we could not accept that they get their hands on the president's DNA

Seems the elites don't mind nefarious forces getting their hands on regular people's DNA, but not their own.

Whatever, it shows PCR tests can be used as DNA harvesting exercises.

Hong Kong to test entire population for COVID after Xi's order

Xinjiang being the home of the Uyghurs.

Oxford/Cams/BRI: In September 2015, Professor Tao Dong (and) Professor Sir Andrew McMichael .. from the Nuffield Department of Medicine travelled to Urumqi and Kashgai as part of the One Road, One Belt Initiative.

Someone get Clive Hamilton on the phone! He knows a thing or two about major institutions signing Belt & Road MOU’s.

Oxford/Cams/BRI: They represented the department at the Silk Road Cancer Immunology International Symposium Series.

Again - modern immunology is genomics. The Oxford collaborations are framed as curing cancer - but for a regime that forcibly sterilizes humans - because of their ethnicity - to cull their gene pool - genomics technology has other attractive bio-marker applications.

Oxford/Cams/BRI: Since then over £3M has been generated to establish a joint immunology lab (genomic profiling lab), with a MOU signed in 2015 between the Nuffield Department of Medicine and Xinjiang Medical University.
(my bracks)

Another MOU. That’s a lot of Understanding between a totalitarian regime and Oxford. This Understanding with Xinjiang Medical University is more special - it links to genomic surveillance of Uyghurs.
Xinjiang Medical University: The national physical examination (NPE) is a free physical examination provided by the Chinese government for all Xinjiang people.

(Download the app for entry into the Free society of the New Era. The Un-Free physically examined - please report to your nearest vocational training centre.)

Xinjiang Medical University: The data came from the physical examination data of Urumqi in 2018. .. This study was performed in accordance with .. the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region CDC ethical committee.

As an oxymoron, that’s hard to beat.

Radio Free Asia: A hospital for infectious diseases in Aksu (in Chinese, Akesu), in northwest China’s Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region (XUAR), has been turned into an internment camp as part of what some experts believe could be a system for harvesting organs from detainees.

Last week, Omar Bahtiyar Omar (director Norway-based Uyghur Transitional Justice Database) pointed out imagery that showed a large cemetery located within a kilometer of the two camps .. which was later confirmed by RFA to be a crematorium built in 2017.

Additionally, a “green corridor” was built at the same time for the expedited transport of human organs. Xinjiang Medical University's organ transplant team was assigned to transport organs from the airport to the regional capital Urumqi on China Southern Airlines flight 6431 and completed seven trips in 2017.

So; the construction of a 3-in-1 facility for processing Uyghurs:

vocational training camp → organ harvesting hospital → crematorium.

Your one-stop Uhghur-organ gift-shop. Including Halal organs for wealthy Saudis - allegedly.

With Xinjiang Medical University, Oxford’s genomics collaborating partner since 2008, handling the clinical translation part.

Ethan Gutmann (author of The Slaughter): You extract the organs from the living human being, you let them die. The organs are strapped to this machine, this rather smallish machine, that's sitting there oxygenating them … Then the organs can have 20 hours of life, maybe 24 hours of life. So that's enough time to get [an organ] to the airport to fly it over to the east coast of China.

Oxford/Cams/BRI: In early 2018, a National Centre for International Collaboration with Oxford .. put us in a strong position to conduct world class medical research.. in Xinjiang. (This) will enable us to directly translate our research from the bench to clinic. (and vice versa)

Hmm, best laid plans of Mice & Men moment - Formosahut doesn't support tables.

Best way to deal with that is to open your table in your browser, a doc, whatever, and take a screenshot of it, then upload as a graphic. There are a bunch of free screenshot tools that allow you to capture a specific section.

But CAMS/Oxford is not only about money - it’s an executive power collaboration. Master of the Universe level.

CAMS/Oxford: The CAMS-Oxford International Centre for Translational Immunology is a joint venture between the Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences (CAMS), China Centre for Disease Control (China CDC), Beijing's You'an Hospital (You'an), the University of Oxford's Human Immunology Unit (HIU), and the Nuffield Department of Medicine (NDM).

(Founded in April 2013, one of the) three main themes underpin(ing) our human immunology research programmes (is):

i) analysis of the interplay between adaptive and innate immune responses to optimize vaccination strategies

Before Covid i would’ve read that - said - oh - that sounds good.
Now it fills me with unease. Motive looms into my thoughts.

