Vaccine Data War 2021 - AstraZeneca Useless against Variants

(continuation from here: http://formosahut.com/forum/index.php?id=2549)

As you note, Covid vaccines are on this same path. When you filter through all the triumphant drug propaganda you get to this:

"The Oxford/AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine does not appear to offer protection against mild and moderate disease caused by the viral variant first identified in South Africa, according to a study due to be published on Monday.

In both the human trials and tests on the blood of those vaccinated, the jab showed significantly reduced efficacy against the 501Y.V2 viral variant, which is dominant in South Africa, according to the randomised, double-blind study."

"Nineteen of the 748 people in the group that was given the vaccine were infected with the new variant, compared with 20 out of 714 people in the group that was given a placebo."

We deduced as such from the equivocating language used for several weeks regarding effectiveness against variants - now it's finally being admitted...

"Shortly after South Africa received one million doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine, disappointing trial results showed it’s ineffective against the country’s variant."

Another example of the experts gilding the lily/spreading misinformation to suit their own vested interests?

If it doesn't work against variants - it doesn't work against Covid. Might vaguely slow it down on a few graphs for a few months but not ultimately. But still works as a money-spinner just fine - in fact it works even better.

"More than one billion doses are due to go to low- and middle-income countries."

Even now, any admission of inefficacy is hurriedly followed by the claim that they will provide an update "patch" that may or may not work.

"Experts say vaccines could be redesigned and tweaked."

Then we'll provide another redesign when that redesign doesn't work and so on...

Will these new vaccines go through all the trials - or will we skip that bit?

How about those who have already taken the useless one? Do they take another one? What's the effect of taking multiple vaccines in a short timeframe? Especially on the elderly - the ones we're trying to protect?

How about your Vaccine Passport? For travel and getting a job etc? If you've taken the useless one, does that still count?

In GoF experiments viruses will be artificially subjected to immune pressure to get them to mutate - did the immune pressure applied through the trials contribute to the creation of new variants? The trials were conducted in SA, Brazil, and the UK - all these places have produced successful variants - is that a coincidence?

Or should we just shut up now and take it?

"Health Minister Greg Hunt said he had received advice from Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly as well as the Science and Technical Advisory Group, chaired by Health Department secretary Brendan Murphy, that there was “no evidence” the vaccine would be ineffective against severe disease and death from COVID-19 regardless of the variants." (paywall)

Paul Kelly is Australia's Peter Daszak - whatever he says you can assume the opposite.

The 'no evidence' claim stems from the fact that the latest study results that showed AstraZeneca was ineffective against preventing mild to medium Covid symptoms was carried out on under 65's.

As over 65's are the only ones prone to severe symptoms there were no significant levels of severe disease reported in either the control group or the jab group.

A normal person would conclude that seeing how it doesn't prevent mild to medium symptoms it probably doesn't prevent severe symptoms either. Therefore we can stop giving it to people - at least until studies on over 65's are done.

But our intrepid health experts insist that it's full-steam ahead:

Health Minister, Greg Hunt: “The advice is very, very clear and that is there’s currently no evidence to indicate a reduction in the effectiveness of either the AstraZeneca or the Pfizer vaccines in preventing severe disease and death.”

“(O)ur fundamental direction is absolutely clear. The vaccine program in Australia continues to be on track.” (even if it is useless and possibly dangerous)

So this is the standard for vaccine testing now - if the tests haven't been done - therefore there is no evidence that it doesn't work - therefore it's fine!

Let's not forget that a bunch of countries including Germany, France, and Sweden have banned AstraZeneca for over 65's due to safety and/or inefficacy reasons.

Yeah, this tone is completely irresponsible and it's going to come back to bite them on the ass ... or maybe not considering on how adept they are at playing the media.

I've always said that I would have far more respect for and trust in these scientists if they would just come out and say, OK, we have no data on the long term effects of these vaccines, but we think....

But no, they don't do that. They simply say, these vaccines are safe. They even go on to say that they have passed trials as rigorous as any vaccine, which is just a silly statement. If they would just be honest, I would have more trust and be more willing to take the vaccine.

But when they lie, that causes me to call into question their science.

They have zero data on long term effects; therefore, they cannot have scientific evidence that these new generation vaccines have no negative long term effects.

"A new trial is to test how well the Oxford-AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine works in children.

Some 300 volunteers will take part, with the first vaccinations in the trial taking place later in February.

Researchers will assess whether the jab produces a strong immune response in children aged between six and 17."

This is another situation where you need input from an ethicist.

Is it ethical to inject children with an experimental drug that doesn't work? (using the logic that if it doesn't work against variants it doesn't work against Covid)

Especially as children either don't catch Covid to begin with or it's asymptomatic/harmless?

So their natural immune system is already working brilliantly.

Why would you inject that with an immune system altering drug (that doesn't work)?

The other point is, why are pregnant women being offered the vaccine - given there are no studies on children?

Is it ethical to inject children with an experimental drug that doesn't work? (using the logic that if it doesn't work against variants it doesn't work against Covid)

Especially as children either don't catch Covid to begin with or it's asymptomatic/harmless?

So their natural immune system is already working brilliantly.

Why would you inject that with an immune system altering drug (that doesn't work)?

And this is the point. Children don't need the vaccine, period. This virus is not a threat to children, whereas a vaccine is, at the very least, more of a threat to children than the virus.

My guess is that they hope to prove that the vaccine is relatively safe for children; therefore, all children should be vaccinated -- against this virus that poses little if any threat to them.

We're heading down a very slippery slope here I'm afraid.

My guess is that they hope to prove that the vaccine is relatively safe for children; therefore, all children should be vaccinated -- against this virus that poses little if any threat to them.

We're heading down a very slippery slope here I'm afraid.

But think of the money!

Variants

There appears to be 3 main variants - UK, SA, and Brazil. (Is it racist to call these variants by their country origins?) There are some remarkable coincidences connecting the three.

1. All three broke out in the countries where the AstraZeneca trials were conducted. The trials began in late June. The variants were first detected from July in Brazil, September in the UK, and October in SA.

