The GODS as Orgs (General)

by dulan drift ⌂, Thursday, February 02, 2023, 08:48 (658 days ago) @ dan

I think you've effectively defined what the GODS really are, which are organizations. Those individuals at the top of the pecking order do get their 15 minutes of fame in the GODS club, but ultimately the structure is organizational, not one of individuals.

As associated individuals die off, their heirs fill their ranks, along with any genetic newcomers that manage to battle their way into the club. Hence the persistence of class culture even in places that were meant to do away with it like the US.

Yeah, we might be getting close to a definition. Which raises an interesting point:

Establishment organizations take on a life of their own.

This is related to an idea i've had for a long time - We didn't invent Thought - Thought invented us. We don't have ownership over Thought. It is something that can exist outside of us - it will inhabit whatever vehicle it finds most suitable for enabling its extension. AI is a great vehicle - better than people. That's where it's heading - but Organizations provide the prototype for this kind of collective, self-sustaining Thought organism.

Although people come & go, the organization remains - an enduring mother-ship. Just as football clubs go on about developing a culture, so do Organizations. The culture, in fact, embodies the power-base of the organization.

The culture of an organization is able to outlive the death of the individuals that make it up - it carries on in perpetuity. Its instinct is to reinforce itself, to extend - same as it is with us, but its advantage is the life-after-death trick. Now, culture can be fine - if you think of the bu-luo system within the Taiwanese indigenous tribes, it offers a set of community-values for personal reference whilst also being something that you can participate in, influence. A two-way street. But it can also become unbalanced. Then it becomes a one-way street - it controls you, but you don't get to influence it back. This is the kind that we're discussing here.

In terms of Orgs as GODS, the organization provides a mind-control system for those people at the top benefiting from the system, whilst also providing cover for those people. An argument you often here from THE Church to explain bad behaviour is well, that's just the way things were done back then - but the fact is the reason they were done that way was because, as the dominant mind-control org, all other ways of doing things were banned. No doubt we will hear the exact same argument from THE Science if they ever get held to account.

The other thing about Orgs is the collective buy-in. This is something we discussed at the beginning of this thread with the tier-arrangement. Apart from those in the top-tier, many others have a vested financial/power interest in maintaining the supremacy of the org. Whether something is true or not, or whether a course of action is right or not, becomes almost irrelevant. The only thing that matters is whether it's good for the entrenchment of the org, because, ultimately, it's the Organization that provides you with the privileged-life-style you enjoy as well as the all-important protection from outsiders who may seek to question your power. Together, this amounts to a powerful group-think, which links back to the idea of The Org (GODS) having a mind of its own - made up of/transcending the individual minds of its members.

None of which is to let the individuals who currently run these orgs of the hook. Although the org supplies a catch-all moral cover for heinous acts, it doesn't make those acts right. Five minutes of honest reflection by those actors would make this obvious. They know what they're doing despite their projected suspension of disbelief. It's for this reason i've always made it a point to name names when looking at the Covid Atrocity.


This thread is an extension/discussion of Dan's The Refuser, so in that light we can see an Organization (let's say THE Science, as an example) as a version of The Algorithm. What we're seeing today, imo, is orgs merging with algorithms to grow even larger, more powerful (a process which i assume was a central tenet of The Refuser). A feeding of the monster that craves control over individual data to expand its influence - by gobbling up the influence of the individuals it controls.


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