These .. objectives will be underpinned (the underpin of the underpinings) by the development of a joint translational programme, to carry out hypothesis driven clinical trials.

First time i read translational program i wasn’t sure what it meant. That was dumb - coz it’s obvious. It translates entitled scientist thought bubbles in the lab to: field operations.

Especially in Xinjiang - and Africa. To save them of course.

This translation activity seems to be the special skill-set of George & Jeremy. They come as a team. In the One Health universe, which excludes all others (such as Taiwan) - they are the translational specialists you need to go through to get things done.

CAMS/Oxford: The centre is founded on several long-standing collaborative relationships initiated by Prof Tao Dong (Oxford) .. with support from .. Professor Sir Andrew McMichael and Professor Vincenzo Cerudolo.

(Few more names for the memory bank.)

Significant contributions to .. programmatic support have been provided by many sponsors including the National Science Foundation China (NSFC), the Chinese Ministry for Science and Technology, and You'an Hospital.

In April 2013 Professor Hamilton (Oxford) visited Beijing to sign the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) establishing the CTI with Professor Cao Xuetao - President of the Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences. On behalf of the University of Oxford, Mr Darren Nash - Associate Head of the Nuffield Department of Medicine (Academic Support and Finance), also signed an MOU.

Tried searching the details of those MOU’s - they don’t appear to be public. We can assume they were typical of other MOU’s with CCP institutions such as this one signed by Dan Andrews. It’s all about:

cooperation for mutual benefits in a new era with a common future to jointly combat global challenges (such as the Uyghurs - we’ll get there in a minute)

The Oxford/CAMS one, though has special focus on:

interdisciplinary research in bio-medical sciences, including big-data application in biomedical research, bioinformatics .. and so on.

So it’s about big-data sharing with a totalitarian surveillance-state.

CAMS/Oxford: With the institute’s talent cultivation and acquisition model, scientists will be able to have positions (in China) and they could enjoy the resources provided by both Oxford and CAMS. (my brackets)

Farrar was communicating with Gao in the nascent stages of Covid. Whatever Gao knew, which was everything there was to know - he - potentially - told Farrar. Below is a reference table showing their entwined career paths with Oxford/Wellcome - take a glance as you scroll through it to the discussion below. (Eddie slips his way in there somehow - like a star footballer - you can’t keep out of the game)

Hmm, best laid plans of Mice & Men moment - Formosahut doesn't support tables.

No matter - here's the open access Google Docs link for the whole thread.

Use topic side-bar to scroll to George & Jeremy to find the table. Note it's not there yet - will be tomorrow.

* George & Jeremy have collaborated on papers - but that’s unremarkable given they’ve both racked up 500+. (The other downstream feeder cliques (e.g. Ian Pete Ralph) are forever collaborating.) The 500+ figure is the more informative one - between the two of them, is there anyone in the One Health Community they haven’t collabed with?

The above table establishes the depth of their professional cross-over - stretching back decades. This is relevant because these two friends were at the apex of the Covid cover-up strategy. We know there was high-level coordination between the CCP/Western scientists sides - Lipkin blabbed about that when he was high on Hydroxy - it seems likely this coordination was directed by George & Jeremy. They took an incredible risk to pedal the lie of the century - it was important to know they had each other’s backs.

It’s also important to register that it wasn’t a pair of rogue individuals acting alone - they both had immensely powerful institutional backing - particularly from Wellcome/Oxford and Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences (CAMS). Next, I want to take a closer look at this shady alliance.

Have got your tin foil hat on , Because 5G is working good to see your taking your Medication.

Adjust your tin foil hat a little. Remember, by responding you are drawing attention to this thread.

The same way everything-you-need-to-know about existence is in the Adam & Eve myth (and other creation myths) - everything you need to know about Sir Jeremy is in your choice of Brutus quote from Julius Caesar - which coincidentally - was the most famous Conspiracy of all time:

We at the height are ready to decline (due to anti-globalist/scientist sentiment)
There is a tide in the affairs of men
which taken at the flood, leads on to fortune (Covid is the flood - vaccines/total control are the fortunes)

Omitted, all the voyage of their life
is bound in shallows and in miseries
(Poor Sir Jeremy - stuck in a bloody Oxford migraine clinic)

On such a full sea are we now afloat (Covid)
And we must take the current (of public opinion - manipulated by Covid) when it serves (the purpose of justifying a One-Everything surveillance state)

or lose our ventures

So what did you choose Sir Jeremy?