2. Despite the random nature of mutations, we've "started to see some striking evolution of SARS-CoV-2 with a repeated evolutionary pattern in the SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern emerging from the UK, South Africa and Brazil" (Trevor Bedford, geneticist).
Brazilian researchers also reported "The recent emergence of variants (in UK, SA, Brazil) with multiple shared mutations potentially associated with an increase in transmissibility or propensity for re-infection of individuals."

In other words, these three variants on three different continents have undergone mutations in the spike protein in very similar ways.

This makes me wonder:

Is that in response to the same immune pressure?

Will the net result of the immune pressure applied by vaccines be to produce new variants that are impervious to those vaccines?

Where would that leave us?

"Health authorities in some European countries are facing resistance to AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine after side-effects led hospital staff and other front-line workers to call in sick.

"Health authorities in France have issued guidance to stagger giving the shot, two regions in Sweden paused vaccinations, and in Germany some essential workers are refusing it."

"The Sormland and Gavleborg regions (Sweden) said that around 100 out of 400 people vaccinated had reported fever or fever-like symptoms."

I don't know why AstraZeneca hasn't been dumped. You have to assume it's just to do with money.

It's not effective against variants, it causes side-effects that are comparable to catching Covid, and there's no safety data for pregnant women, over 65's, or long term effects.

Are authorities really going to enforce a vaccine passport based on that?

"A survey of Taiwanese adults this month showed that more than 60 percent are willing to be vaccinated against COVID-19, but just 1 percent would accept China-made vaccines, the Chinese-language Global Views monthly magazine said.

If the vaccinations are funded by the government, 60.3 percent of respondents said they would get the inoculation, 32.7 percent would not and 7 percent said they had not yet decided.

Of those willing to be vaccinated, 65.4 percent of men said they would get the vaccine, while only 55.5 percent of women welcomed it.

Recently i often find myself in the minority opinion but i'd be part of the 99% not willing to take a vaccine from China.

Interesting that the overall figures reflect significant hesitancy compared to other countries. Only 55% of women are willing to take it.

Taiwan was right about not trusting WHO/CCP's word on the virus back in the beginning - is it worth heeding their caution on vaccines?

Given Israel has the highest rate of vaccination, it offers the best 'real-world' data on efficacy.

But to get that you have to filter through the propaganda headlines like this:

"Israeli data suggest mass vaccinations led to drop in severe Covid cases"

Here's the actual data that headline was based on:

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The dark blue represents under 50's. The lighter blue is over 70's of whom 84.3% have had two shots of Pfizer. The graph shows the number of patients who required a ventilator as an indication of severe disease.

In fact, there's no significant reduction - there's been an increase in severe disease for over 70's since vaccines began with a slight tapering in the last few days of the study - but nothing you could draw conclusions about.

The headline was contrived using a dodgy twisting of stats represented by the black line. Basically it says that the number of under 50's requiring a ventilator has increased faster than the number of over 70's (both of which have increased steadily), so this is used to argue that the rate of severe disease in over 70's has dropped relative to the rate of increase in under 50's. That's the only way the researchers could wring something vaguely positive out of the data.

Again, this dishonesty was perpetrated by scientists then duly disseminated by the media.

There should have been two stories from the study with the following headlines:

Severe disease increases in over 70's despite vaccine

Alarming jump in severe disease in under 50's

Taipei Times: "Global hopes received a blow on Thursday when Denmark, Iceland, Italy, Norway and Romania postponed or limited the rollout of their quota of Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccines after isolated reports of recipients developing blood clots.

Thailand and Bulgaria followed suit yesterday.

Thailand’s decision led to the embarrassing spectacle of Thai Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha abruptly canceling his own televised jab."

Piyasakol Sakolsatayadorn (health official): “Vaccine injection for Thais must be safe, we do not have to be in a hurry.”

WHO spokeswoman Margaret Harris: “Yes, we should continue using the AstraZeneca vaccine. There is no indication to not use it.”

European Medicines Agency: "The vaccine's benefits continue to outweigh its risks and the vaccine can continue to be administered while investigation of cases of thromboembolic events is ongoing."

Australia’s Department of Health: "There is no evidence of long-term side effects from the jabs."

The last claim is the one we need to watch out for. Yes, there's no evidence of long-term side effects but that's because no long-term studies have been done due to the fact that we skipped that part. You can't then claim that as proof of safety.

ABC: Health authorities are racing to identify the source of infection of a security guard who has tested positive for coronavirus.

NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard: The guard received his first Pfizer vaccine jab on March 2. As we have said all along, vaccination helps but it does not necessarily stop you getting the virus.

From BBC

Stephen Donnelly, Ireland's Health Minister : The decision to temporarily suspend use of the AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine was based on new information from Norway that emerged late last night. This is a precautionary step.

AstraZeneca: The nature of the pandemic has led to increased attention in individual cases and we are going beyond the standard practices for safety monitoring of licensed medicines in reporting vaccine events, to ensure public safety.

(except for where we're not, such as trials on over 65's and long-term side-effects)

Prof Adam Finn, UK's Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI): It's highly undesirable to disrupt a complex and urgent programme every time people develop illnesses after receiving vaccine that may be coincidental and not causally related.

Norwegian Institute of Public Health:

The Norwegian Medicine Agency is asking people under 50 years who had the AstraZeneca vaccine in the last 14 days and who feel increasingly unwell with several large blue patches (skin haemorrhages) more than three days after vaccination, to consult the out-of-hours medical service or their doctor as soon as possible.

(S)everal reports (have been received) about younger vaccinated people with bleeding under the skin (tiny dots and /or larger blue patches) after coronavirus vaccination. This is serious.

Yesterday (there was) an unexpected death from a brain haemorrhage in Tynset after vaccination with COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca.

Today (March 13), we received three more reports of severe cases of blood clots or brain haemorrhages in younger people who have received the AstraZeneca vaccine.

Blood clots and subsequent brain haemorrhages are a rare condition.

Now the entire Norwegian Institute of Public Health has been turned into bloody conspiracy theorists! Soon there will only be the drug company and CCP-affiliated scientists who you can trust to tell the real truth...

BBC: The Netherlands has become the latest country to suspend use of the Oxford-AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine over concerns about possible side effects.

The European Medicines Agency (EMA): (T)he vaccine's benefits continue to outweigh its risks.

Dr Phil Bryan, head of vaccine safety at Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA): People should still go and get their Covid-19 vaccine when asked to do so.

