Zoonotic Crossover - The Environment (General)
There are three things i care about: - the right to privacy - freedom of speech - the environment. Our celebrity scientists hijacked the last one to get people to give up the first two. I’ve got a great craw - but that was never gonna make it all the way down.
Here’s the argument oft repeated by celebrity scientists (espoused here by Virus Hunter):
32:30 "I think that we’re seeing this (virus outbreaks) much more than we used to and this is the function of many things - deforestation - population migration - international travel - climate change."
Apart from climate change - all of those have been going on since the Stone Age. (edit: including climate change)
Ok, I’ve got a theory - if you flip the script with Lipkin/Daszak speak - you end up closer to the truth. In the spirit of scientific experimentation, let's give it a spin:
32:30 I think that we’re seeing this (virus outbreaks) much more than we used to and this is the function of many things - scientists collecting viruses - scientists meddling with viruses - scientists having accidents with viruses.
"Why do I think things could get worse? If we don’t change the ways in which we interact with our natural environment, we’re going to have this problem continuously."
Why do I think things could get worse? If we don’t change the ways in which scientists interact with our natural environment, we’re going to have this problem continuously.
"We have international trade which means that something that starts in central Africa rapidly spreads around the world - just like this did, right?"
(Ian, memo-to-self, Covid didn’t start in central Africa, right? How about this:)
We have international trade which means that something that starts in Wuhan rapidly spreads around the world - just like this did, right?
"We have people who can no longer 34:16 find protein so they wind up eating wild animals and becoming infected by those animals."
We have scientists who can no longer 34:16 find funding so they wind up trapping wild animals and becoming infected by those animals.
"We have very wealthy people who like to keep exotic pets, which can infect animals as well - so we are a perfect storm for this - we need to change the way we interact with our natural environment." 34:39
We have very wealthy scientists who like to experiment on exotic lab animals, which can infect lab workers as well - so we are a perfect storm for this - we need to change the way scientists interact with our natural environment. 34:39
Complete thread:
- Origin Tracing: How hard can it be? -
dulan drift,
2021-01-08, 07:05
- Origin Tracing: Arthur Koestler -
dulan drift,
2021-01-08, 09:47
- Theory 1 - Natural Origin -
dulan drift,
2021-01-08, 13:15
- Theory 1 - Natural Origin -
dan,
2021-01-10, 07:19
- Theory 1 - Natural Origin -
dulan drift,
2021-01-12, 05:57
- Theory 2 - Lab Origin -
dulan drift,
2021-01-13, 14:44
- Lab Origin - How to Investigate -
dulan drift,
2021-01-14, 17:13
- Intermediate hosts - Civets -
dulan drift,
2021-01-16, 08:14
- 911 and the Rise of the Celebrity Scientists -
dulan drift,
2021-01-17, 12:44
- 911 and the Rise of the Celebrity Scientists -
dan,
2021-01-17, 13:58
- 911 and the Rise of the Celebrity Scientists -
dulan drift,
2021-01-17, 14:44
- Rise of the Celebrity Scientists - Ian Lipkin -
dulan drift,
2021-01-19, 13:51
- Rise of the Celebrity Scientists - Peter Daszak -
dulan drift,
2021-01-20, 13:52
- Zoonotic Crossover - The Environment -
dulan drift,
2021-01-22, 08:06
- Zoonotic Crossover - The Environment -
dan,
2021-01-22, 20:18
- Zoonotic Crossover - The Environment -
dulan drift,
2021-01-23, 08:12
- Did Climate Change cause Covid? -
dulan drift,
2021-01-23, 08:41
- Fear Factor -
dulan drift,
2021-01-26, 15:16
- The Real World -
dulan drift,
2021-01-27, 06:10
- The Real World -
dan,
2021-01-28, 15:26
- The Real World -
dulan drift,
2021-02-07, 12:52
- Zoonotic Crossovers - Daszak's Argument -
dulan drift,
2021-02-07, 13:02
- Therefore -
dulan drift,
2021-02-15, 06:56
- Daszak's Evidence -
dulan drift,
2021-02-15, 08:26
- Conclusion -
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2021-02-17, 08:05
- Conclusion - Part 2 -
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2021-02-17, 08:23
- Taking up the Fight -
dulan drift,
2021-02-18, 07:26
- The Socratic Method -
dulan drift,
2021-02-19, 07:52
- The Origin of Socrates' Unpopularity -
dulan drift,
2021-02-19, 08:01
- The Origin of Socrates' Unpopularity -
dan,
2021-02-19, 14:59
- The Origin of Socrates' Unpopularity -
dulan drift,
2021-02-20, 06:37
- The Origin of Socrates' Unpopularity - dan, 2021-02-21, 16:54
- The Origin of Socrates' Unpopularity -
dulan drift,
2021-02-20, 06:37
- The Origin of Socrates' Unpopularity -
dan,
2021-02-19, 14:59
- The Origin of Socrates' Unpopularity -
dulan drift,
2021-02-19, 08:01
- Taking up the Fight - dan, 2021-02-19, 15:17
- The Socratic Method -
dulan drift,
2021-02-19, 07:52
- Taking up the Fight -
dulan drift,
2021-02-18, 07:26
- Conclusion - Part 2 -
dulan drift,
2021-02-17, 08:23
- Conclusion -
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2021-02-17, 08:05
- Daszak's Evidence -
dulan drift,
2021-02-15, 08:26
- Therefore -
dulan drift,
2021-02-15, 06:56
- Zoonotic Crossovers - Daszak's Argument -
dulan drift,
2021-02-07, 13:02
- The Real World -
dulan drift,
2021-02-07, 12:52
- The Real World -
dan,
2021-01-28, 15:26
- The Real World -
dulan drift,
2021-01-27, 06:10
- Fear Factor -
dulan drift,
2021-01-26, 15:16
- Did Climate Change cause Covid? -
dulan drift,
2021-01-23, 08:41
- Zoonotic Crossover - The Environment -
dulan drift,
2021-01-23, 08:12
- Zoonotic Crossover - The Environment -
dan,
2021-01-22, 20:18
- Zoonotic Crossover - The Environment -
dulan drift,
2021-01-22, 08:06
- Rise of the Celebrity Scientists - Peter Daszak -
dulan drift,
2021-01-20, 13:52
- Rise of the Celebrity Scientists - Ian Lipkin -
dulan drift,
2021-01-19, 13:51
- 911 and the Rise of the Celebrity Scientists -
dulan drift,
2021-01-17, 14:44
- 911 and the Rise of the Celebrity Scientists -
dan,
2021-01-17, 13:58
- 911 and the Rise of the Celebrity Scientists -
dulan drift,
2021-01-17, 12:44
- Intermediate hosts - Civets -
dulan drift,
2021-01-16, 08:14
- Lab Origin - How to Investigate -
dulan drift,
2021-01-14, 17:13
- Theory 2 - Lab Origin -
dulan drift,
2021-01-13, 14:44
- Theory 1 - Natural Origin -
dulan drift,
2021-01-12, 05:57
- Theory 1 - Natural Origin -
dan,
2021-01-10, 07:19
- Theory 1 - Natural Origin -
dulan drift,
2021-01-08, 13:15
- Origin Tracing: Arthur Koestler -
dulan drift,
2021-01-08, 09:47