If Shakespeare was alive today - he’d be writing about you. He’d see all the ingredients he loved: ambition - ability - idealism - fame - marred by arrogance/over-reach - causing mis-guidedness - deals with the darkside - a mis-reading of the signs - resulting in:

un-redoable tragedy.

Where ‘all the world’s a stage’.

The tragedy of Brutus is that he broke the golden rule of the Senate - ‘no violence in the Senate’. Even Julius Caesar had abided by it. It set off a chain-of-events that achieved the opposite of what Brutus had hoped for.

The difference between you and Brutus though is that while Brutus stabbed Julius Caesar to save democracy - you knifed democracy to save Totalitarianism.

But you both did what you thought was right.

The problem with killing off democracy, Jeremy, is humanity has only invented two systems of government - well one actually - the first one - totalitarianism - was our default position.

Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar deals with the loss of democracy.

It took another 1500 years to get it back. Humans ain't got 1500 years as a primary intelligence life-force on earth. We lose our freedoms now they’re gone forever.

Sir Jeremy, you will go down in history as a true immortal: Captain of the Covid Conspiracy.

The good news is: you still have a chance to make a positive, lasting impact on humanity. You only need to choose the right Box: A, B, or C?

Spoiler: Box A: Mass-murdering atrocity villain that history will never forget or forgive.

Box B: We get away with it - steamroll on - crush the opposition - that's why they call it power. Fuck Democracy! Totalitarianism Rules! Yeah! (See why you went for that in the beginning - but it is looking shakier n shakier)

Box C: Come clean.

If not now, when…? If not us, whom…?

This mad head-long rush to One-Everything is wrong. It’s dangerous. Tell people you now know that from the inside - you fucked up - you thought it was for the best - realised it wasn’t. You can still help right the ship of humanity on this ‘rising tide’ of opportunity.

Then history will afford you that dynamic space - that Brutus inhabits - between good intentions and disastrous results. A person torn by conscience at least.

Redemption is real. It’s why Jesus was so popular. Society vilifies/condemns - he was offering a different understanding/resolution. You feel like you’re in this irredeemable, collapsing black-hole - you are - but there is a way out.

You won’t be a hero - but you could still be a Brutus - a textbook cautionary tale for future generations. There’s honour in that - it's a kinda pantheon - if you repent.

Don’t wait too long: ‘the tide in the affairs of men’ is changing.

(Not The End)

Note: the above is a final roundup of deductions based on already referenced material - so haven't re-reffed it, except for the NIH/Wellcome-Baric funding. Also the weird advice given in the early days - coz it was so weird/counter-productive - i'm worried people still won't believe it.

First principle of Covid: ‘no evidence’ - is a kind of evidence. It’s evidence that the truth is being concealed. We have to keep remembering - for us it’s a big mystery - but it’s not for the ‘actors’.

So what do we know about the politics of your typical National Security Organization? This is an exercise in stating the obvious - but hopefully worth it:

• It’s a public service career job. They are un-elected. They watch politicians ‘cycle’ through. (Robert Mueller the 3rd’s reign, for example, ran since he was appointed head of the FBI in July 2001.)
  
• Pay is good. Great at the top. Massive budget. This money comes from our taxes.
  
• It’s mission is to guard National Security - identify/combat threats - to maintain/expand the established power structure - the Order.
  
• It’s an international network of spies.
  
• It is predisposed to international data collection, centralization and surveillance.
  
• It’s powerful.
  
• It requires alliances with powerful international monied organizations - private and government, including bio-defense/weapons research organizations - whilst keeping tabs on/back-channeling with the rest.
  
• It’s global by nature.
  
• National Security/Order entails a concept of the ‘common-good’. It’s actors are dedicated to uphold that.
  
• It can’t divulge details of its operations to protect this common-good - or even define what the 'common-good' means - due to National Security.

This last one is the fundamental Catch-22 politics that lies at the heart of every National Security organization:

We are empowered to act covertly to secure the ‘common-good’.

FAQ:
This section has been closed due to the common good. Thank you.