We are closely reviewing reports but... the evidence available does not suggest the vaccine is the cause.

Jens Spahn, German Health Minister:
"The background to this decision follows new reports of cases of cerebral vein thrombosis connected with an AstraZeneca vaccination. In light of these newly reported cases, the Paul Ehrlich Institute today re-evaluated the situation and recommended a suspension of vaccinations and further analysis."

Emmanuel Macron, French President: "We have a simple guide, to be informed by science and the competent heath authorities.

Christian Lindmeier, WHO spokesman: "As of today, there is no evidence that the incidents are caused by the vaccine and it is important that vaccination campaigns continue so that we can save lives and stem severe disease from the virus."

How does the 'listen to the experts' mantra work when different experts say diametrically opposed things?

Prof Sir David Spiegelhalter, Cambridge University on precautionary suspension of AstraZeneca by several countries:

The precautionary principle favours inaction as a way of reducing risk. But the problem is that these are not normal times and inaction can be more risky than action.

Sometimes it can be harmful to wait for certainty. Not vaccinating people will costs lives.

'sometimes' is the key word - it admits that 'sometimes' it can be harmful to not wait - especially with vaccines. So it's not a winning argument by any stretch.

There's some interesting ethical stuff involved here - a lot of the discourse is that administering AstraZeneca outweighs the risks of not. That suggests it's better for a few thousand to potentially die of bloodclots than however many lives of elderly patients would be lost due to a pause on AstraZeneca. It is a difficult thing to weigh but given there are several alternative vaccines and AstraZeneca doesn't work against the Brazil or SA variant, i'd go for the pause - just to be sure.

Update: Germany, France, and Italy have resumed use of AZ following this report from European Medicines Agency (EMA)

Emer Cooke, EMA executive director: This is a safe and effective vaccine. Its benefits in protecting people from Covid-19 with the associated risks of death and hospitalisation outweigh the possible risks (although the EMA) could not rule out definitively a link between the vaccine and a small number of cases of rare and unusual but very serious clotting disorders.

Matt Hancock, British Health Secretary: Listen to the regulators. Get the jab.

BBC: AstraZeneca has updated the efficacy result of its coronavirus vaccine trial in the US after health officials questioned the figures.

This is the latest in a string of controversies surrounding the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine, over dosing, efficacy in the elderly, clots and supplies to the EU.

(S)afety officials monitoring the trial said (AstraZeneca used) "outdated information" that provided an "incomplete view of the efficacy data"

AstraZeneca is saying 'Well, we only fabricated the data a little bit', and that was just because 'we were in a rush'.

BBC: The German medicines regulator found 31 cases of a type of rare blood clot among the nearly 2.7 million people who had received the vaccine in Germany.

German vaccine committee (Stiko): After several consultations, Stiko, with the help of external experts, decided by a majority to recommend the AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine only for persons aged 60 years and older on the basis of available data on the occurrence of rare but very severe thromboembolic side effects.

Chancellor Angela Merkel: We have to be able to trust the vaccines... This also includes the subsequent ongoing testing of their effectiveness and safety, and the permanent weighing of risks and benefits.

Interestingly, the German vaccine committee doesn't trust either the word of AstraZeneca or the EMA, which had recently green-lighted Astra Zeneca.

Like a lot of Covid stuff, we're left to read between the lines. Given AZ's constant use of the 'benefits outweigh the risks' line mixed with German experts persistent distrust of regulators' advice, the conclusion would seem to be that AZ does cause blood-clots though they are rare.

This gets back to the ethical questions we raised before: How many deaths of young healthy people are acceptable in the pursuit of total immunization?

To answer that, we still need to know how effective AZ is against new variants. We heard that it wasn't effective against the Brazil and SA variants then the news dropped off.

If it's not effective against variants and kills young healthy people then it's hard to justify using it.

This gets back to the ethical questions we raised before: How many deaths of young healthy people are acceptable in the pursuit of total immunization?

To answer that, we still need to know how effective AZ is against new variants. We heard that it wasn't effective against the Brazil and SA variants then the news dropped off.

If it's not effective against variants and kills young healthy people then it's hard to justify using it.

And there are probably other variables that could sway the course one way or another. Bottom line is that we don't know the full side effects of these vaccines, and we won't for at least a couple of years.

Bottom line is that we don't know the full side effects of these vaccines, and we won't for at least a couple of years.

On that note, new details are emerging of the Pfizer Vaccine effects - specifically from the second dose:

ABC: Dr Caldicott says he was rather surprised by the strong reaction, because ordinarily he doesn't feel unpleasant after getting vaccinated.

"As an emergency doctor, you don’t want to look weak. I was very relieved to find out many of my colleagues were feeling the same thing … I've had colleagues of mine that have had to take time off work."

Prof Nikolai Petrovsky, Flinders University: "This came out in their phase three clinical trials — it was very clear that there were very high numbers of severe reactions after the second dose. In reality, we don't understand what causes it."

Petrovsky has bobbed up a few times - he's one of the rare experts who tells it as it is.

In Australia there are only two choices: AZ - which doesn't work against variants -
or Pfizer - which causes unexplained 'severe reactions'.

News.com: A 44-year-old man has been admitted to hospital in Melbourne with a rare blood clotting condition after receiving the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine.

The man received the jab on March 22, and presented to hospital with a fever and abdominal pain.

He was found to have abdominal clots with a very low platelet count, with the symptoms mirroring those described by German scientists following administration of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

Here's the paper:
"The AZD1222 vaccine is associated with development of a prothrombotic disorder (which) ... we suggest to name vaccine induced prothrombotic immune thrombocytopenia (VIPIT"

The paper goes through how this is distinct from regular blood-clotting - it concludes the 9 cases examined were afflicted with blood clots as a direct side-effect from AstraZeneca.

It's a rare side effect - but it has been verified - despite the messaging we hear from Australia's top regulatory body (TGA) about there being "no evidence of increased risk" of blood clot deaths related to AstraZeneca:

"The reports (of blood clots) may include incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental and unverified information"

"Furthermore, the number of reports alone cannot be interpreted or used to reach conclusions about the existence, severity, frequency, or rates of problems associated with vaccines."

Why on earth not?

