Three more AZ blood clot cases - Australia (General)

by dulan drift ⌂, Saturday, April 24, 2021, 07:29 (1096 days ago) @ dan

Yeah that's the unknown - does it make you more vulnerable to blood clots in the future?

Meanwhile, the experts are still spruiking AZ:

Joseph Doyle, infectious diseases specialist, The Alfred in Melbourne: With all vaccines you're balancing the benefits of these really safe and really effective vaccines with the small, but serious chances of side effects. There’s been a really, really rigorous appraisal in Australia about that and to be conservative, they’ve decided that 50 is the age.

If we were in a pandemic situation like almost any other country in the world, then we would be vaccinating people well below 50 because there's more and more benefit. This includes countries in our region such as those currently experiencing very serious outbreaks of COVID-19, such as Timor Leste and Papua New Guinea.

Firstly, most European countries, which are "in a pandemic situation" have banned AZ for under 65's. South Africa, Denmark, and Norway have banned it outright. Secondly, you're only mentioning Timor Leste and Papua New Guinea coz you're frantically trying to dump AZ there disguised as Foreign Aid.

The data shows that AZ is neither "really safe", nor "really effective" - while the "really, really rigorous appraisal" somehow missed the publicly available information from Europe.

Daniel Thomas
, University of Adelaide haematologist and blood researcher: I'm still fully convinced that the vaccine, despite being rushed through and having these unforeseen complications, is already saving the lives of thousands, if not millions.

I'm not. Coz i'm not convinced it works against variants. If it doesn't work against variants it doesn't work against Covid.
ABC: Daniel Thomas said Professor Sutton's comments were right and deep vein thrombosis (DVT) was "common".

Oh, that's a change of tune. Five minutes ago i could have sworn it was "extremely rare"

Prof. Paul Kelly: Well, I think we have to look very carefully at the facts so far. So there is a signal. We have seen these cases that are extremely rare but serious effects following vaccination, particularly in Europe and UK, where they've- millions of doses of AstraZeneca being used. So they're finding .. five per million people getting this issue, and about one in four of those are dying. So, it's a serious effect but extremely rare.


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