That’s a guaranteed recipe for corruption. It’s unaccountable surveillance power politics - gone mad. Got a rocket launch with 911 - a booster with SARS - then a super-booster shot with Covid. Several of our Celebrity Actors have risen to fame on those events - are still calling the shots today.

Suddenly our lives are governed by global security operations. People are fined, jailed, ostracized, vilified for non-compliance. There has been a melding of security organizations and powerful science bodies such as Wellcome - joined at the hip by their concept of Oneness.

We know it’s all due to Covid - but we’re not allowed to know what Covid was due to? Why? Due to security restrictions - due to Covid.

So here’s the question:

What happens if those at the top of these organizations come to the conclusion that totalitarianism really is the best system of government - in a global world - for the common good? To save the planet from the perils of democratic anti-globalist/anti-the science populism ... ? Or the ‘existential threat’ of Climate Change … ?

If all of that is at stake (in your head) - are you not the world leaders charged with protecting us? Saving the planet? Do you not have a sacred duty to do whatever it takes?

If not now, when…? If not us, whom…?

The point is: the politics of security organizations exists. It’s active, has goals, is global, forms alliances with like-minded powers, including organizations like Wellcome - more specifically the leaders of these forces.

We've discussed the influence of the United Front Work Department - the tendency is to think all these academics/power elites were hood-winked by the Chinese - but it’s more a meeting-of-minds. The Big Boys making Big Decisions. With a One-Everything ideological overlap.

2015 - that’s two years after you, Sir Jeremy, took over as Director. You were, of course, appointed by the board of governors, on which Eliza was a key figure. Hopefully the open recruitment process was more open than your inquiry into bullying under yours and Manningham-Buller’s watch at Wellcome Trust? Or similar? Forget about that - so what made you go for the Baroness?

Wellcome: Between 2002 and 2007, Eliza Manningham-Buller was Director-General of the UK Security Service (MI5), and led the service through significant change.

Oh. So the UK’s top spy takes over at Wellcome. Maybe the idea that Wellcome is an intelligence gathering organization is not so fanciful after all...

Baroness Manningham-Buller: I am excited by the prospect of working even more closely with the Trust’s director, Jeremy Farrar .. to plan an even more ambitious future for our work.

It’s this ‘even more ambitious future for our work’ that worries me. What the heck are you guys up to?

Some people reading this will be thinking ‘Well, he had a couple of good points in the beginning - but now he’s totally lost the plot’.

But let's take a look anyway ...

Wellcome:

• has operations in over 100 countries
  
• collects and centralizes data/intelligence
  
• vigorously prosecutes a globalization agenda
  
• promotes/employs bio-surveillance technology
  
• funds dual-purpose defense/weapons technologies including genomics and AI

In many Asian, African, and South American countries, Wellcome (and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation) would represent the main foreign organizations on the ground. If you are a spy, you don’t just rock up and start spying - you need some sort of cover-occupation. Theoretically at least, Wellcome would make an excellent vehicle for spies in terms of its international penetration as well as its massive resources.

Also, it wouldn’t be the first time that an international charity has been involved in espionage:

Intercept (2015): (A)s Christian Hiramine crossed the stage to shake hands with President Bush and receive his award, he was hiding a key fact from those in attendance: He was a Pentagon spy whose NGO was funded through a highly classified Defense Department program. The secret Pentagon program, which dates back to December 2004, continued well into the Obama presidency. It was the brainchild of a senior Defense Department intelligence official of the Bush administration, Lt. Gen. William “Jerry” Boykin .. (who) settled on the ruse of the NGO as he was seeking new and unorthodox ways to penetrate North Korea.

But the skeptic would say: Wellcome is run by a collection of distinguished, high-minded scientists. How would you ever convince them to become a spy-front? It’s absurd.

Turns out that’s probably the easiest part.

You [00:10:47]: He (Eric Farrar) was part of the British Expeditionary Force that went to fight in Europe in 1939 and was captured just outside Dunkirk in the spring of 1940 and was a prisoner of war in a German prison camp until the end of the war in 1945. And he came back to Britain then, hadn't been able to go to university. And he was given a lift (to a) debriefing because I think he’d escaped from prisoner of war camp or something.

It’s a little surprising you’re not sure about whether he’d escaped or not - but it’s normal that people don’t like to talk about trauma - so maybe he never really discussed it with you.