"The data should not be used to make decisions about the medicines or vaccines people take."

What the fuck are you talking about?

Another classic example of blatant disinformation from the experts - no doubt justified by some warped idea they have about being gatekeepers of the 'common good'.

The Australian patient died the next day. There are now reports of at least one additional case of "the extremely rare condition". Seems like it's getting less extremely rare every day.

With talk about Covid jabs becoming a yearly or even 6-monthly flu shot - how does the compound effect work so far as perfectly healthy people dropping dead from blood clots?

Good God. It's rare, yes, but so is death from COVID.

Yep, the paper clearly states, "Conclusions. The AZD1222 vaccine is associated with development of a prothrombotic disorder that clinically resembles heparin-induced thrombocytopenia but which shows a different serological profile."

Very disturbing.

Equally disturbing is the 'common-good' misinformation that the experts now feel they have a license, even a duty, to spread.

Prof Linda Bauld, public health expert, University of Edinburgh: (the blood clots) are rare events. (There is) no evidence at the moment of a causal link - that the vaccine would be directly causing these outcomes.

Linda, there is evidence. That's a lie.

Here's something that crops up repeatedly - if a message starts getting off track we hear the phrase "there's no evidence of (whatever)..."

So far there has been:
"no evidence of human-to-human transmission" (WHO)
"no evidence that facemasks are effective" (Lipkin, Paul Kelly, Aus Chief Health Officer, Fauci)
"no evidence of a lab-leak" (WHO, Lipkin, Daszak etc)
"no evidence that AstraZeneca is not effective against variants" (UK health experts)
"no evidence of long term side effects from any vaccines" (National health experts)
"no evidence that AZ causes blood clots" (Prof Bauld, University of Edinburgh)

Now they're tacking on the phrase "the benefits outweigh the risks (even if there is evidence, which there's not!)"

We shouldn't have to be deciphering bullshit from scientists just to get the facts of the situation.

Here's me evaluating the 'risks against the benefits' of getting an AZ shot:

1. AZ doesn't protect against SA and Brazil variants (and probably others)
2. It's protection against original Covid lasts for as little as 3 months
3. There is virtually no Covid to protect against anyway in Australia currently
4. Covid is rarely fatal for those under 70 - i'm under 70
5. There are no long term studies on the side-effects - coz we were in a rush
6. German/Austrian scientists have shown a link between AZ and a rare blood clotting condition

Yeah - no - think i'm gonna pass.

Germany has now permanently halted the use of AZ in under 60's.

"Germany has reported 31 cases of cerebral thrombosis in 2.7 million doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine, roughly one incident per 90 000 shots." (actually 0ne in 87k)

We're looking at up to a billion shots of AZ being administered worldwide - so that's 11 494 cases of cerebral thrombosis - and about 4600 deaths - from the first round of vaccinations.

If it was effective against variants and there were no alternatives, you'd nearly accept that, but given there are alternatives...

News: The European Medicines Agency (EMA)... has revealed it is reviewing rare blood clots suffered by recipients of the Johnson and Johnson vaccine in the United States.

Johnson and Johnson said it was aware of the review and was working with regulators to assess the issue, but insisted:

“No clear causal relationship has been established between these rare events and the Janssen COVID-19 vaccine”.

Why do they keep calling it "casual relationship"? Is that a nice way of saying 'side-effect'?

News:
Professor Mary-Louise McLaws, epidemiologist, University of New South Wales insisted the extremely rare complications in each of the vaccines far outweighed the threat of COVID-19 (sic - guessing they got that backwards):

"It's all about putting into proportion the risk of death to our elderly group who represent 100 per cent of all coronavirus deaths in Australia ... you want to protect them by vaccinating everybody, but particularly the young ones who have a greater risk of acquiring it and transmitting it.”

Johnson and Johnson has an efficacy rate of 66%, but that falls to "a 57% efficacy in their South Africa trial without accounting for those with the previous infection" - so probably less than 50%.

Gao Fu, director of the China CDC (good friend of W. Ian Lipkin): (Chinese vaccines) don’t have very high protection rates. It’s now under formal consideration whether we should use different vaccines from different technical lines for the immunisation process.

Aljazeera: The effectiveness rate of a coronavirus vaccine from Sinovac, a Chinese developer, at preventing symptomatic infections has been found to be as low as 50.4 percent by researchers in Brazil.

Which puts it on a similar level to AstraZeneca. This is another case of an experimental drug being given to millions of people - even though it's known to be ineffective. That's classic Vaccine Data Wars - it's not about the effectiveness, it's about the information war.

China is now considering a cocktail approach to vaccines, as are "Researchers in Britain (who) are studying a possible combination of the Pfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca vaccines."

This sounds like a reckless double-or-nothing gamble. Where are the studies that test the safety of the cocktail approach? There are none.

The good news is that with all these useless vaccines piling up then we will have plenty of 'vaccines' to sell to third world countries at discount prices!

Interestingly, China has only fully-vaccinated 34 million. For a country that tested 11 million people in Wuhan in a few days, that seems like a piddling amount. This suggests they've known for a while that Sinovac is useless, and or has dangerous side-effects.

Scott Morrison (Aus PM): We're making a formal request to AstraZeneca to access 1 million doses of our contracted supplies of AstraZeneca not for Australia, but for PNG, a developing country in desperate need of these vaccines.

We've paid for them and we want to see those vaccines come here so we can support our nearest neighbour.

We can expect to see a lot more of this dumping of AstraZeneca on poor countries disguised at foreign aid. Bear in mind AZ is banned in most developed countries due to blood clot side effects and studies show it's ineffective against new variants. The bottom line is: if it does work against variants, it doesn't work against Covid.

Yes, this serves so many objectives. It serves to dump the vaccine while also doing so in a way that gets some "good neighbor" mileage out of it. But it also, if one were to be cynical, serves to get more data for the vaccine at less risk to Australians. I wonder where the idiom guinea pigs originated?

One thing I've been wondering about this AstraZeneca clot question is just how common might it be? What we hear about are those cases who have had symptoms bad enough to be hospitalized. No doubt this is occurring on a spectrum of severity, from not at all to, well, death. What about those blood abnormalities that aren't noticed or documented at all? Could this result in long term or delayed effects that will perhaps never be tied to the vaccine?

