No Freewill (General)

by dan, (11 days ago) @ dan

Yes! That really is a much better way of asking the question I just posted. What is the force?

Just spitballing here, but one thing that comes to mind is the ability to lie, combined with the usual suspects of greed and fear.

But if we assumed, as a species, we're greedy and fearful (which sort of go hand in hand), then the ability to hide the truth becomes quite powerful.

It's all very much Adam and Eve type stuff.

On the other hand, I'm reading a book entitled 'The Dawn of Everything, A New History of Humanity' in which the authors, David Graeber and David Wengrow, explore, well, everything, and I'm only halfway through it (great for inducing a nap after lunch), but one rabbit hole they go down is the question of why did modern states arise? Why do they exist? Because, they argue, in spite of what we're taught, human evolution, particularly with regards to socialization and politics, does not follow some Darwinian path from hunter and gatherer to learning agriculture to increased social complexity requiring the modern state. No. They provide evidence that we have known many other systems.

So we look for efficiency in our understanding of the past, and in so doing, maybe we over simplify. We'll never really know, of course, but the point is that they propose that human evolution has involved a variety of social structures, and not some linear progression as we're told.

So, perhaps the answer to your question answers this question -- why have we now found ourselves in this current form of social organization even though we do know how to have alternate forms?


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