[00:11:16]: And my mother had been a driver during the war. She had driven these huge American people, carriers (sic) (from the transcript of the podcast - listening to it later, i realized she was driving 'huge American people-carriers' not 'huge American people') from the ports in Scotland down to the south coast in 1943 and 1944, preparing for the invasion of Europe and VE Day. She was driving my father for some debriefing. He was an enlisted soldier. He wasn't an officer, but he had some information about the prisoner of war camps in Germany. (Which is how they met.)

Although officers were not required to work, he was an enlisted soldier, so that means five years hard labour in the camp on low food rations - with the constant threat of punishment or even execution. That will break a man down. If he did escape and was then recaptured, they would have made life doubly-hard. That’s a lot of trauma - which of course comes fully-franked with PTSD for life.

After the war, Eric and your mother began the next stage of their lives as “itinerants … travelling around the world for many, many years.”

Now PTSD would explain that, or even a natural high dose of wanderlust, though with a family of six children, it’s a big deal to relocate so many times.

Also the countries that he chose - Singapore, Yemen, Egypt, Cyprus, Libya - it does seem plausible he was working as an intelligence gathering agent for the British military - and went wherever he was deployed.

Of course, i don’t know for sure - only wondering how he managed to send his kids, or you at least, to a very posh school in England, Churcher’s College?Hard to see how you'd be able to afford that on a humble English teacher’s wage.

I’m also still curious as to how the heck you got into University College London - and then Oxford? Don’t quite buy that door-knocking story and the chance meeting with Robin Forrest. You did mention that ‘people had been written to’. If your father, or another relative(?) had some clout in the UK intelligence world, then maybe that was enough to do the trick?

Finally there’s your affinity with the ‘deep-state’ movers and shakers. For someone who was born and raised in a world of international intelligence gathering, a closed-circle power cohort with a globalized agenda would seem normal.

At the end of the day, it’s interesting, but not important. You definitely made your own mark, regardless of your upbringing. The consequences of your actions are yours to own - not your father’s.

• How did a lager lout teenager who twice fell short on his A-levels come to rise to such power?
  To know that we need to know:
  
• Who or What shaped this man who is changing-the-world?

We've looked at your schooling, Vietnam, but not your parents - the "peripatetic childhood".
As you say: Inevitably it has a big influence, I think, on the way you see things and your approach to the world.

You were born in Singapore in 1961. The usual media intro is: “His father was an English teacher .. who moved his family often. The family lived in Yemen, Egypt, Cyprus, New Zealand (6-months - hated it), and Libya, among other countries. Farrar, the youngest of six, came along after Yemen and Egypt. ” (my brackets)

At the NIH lecture you list the countries of your childhood as: Singapore, Malaysia, Aden in Yemen, Cyprus, New Zealand, and Libya (7 years).

That’s since you were born. The last of six children. It's an interesting array of countries, Jeremy - for an English teacher.

I’ve gotta ask the obvious question:
Was Dad a spy?

There are other possible explanations, which we’ll explore, but it'd make sense if he was - your deep affiliation with the world of underlying forces from a formative age - your obsession with global politics ...

Next question would be:
Are you a spy?

The question after that would be:
Is Wellcome one large spy organization?

Last question:
Which side are you on exactly? Totalitarianism or Freedom?

Final Last question:
What even is the politics of your average spy organization?

As you say, through SARS, you "got to know China’s CDC very well” - you count George Gao, the head of China’s CDC, as an "old friend".

By 2014 you were praising China as “transparent and superb” - which is weird language to describe a health regime that was simultaneously involved in the systemic organ-harvesting of Falun Gong prisoners of conscience.

But you were “very, very happy”(?) to turn a blind-eye to that.

Because if you did, you were allowed a seat amongst the power-elites of totalitarian countries. Where big picture stuff can/does happen.

In the clinic - you felt too 'downstream' - dealing with patients who are the results of something else - you felt helpless - you watched a colleague/friend die from SARS.

[00:07:24]
...you can (only) do so much as a doctor or a nurse. It makes you question your whole professionalism. It makes you question why you're there and why you're in the hospital looking after people.