One thing I've been wondering about this AstraZeneca clot question is just how common might it be? What we hear about are those cases who have had symptoms bad enough to be hospitalized. No doubt this is occurring on a spectrum of severity, from not at all to, well, death. What about those blood abnormalities that aren't noticed or documented at all? Could this result in long term or delayed effects that will perhaps never be tied to the vaccine?

Good questions. Then there's the push to multiply all of the above by making these novel vaccines a perennial thing - just like the flu shot.

What we do know is there is we can't rely on the experts to divulge full information about Covid - 'due to Covid'.

BBC: The Danish Health Authority said studies had shown a higher than expected frequency of blood clots following doses, affecting about one in 40,000 people.

It comes after two cases of thrombosis in Denmark were linked to vaccinations, AFP reported. One of the cases, in a 60-year-old woman, was fatal.

Director General Soren Brostrom: The upcoming target groups for vaccination are less likely to become severely ill from Covid-19. We must weigh this against the fact that we now have a known risk of severe adverse effects from vaccination with AstraZeneca.

So that's common sense - vaccine recipients under 60 are unlikely to catch severe covid, there are other vaccine options, AZ causes blood clots - so why use it?

Most importantly it engages the public in a truthful dialogue that they can relate to - unlike the default stream of misinformation we hear in Australia where it's all just 'SHUT UP and take your jab!

Interestingly Denmark has identified blood clots as a 1 in 40 000 event - that's way lower than the one in 2 million that UK/Aus authorities were saying a couple of weeks ago. Given they produce AZ in Aus and the UK, i wonder which country's experts are lying?

Farhid Hemmatzadeh, University of Adelaide associate professor in virology The Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine is the safest vaccine that exists in the vaccine list. There is no proven link between any particular age, any particular sex, or any particular race in terms of hypersensitivity,"

Lara Herrero, virologist, Griffith University: W)e should be continuing to provide the AstraZeneca vaccine to women under 55.

Paul Kelly, Aus Chief Health Officer: The AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine is effective, it is safe, and it’s a high-quality vaccine. ... It is very effective and extremely safe for most people.

Prof Kelly said more than 11 million people had been vaccinated in the UK without evidence of an increase in blood clots.

Albert Bourla, Pfizer CEO: A likely scenario is that there will be likely a need for a third dose, somewhere between six and 12 months and then from there, there will be an annual revaccination, but all of that needs to be confirmed. And again, the variants will play a key role.

CNBC: Researchers still don’t know how long protection against the virus lasts once someone has been fully vaccinated.

David Kessler, US Covid response chief science officer: We are studying the durability of the antibody response. It seems strong but there is some waning of that and no doubt the variants challenge ... they make these vaccines work harder. So I think for planning purposes, planning purposes only, I think we should expect that we may have to boost.

Again, this looks like a reading between the lines situation - which we are getting very good at.

Sounds like: 'Vaccines only work for 6 months, not effective against variants, get ready for annual shots, we'll need to trim down the safety trials even more - to save everyone'.

ABC: Federal health authorities are investigating the death of a 48-year-old New South Wales woman who developed blood clots after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.

The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) stressed there was currently no known link to the vaccine:

"It has not yet been established whether there is any link between the COVID-19 vaccine and the tragic death reported by NSW health officials. NSW Health has said there is no confirmed link but further investigations are underway."

This is verging on willful negligence. There is a known a link between blood clot deaths and AstraZeneca - it's a brazen lie to say there isn't. Failure to ban AstraZeneca (and stop dumping it on 3rd world countries) is tantamount to manslaughter.

Even the old 'well, we need to lie for the common-good' is blatant BS in this case - it's financial greed. It's no coincidence that the the two countries still pushing AZ (Aus , UK) are both producing the drug.

These are the facts:
AZ is ineffective against SA or Brazil variants - therefore it's ineffective against Covid
It causes serious blood clots in the brain in healthy people - about 1 in 40 000.
There are alternative vaccines.

Sounds like: 'Vaccines only work for 6 months, not effective against variants, get ready for annual shots, we'll need to trim down the safety trials even more - to save everyone'.

And that's the crux. It becomes hard to navigate and calculate the pros and cons of these vaccines. The mere fact that they're now discovering this clotting risk demonstrates how not completing Phase 3 trials has consequences. Keep in mind that Moderna's Phase 3 trial is not complete until October of 2022.

I actually got the J&J shot just before news came out about its clotting trouble. I have a family member with a weakened immune system, and I work in a school surrounded by kids and their snot, so I don't want to bring it home. (Granted, I could still get infected after being immunized, but the viral load would not be as great, meaning I wouldn't be spewing as much virus when I sneezed at home, in theory anyway.) In fact, just last week one of my students had COVID. So I'm not anti-vax. I think vaccine is one of the most profound scientific advances of our time.

On the other hand, I am the breadwinner. I'm not much help to my family if I'm dead or incapacitated, and given my relatively good health, COVID poses little threat to me. Ultimately it comes down to not only the science, but what is being communicated to us. I'm not sure if I'll get another vaccine for COVID. I certainly won't be getting a 'booster'.

Ultimately it comes down to not only the science, but what is being communicated to us. I'm not sure if I'll get another vaccine for COVID. I certainly won't be getting a 'booster'.

I'm not anti-vax either - or anti-science - but i'm anti scientists spreading misinformation/suppressing information due to some self-constructed notion of the 'common-good'. That thinking in itself is against the principles of scientific endeavour - and it's downright dangerous.

It started - actually it's been going on for centuries - but in relation to Covid it started with Lipkin et al's Proximal Origins pangolin paper which was purpose written to shut down speculation of a possible lab-leak. It's release was co-timed with Dazak's infamous petition saying China was "open and transparent".

Only they really know why they did it but i can take a pretty good guess:

'As scientists involved in gain-of-function experiments and infectious disease research we are doing crucial work to protect everyone. Yes, we fucked up by letting Covid escape from the lab, but we can't undo that now, so given that circumstance, what's the best thing for the common-good going forward?

If we 'fess up, the reputation of all scientists will suffer - we'll be handing a rod to 'right-wing nutters' to beat us over the head with. Gain-of-function experiments will be banned (again), as will co-operation with Chinese scientists, and our funding will dry up. Who's gonna fund a bunch of scientists who caused Covid and killed millions of people? Imagine the damage that will do to the overall progress of science...