You needed to get upstream - with the big boys - where things do happen. That first exercise of 'real' power was an adrenaline rush - instantly addictive - you revel in the surge of this “incredibly strong central CDC in China”. Reaffirmed in your mind: centralized government gets shit done. It’s a constant theme in your speeches. As you nsay with Singapore: (TS 10:20) “You may or may not like the political system - but never-the-less - enormous progress over time.”

From SARS the key lesson you learned is: in a crisis, act fast - “don’t wait for the data”. That’s quite radical for a scientist - and you have been criticized before for launching risky vaccination programs in Africa, Before Covid, without supporting data.

Jeremy, this is speculation, might be rubbish, but i don’t think the nitty-gritty of data and science is your bag - you’d rather talk about cricket? Or big-power - the overarching politics of science - how to get societies to accept our entrenchment as the authority-on-everything. In that quest you are the chosen one. The brilliant general in the War on Freedom.

The goal in this war, as you say, is to “change the fundamentals ... through locking-down and behaviour change and .. particularly vaccines” - all geared towards making individuals subservient to the state. This requires the impost of ‘draconian/new normal’ rules - best enforced by a centralized 'system of government'.

The paradox, as you impressed upon the DI interviewer, is that for those orchestrating the above “… there are no rules - there are no textbooks to follow here - these are judgment calls made in the very best faith.”

That’s the thing about totalitarianism - yes it has its dark-side - but it offers “such hope” for what can be achieved in the One Health sphere - by virtue of this paradoxical dynamic: enforcement of rules - by a benevolent, ‘free’ overlord - unencumbered by rules. It’s just more effective like that. (Ask the experts if you don't believe me.)

In Vietnam, your mind - from a place of intense individuality - solidified ideas of the ‘global-good’. Calculated how best to manifest them.

Totalitarianism made sense - the best system to institute your ambitious plan to 'change the fundamentals'.

Reminds me a little of Julius Caesar - another man with a strong sense of individual destiny who realized early he needed a base of monied, militaried forces - to change-the-world.

Meanwhile, Vietnamese people are spiritual, resilient, funny, respectful, artistic, brave, community-based. Plus the food is great - and it’s geographically beautiful.

Hard not to like that. But it’s not just the Vietnamese people you rave about - you especially lavish praise on the ”remarkable” achievements of Vietnam’s political system, saying it “offers such hope of where a country can develop and change, and embrace the modern world.”

But hang on, Jeremy, Vietnam is, after all, a totalitarian regime. I found this, actually ‘found’ is too fancy, it was the first entry on the search page for 'Vietnam political persecution’. It’s a World Report on Human Rights in Vietnam (there’s a lot of similar reports). It seems at odds with your impression:

World Report: Those who criticize the one party regime face police intimidation, harassment, restricted movement, physical assault, detention, and arrest and imprisonment. Police detain political detainees for months without access to legal counsel and subject them to abusive interrogations.

Pretty sure you’d be safe though, right? In fact they awarded you two medals of honour - the same number Lipkin received from the CCP.

Interestingly, the 2nd listing on the search page, the Amnesty site, also documents “punishment for distributing “disinformation” on the pandemic” , including the censorship of anyone questioning the official origin and/or draconian lockdowns (with the help of Facebook of course.)

As someone who is big on lockdowns and censoring origin talk, i can see how you would love that - how you would enthuse that the Vietnam regime “offers such hope of where a country can develop and change, and embrace the modern world” without being slowed down by accountability.

Yeah - no. I'd still rather Taiwan as a symbol of ‘hope for embracing the modern world’ - it’s a free country for a start.

But Taiwan’s not your favourite topic is it? I know that coz i tried searching ‘Jeremy Farrar Taiwan’ - Captain Covid, architect of the world’s Covid response/cover-up(?) - and - Taiwan - the country that was by far the most successful in the world at containing it - without draconian lockdowns. Surely there would be some cross-over mention…?

But nothing. Nada. That simple word, ‘Taiwan’ has never left your lips in public.

Why is that, Jeremy?

As a world health expert - could you not bring yourself to ‘take the politics out’ for five minutes? To analyse whether the world had/has something to learn from Taiwan’s investigation of the origin of Covid - it’s exemplary handling/control of the disease? What happened to the 'common-good'?

Sorry, those are rhetorical questions. We both know why. Idealistically, you prefer totalitarianism (with yourself near the apex) - one planet and all that. A democracy like Taiwan where people are still allowed to question you, is only going to mess that up.