So we lie about it - for the common good. These are the difficult decisions you have to make when you're an elite. And btw, it's purely a coincidence that what's best for the common-good is also best for us financially.'

Once you've made this leap, it's kinda liberating - there's an un-mooring from the constraints of morality. Now you can justify whatever action you like because you're doing it for the common-good - you're doing it for a higher truth.

This thinking rolled straight over to vaccines.

'The best way to fix up this mess (that scientists created) is through the creation of vaccines. One of our biggest challenges, apart from the science side, is overcoming vaccine hesitancy. As any negative news will fuel the tin-foil hat conspiracy theorists, we need to make sure we tightly control the messaging. If this includes suppressing information or spreading misinformation, then so be it - it's all for the common-good'.

Btw, were there side-effects for the J&J? At least it's only one shot.

Yeah, I had the sweats for a couple nights and a weird dizziness during the day for a few days. Nothing severe. My body reacts oddly to vaccine. I had a flu vaccine the fall of 19 and had severe, I mean frightening, conjunctivitis. It wasn't terribly uncomfortable but my eyes were extremely red. It was a little disturbing.

That experience and this whole fiasco surrounding the COVID vaccines has really put me off getting any more, particularly for ailments that have about a 0.01% or less chance of doing me in.

Yeah, I had the sweats for a couple nights and a weird dizziness during the day for a few days. Nothing severe. My body reacts oddly to vaccine. I had a flu vaccine the fall of 19 and had severe, I mean frightening, conjunctivitis. It wasn't terribly uncomfortable but my eyes were extremely red. It was a little disturbing.

That experience and this whole fiasco surrounding the COVID vaccines has really put me off getting any more, particularly for ailments that have about a 0.01% or less chance of doing me in.

That sounds significant. Seems there's been some underestimation of just the regular side-effects.

Came across something interesting yesterday - have been researching the Anthrax bio-terrorist attack - the Florida doctor who diagnosed the index case, Larry M. Bush, was lead investigator on the AstraZeneca trial in the US. He was pushing some very dubious results which were later questioned and rejected. He is currently lead investigator on a new J&J trial involving two shots instead of one. His tone is absolutely not impartial - you can see that he's rooting for approval. As lead investigator i guess he gets paid for that - don't know if he has any other financial interest.

Another thing that came up in the interview is that the Pfizer and Moderna trials were completed before the variants appeared - so those 90+% figures are not 'real'. AZ and JJ trials were postponed due to some severe reactions (later resumed) but that lag time meant that variants started to creep into the data - hence their much lower efficacy rate compared to the first two.

Sounds absurd, right? Some crazy anti-vax thing - surely...

Washington Post: Johnson & Johnson vaccine was contaminated by ingredients from another company’s vaccine at a manufacturing plant in Baltimore, federal officials confirmed Wednesday

NYT: Workers .. accidentally conflated the ingredients several weeks ago, contaminating up to 15 million doses of Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine and forcing regulators to delay authorization of the plant’s production lines.

The plant is run by Emergent BioSolutions, a manufacturing partner to both Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca, the British-Swedish company whose vaccine has yet to be authorized for use in the United States. Federal officials attributed the mistake to human error.

Anonymous Health Official: We are going to make sure that we understand what happened. We have to work through and find out what is going on.

Not sure why Health officials need to be anonymous - The WP says he/she was "not authorized to discuss the situation". Seems like no one was authorized to discuss it coz it happened 'several weeks ago' but no a peep.

Emergent: There are rigorous quality checks throughout our vaccine manufacturing processes, and through these checks a single batch of drug substance was identified that did not meet specifications and our rigorous quality standards. We isolated this batch and it will be disposed of properly.

Your standards can't be that rigorous - otherwise how would you come to mix up ingredients from two completely different vaccines?

Nature Article: The emergence of the E484K substitution in a B.1.1.7 background represents a threat to the efficacy of the BNT162b2 vaccine. (Pfizer)

Our data suggest that vaccine escape by the virus of current spike-directed vaccines designed against the Wuhan-1 strain will be inevitable, particularly given that E484K is emerging independently and recurrently on a B.1.1.7 (501Y.V1) background, and given the rapid global spread of B.1.1.7.

(B.1.1.7. is the name for the UK variant)

A recent study18 has also shown that variants carrying the E484K substitution resulted in a 3–6-fold reduction in neutralization by sera from individuals who received the mRNA-1273 vaccine.

Finally a study has laid it out in black and white: the Pfizer vaccine (and presumably all of them) don't work against variants.

This confirms what we deduced from the equivocal language that was coming our of Pfizer and their messaging about the possible need for a 'booster'.

Given that variants now are the main form of Covid, the above has serious consequences that appear to be currently being ignored:

Primarily: There is no point injecting everyone with experimental vaccines that don't work. No amount of name-calling against people who point that out is going to change that fact.

Secondly: It's an enormous waste of public money.

The above paper cheerily goes onto say: The (lack of vaccine efficacy) should be mitigated by designing next-generation vaccines with mutated spike sequences and using alternative viral antigens.

But that's illogical. If the virus was able to mutate within months to escape current vaccines then it will do the same to new vaccines. It's chasing your tail.

Luckily for drug companies and scientists, pointlessly chasing your tail at the public's expense results in a financial windfall for the tail chasers.

News: The Therapeutic Goods Administration has reviewed suspected thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) in an 80-year-old Victorian man, a 35-year-old NSW woman and a 49-year-old Queensland man.

TGA: The VSIG [Vaccine Safety Investigation Group] concluded that all three of the cases were likely linked to vaccination. All three patients are clinically stable, have responded well to treatment and are recovering.

Seems they've dropped the "extremely rare" description now - that was standard just a week ago in all press statements.

Australia was one of the last countries to ban Astra-Zeneca in younger people - denying any blood clot link till the last. Even then it set the cut-off mark at 50 - compared to 65 or full-ban in other countries. Of the 7 cases in Aus, one was 48, another 49, another 80.

The information was all there. At what point if any does government (or anyone) become responsible for adverse effects from these experimental drugs?

And this whole thing is about reported cases. Nothing has been said yet about the extent to which this clotting issue affects those of us who were affected but asymptomatic.

Yeah that's the unknown - does it make you more vulnerable to blood clots in the future?

Meanwhile, the experts are still spruiking AZ:

Joseph Doyle, infectious diseases specialist, The Alfred in Melbourne: With all vaccines you're balancing the benefits of these really safe and really effective vaccines with the small, but serious chances of side effects. There’s been a really, really rigorous appraisal in Australia about that and to be conservative, they’ve decided that 50 is the age.

If we were in a pandemic situation like almost any other country in the world, then we would be vaccinating people well below 50 because there's more and more benefit. This includes countries in our region such as those currently experiencing very serious outbreaks of COVID-19, such as Timor Leste and Papua New Guinea.

Firstly, most European countries, which are "in a pandemic situation" have banned AZ for under 65's. South Africa, Denmark, and Norway have banned it outright. Secondly, you're only mentioning Timor Leste and Papua New Guinea coz you're frantically trying to dump AZ there disguised as Foreign Aid.

The data shows that AZ is neither "really safe", nor "really effective" - while the "really, really rigorous appraisal" somehow missed the publicly available information from Europe.

Daniel Thomas, University of Adelaide haematologist and blood researcher: I'm still fully convinced that the vaccine, despite being rushed through and having these unforeseen complications, is already saving the lives of thousands, if not millions.

I'm not. Coz i'm not convinced it works against variants. If it doesn't work against variants it doesn't work against Covid.
ABC: Daniel Thomas said Professor Sutton's comments were right and deep vein thrombosis (DVT) was "common".

Oh, that's a change of tune. Five minutes ago i could have sworn it was "extremely rare"

Prof. Paul Kelly: Well, I think we have to look very carefully at the facts so far. So there is a signal. We have seen these cases that are extremely rare but serious effects following vaccination, particularly in Europe and UK, where they've- millions of doses of AstraZeneca being used. So they're finding .. five per million people getting this issue, and about one in four of those are dying. So, it's a serious effect but extremely rare.

Reuters: Israel’s Health Ministry said on Sunday it is examining a small number of cases of heart inflammation in people who had received Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine.

Israel's pandemic response coordinator, Nachman Ash, said that a preliminary study showed "tens of incidents" of myocarditis (with) ... most cases reported among people up to age 30.

Nachman Ash: The Health Ministry is currently examining whether there is an excess in morbidity (disease rate) and whether it can be attributed to the vaccines.

Pfizer: (W)e have not observed a higher rate of myocarditis than what would be expected in the general population. A causal link to the vaccine has not been established.

There is no evidence at this time to conclude that myocarditis is a risk associated with the use of Pfizer/BNT COVID-19 vaccine.

The old 'no evidence' line again. Seems like there is some evidence though. Israel has been the most pro-active vaccinators in the world - why announce that a "preliminary study" had found cases? Just to stir up trouble against your own program?

Reading between the lines i'd say we've got another serious side effect coming to the fore.

The article doesn't say the time-lag - but mentions the cases were "primarily after the second dose".

This suggests a build-up sleeper effect, which is the worst kind of side-effect in terms of flagging it early - the kind you miss when you're in a rush with trials.

As with the blood clots, are your chances further increased with a yearly set of shots?

News: A “fit and healthy” 55-year-old man from Tamworth died in hospital last week about a week after rolling up his sleeve.

Meanwhile, a 71-year-old Sydney man has also died after getting the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine.

(TGA) said .. no link between his death and the vaccine had yet been established.

Paul Griffin, infectious diseases physician and microbiologist at the University of Queensland: (M)ost of the time these sort of events will simply be a coincidence.

(T)hese events happen in a population all the time.. The vast majority will be shown to be a coincidence so we need to be really careful with jumping to conclusions.

We also need to be really careful about dismissing these blood clot deaths as a coincidence. The TGA has denied a link from the beginning, then we had a begrudging admission a month or so after the evidence became overwhelming, now we're back to denying each new case.

At some point AZ will be banned, as it already is in Denmark and South Africa. In the US it can't even get approval. Given the data we have, will TGA take responsibility for the deaths its denial of a link causes?

Lancet: We also investigated infection rates after the first vaccine dose in a subset of 67 293 app users who received BNT162b2 and 36 329 who received ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 in the study period.

We compared the test results of this population with those of 464 356 unvaccinated app users who had a PCR or lateral flow test (covid test) result between Jan 4, and March 10, 2021.

12–20 days after vaccination, infection risk in the vaccinated group was significantly lower than in the unvaccinated group.

Risk Reduction
Pfizer (BNT162b2): −58%
AstraZeneca (ChAdOx1 nCoV-19) −39%

From 21-44 days AZ went up (down) to -60% and Pfizer -69%.

The glaring problem with this study is that it's not a fair comparison. Whereas vaccine recipients must present symptom free to receive a shot, unvaccinated people are most likely to get a Covid-test only when they do have flu-like symptoms.

It stands to reason that the second group is going to have a much higher positivity rate.

If you compared infection rates of an unvaccinated group with no symptoms with an unvaccinated group with symptoms then you may well get similar results.

The short answer is 'yes'. If you knock it on the head the first time then that's fine but if you don't...

DW: The problem with weak vaccines

When weak vaccines are used, however, or the second dose is delayed for too long, the vaccine has the exact opposite of the desired effect. That's what Pennsylvania State University virologist Andrew Read warns against. In 2001, his research with poultry viruses led him to the conclusion that low-efficacy vaccines could even promote the development of more dangerous virus strains.

So we need to think it through. We don't want another situation with health professionals over-proscribing drugs and making things worse.

AstraZeneca's efficacy is low - it's being dumped on developing countries. It's long term side-effects are unknown.

Do the experts really know what they're doing? Or is it all about money and not losing face?

Interesting articles. So much comes down to how quick and nimble this virus is with regards to mutation.

ABC: (Pfizer) expects to pull in $US26 billion ($33.6 billion) of income from its COVID-19 vaccine this year.

Albert Bourla, Pfizer's chief executive officer: Based on what we've seen, we believe that a durable demand for our COVID-19 vaccine – similar to that of the flu vaccines – is a likely outcome.

We want to be a long-term partner to health authorities around the world in their ongoing efforts to combat COVID-19.