You strike me as an idealist - who genuinely cares about ‘the poor people in Africa’ - it’s not merely a line - like it is for the others.

My feeling is it has something to do with your time in Vietnam?

You moved there in 1996, aged 35. (I went to Taiwan in 1996 aged 33! Though not to fill an Oxford position, i admit.) So what prompted the move?

Francis Collins,(ts3:30): (You) describe(d) this experience of addressing a conference of neurologists and looking over at a ‘sea of white men’ and thinking ‘I can not spend my life with these people’.

(Ironically 25 years later, you organized the Feb 1 Teleconference with - not a sea of white men as such - more a refined pool of them.)

Here you were at 34, up on stage, the guy who fell short on his A-levels, twice, rejected by all of them - now headlining Oxford conferences - looking out condescendingly over a ‘sea of white men’ - hearing yourself speak in that out-of-body way - hearing them still laugh at your jokes - but taking no pleasure in that.

You were younger, street-smarter, more energetic than them. Brash, idealistic by nature - but not yet sure about what.

The cushy conference scene though - you knew already - 'the answer sure ain't there'. It was not the ‘real’ world. (Technically, everything is the 'real' world - even academic cliques.)

At that time, is it fair to say you were driven by twin, conflictive impulses:

• gnawing need to authenticate yourself - sense of the imposter (the A-level nightmares?)
  
• reservoir feeling that you are special - you were meant for greater things...

After the conference you went to the coffee room for the usual chitchat - overheard someone (do your remember whom?) talking about a gig in Vietnam?

You: Actually it wasn’t in the coffee room, it was actually in the bar, where still things do happen (laughter).

Sorry, my mistake. Bloody Francis Collins - unreliable as usual. So he says you ‘overheard’ a conversation - is that right - or did they approach you?

Uhr, uhm - and they were looking for a director (at Oxford pay, clears throat) of what was then a nascent program (11:21) in Vietnam, Ho Chi Mihn city, in Vietnam, in 1995.

Oh - so it was more of a head-hunting thing? Do you happen to remember ‘they’s’ name(s)? The recruiters? Or is that classified?

Anyway, piqued your curiosity. A few beers later you were in. As you say, things still do happen in bars - Oxford bars at least.

So in 1996 you moved there . Thought ‘a few years tops’ (me too with Taiwan, initially) - then succumb to normalcy by going ... “back to a migraine clinic in Oxford or Edinburgh" (not me too).

In fact stayed 18 very, very happy years living in what is a remarkable country.

Me, a little longer. Very very happy years? - constant very, very happiness is not my metric for weighing existence, but there is a life-affirming spirit in Taiwan that i'll always be grateful for. It's a place where you're allowed to be. Don't get automatically locked up for that. So yeah, also "remarkable country" - especially in today's War on Freedom climate.

The ‘freedom’ from the ‘scientific herd' that the Vietnam anti-freedom system afforded, better suited your restless dreams … while being on the frontline of SARS fed your dare-devil adventurousness.

The chance to co-ordinate with centralized political power holders - to orchestrate operations - for the 'common-good' - that was the clincher though.

Interestingly, 40 years later, you still have nightmares about those exams:

Desert Islands [00:14:25]
I used to wake up with nightmares thinking 'I've got to do my bloody A-levels again' - for years! Uhmm, so it's only in the last year or two I've gotten over that, actually. It's amazing the scars.

Yeah, amazing. So how did you get in?

You got proactive - you went up to stay with your big sister, a nurse in London, to "knock on doors" of all the unis. Still, most of them brushed you off:

Desert Island Discs [00:15:09] I went round all of them and they all said, no, of course, because the world doesn't work like that. Except one. And a character called Robin Forrest who is still alive and still well and still in contact with, opened the door and said, oh, you must be here for the interviews.

So the world does, or doesn't work like that? Or it does and it doesn't?

And I said, making it up, ‘Yeah, actually, I am.’ And obviously people have been written to and I got a place at medical school and I'm eternally grateful.

I'm less eternally grateful, Jeremy, but that's just me - Robin Forrest - your door-opener - i’m guessing it’s this one?

Robin Forrest: Visiting Expert at the Beijing Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, visiting Scientist at Xerox PARC, Honorary Professor of Shandong University, Consultant for General Motors, Boeing, Lockheed, Xerox, Digital, Apple, Philips, Adobe, Rolls-Royce, worked for the defense in various patent cases concerning computer painting systems.

Also wondering was your father, Eric, one of those who helped with ‘the people having been written to’ part? Doesn’t matter, i don’t doubt you’ve got talent. Charm has always been your strong suit - i see how you could have done it. The cocky, quick-witted 19 year-old - with the exotic upbringing - rocking up at universities trying to talk his way in.

Anyway, the important part is you got your foot in the door of academia - the rest being history.

Firstly, i don’t think you’re evil. You did what you thought was right. Let’s say: ‘You knew not what you were doing - but you thought you knew.’

Your life is very interesting. It’s a novel - or a play maybe. By the time you sat your A-levels in the UK, you’d lived in Singapore, Malaysia, Egypt, Yemen, NZ (for 6 months - hated it), and then 7-years in Libya (loved it).

You failed those A-levels - your first and last experience of serious failure - until Covid? It was understandable given your “peripatetic childhood” - though it looks like you attended Churcher’s College in the UK from at least the age of 15 in 1977. Doesn’t appear to be a boarding school - so you stayed with relatives? At that time your father was an English teacher in Tripoli as i recall.

You were a teenager - probably had some rebellious stuff with the peripatetics going on - it’d be normal - i would. To your credit, you didn’t give disjointedness as an excuse for flunking. Said you were good at sport - like your father was - said you focussed too much on it.

You were good - both cricket and rugby - made the Churcher’s First XV in Rugby in 1978-79 - and it wasn’t just any old season either:

Churcher’s Hill Annual (PDF): This season will be remembered for, arguably, the best 1st XV Churcher's has produced in its fifty year rugby history.

Whoa! Best team ever! In fact the Churchers won 10 games out of 12. As a champion schoolboy team you toured France. After being moved on by the gendarmes for conducting practice under the Eiffel Tower, part of the group went to visit a museum, while:

...the more sophisticated minority occupied the Left Bank and lunched on wine, cheese, wine, pate, wine, bread and wine, to the evident bewilderment of the Parisien spectators.

Sir Jeremy, sorry to out you, but you were among this group of teenage piss-heads.

The afternoon was spent defending the Parisien public from Tim "baguette" Easlick's sly attacks and bestowing some English Christmas spirit (in the form of an enthusiastic rendition of "O Come All Ye Faithful") upon a crowd of French students chanting "Assassins!" outside the police H.Q. .. Celebrations back at the hotel continued until 3 a.m.

Big night!

Wed 20th: A morning expedition substantiated that Lawrence Fiddler was still alive and meanwhile Jeremy Farrar was sent home with alcohol poisoning.

Yep - you could fail your A-levels by being a binge-drinking lout at 17.

Churcher’s College is a pretty good school though! According to Wikipedia, it’s got four alumni from around your time who you’d say are/were modern day movers and shakers.

• Howard Drake (aged 65) OBE, High Commissioner to Jamaica from 2010 to 2013, and Ambassador to Chile from 2005 to 2009 High Commissioner to Canada from 2013 to 2017. Retired
  
• Rear Adm Philip Mathias (in his 60’s) MBE, Director since 2010 of the Strategic Defence and Security Review (Nuclear), and President in 2004 of the Admiralty Interview Board
  
• Dr Richard Dyer (in his 60’s) OBE, Chief Executive from 2006-9 of the Biosciences Federation, and Director from 1994-2005 of the Babraham Institute
  
  Then there’s you of course - the brightest star:
  
  
• Sir Jeremy Farrar (aged 60) Professor of Tropical Medicine, University of Oxford, Director of the Wellcome Trust, Director of the Covid Conspirators (?)

To properly investigate the origin of Covid, our scientists must be interviewed, in depth. The whole ‘good cop - bad cop’ routine - lie detectors - immunity/witness protection for the first one to come clean. Throw in deluxe-suite plastic surgery that will make you unrecognizable - only available for the first caller in the next 10 minutes.

Pete & Ralph would be racing to dial.

Science plays a part in determining the origin - but Covid is a criminal case - it can best be solved with an overarching criminal investigation. Bring on the detectives.

"...but Covid is a criminal case.." And that is exactly what those responsible, those you have already identified, will do anything to avoid, including throwing the scientific method into the waste bin.