ABC: The company said it hoped ... to produce up to 2.5 billion doses this year and 3 billion in 2022.

"Durable demand" - that's a nice way to say that 'our vaccines won't actually stop Covid - but that's good news coz it means we'll make an even bigger killing going forward'.

News: Five Australians have suffered blood clots believed to be linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine in just one week, with one man being treated in ICU.

The TGA said it is also actively investigating a further three possible cases.

Interestingly, all these cases are in people over 50. So much for the story that blood clots only affect younger people.

CDC: Over 245 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through May 3, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 4,178 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.

The report suggests all these cases could have been coincidental deaths.

CDC: A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines.

All available data at this time shows that the known and potential benefits of the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine outweigh its known and potential risks for those recommended to receive it.

That's cover-your-arse speak - so later you can say 'Well we acted according to the available data'.

CDC: COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective.

Millions of people in the United States have received COVID-19 vaccines under the most intense safety monitoring in U.S. history.

'Most intense safety monitoring in history'? Are you sure? Given you skipped the final safety trial then unleashed vaccines on the entire population of the earth to see what happens?

CDC: However, women younger than 50 years old especially should be aware of the rare but increased risk of TTS.

BBC: The WHO on Friday said it had validated the "safety, efficacy and quality" of the Sinopharm jab.

WHO: (The vaccine) has the potential to rapidly accelerate Covid-19 vaccine access for countries seeking to protect health workers and populations at risk.

BBC: WHO had previously only approved the vaccines made by Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson and Moderna.

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus: (WHO approval will give) confidence to (countries to) expedite their own regulatory approval.

Doesn't give me confidence. Even the Chinese don't have confidence in their own vaccines, saying recently that they lack efficacy and need further development. (see earlier post)

This is all about money and off-loading dud vaccines onto developing countries.

As mentioned before, low-efficacy vaccines being used in countries with high infection rates is a recipe for disaster. The only result with be to produce more virulent variants.

The good news (for vac producers) is that this will ensure that the whole vaccine circus becomes a permanent industry.

NEWS: This week, NSW’s Health COVID-19 surveillance report revealed that six overseas travellers who reported they were fully vaccinated have tested positive for the virus while in hotel quarantine.

NSW Health noted all six may have contracted the potentially deadly virus prior to their vaccination becoming fully effective.

Here's a crazy idea - ask them, 'When did you get vaccinated'?

Unless of course you don't want to know so you can keep saying there's "no evidence" that vaccines don't work against variants.

On a positive note, there are reports of a French vaccine (Valneva) in stage 3 trials that sounds promising. It uses traditional methods, can be stored in a normal refrigerator, and is supposedly 'variant-proof'. That last one needs to be seen to be believed, but if it is, and it's shown to be safe, then i might even get a shot.

BBC: 60% of doctors in the intensive care unit in Lok Nayak Jai Prakash Narayan (LNJP) Hospital, Delhi's largest Covid-19 hospital, were infected after being fully vaccinated.

60%! This from an article that downplays the phenomenon of vaccinated infections.

It said most of the cases were not severe - but most of the cases of Covid generally are not severe.

The media is doing their best to downplay stories of vaccinated people being infected - it's rarely even reported. If it is, the journalist always says there's "not enough evidence". Actually there's a stack of evidence but it's not the kind people want to know about.

The worst case scenario is using partially effective vaccines that only succeed in producing variants that are immune to vaccines. Unless you're a vaccine manufacturer of course - then it's an ongoing bonanza.

BBC: Moderna said its second-round booster shots are still being tested, but are expected to neutralise different variants of the virus.

Earlier this month, the US firm released positive results from the trials of a modified vaccine aimed at the South African and Brazilian variants.

Stephane Bancel, Moderna chief executive: We appreciate the partnership and support from the government of Australia with this first supply agreement for doses of the Moderna Covid-19 vaccine and our variant booster candidates.

Ok, using the Covid-language-decipher, that implies the current versions don't work against the SA and Brazil variants - otherwise why would you do trials for a all-new-improved one that supposedly does?

The "no evidence" mantra we've seen to quash unpalatable truths from a lab-leak origin to vaccine side-effects to vaccine resistant variants is still alive and well:

BBC: The Department of Health and Social Care: There is no firm evidence yet to show this variant (Indian) has any greater impact on severity of disease or evades the vaccine.

If there's no evidence, why are all the vaccine companies scrambling to make so called "booster" shots? Why would you waste your time and money if the current vaccines work fine against variants?

Ok, using the Covid-language-decipher, that implies the current versions don't work against the SA and Brazil variants - otherwise why would you do trials for a all-new-improved one that supposedly does?

Well, regardless, of course they want these vaccines to become part of our yearly ritual. This is a wet dream for them. This is what they live for.

The worst case scenario is using partially effective vaccines that only succeed in producing variants that are immune to vaccines. Unless you're a vaccine manufacturer of course - then it's an ongoing bonanza.

God that's a scary proposition. And the question has to be raised regarding to what extent it's all by design. In other words, if such variants do arise as a result of the vaccines, resulting in the promotion of more vaccines, will this be by design or just faulty science and politics?

A similar situation has happened with antibiotics. Their massive overuse has resulted in horrendous bacteria immune to antibiotics, resulting in the need to develop even more powerful antibiotics. I don't think this has been by design, just bad medicine. The corner druggist in Taiwan will gladly sell anybody antibiotics over the counter. And that's the case in much if not most of the world, I imagine.

But this situation is different. I'm not feeling terribly positive about the next couple of years. I hope I'm wrong.

A similar situation has happened with antibiotics. Their massive overuse has resulted in horrendous bacteria immune to antibiotics, resulting in the need to develop even more powerful antibiotics. I don't think this has been by design, just bad medicine.

In fact, according to this paper on infection and drug resistance: nearly 1.7 million hospitalized patients annually acquire HCAIs (hospital care associated infections) while being treated for other health issues and that more than 98,000 of these patients (one in 17) die due to HCAIs ... HCAIs are among the top five killers in the USA.

Actually no. 4, which is higher than cancer and car accidents.

The overuse of antibiotics (plus poor hygiene by health care professionals) has created this ongoing monster - to the point that hospitals are one of the most dangerous places on earth.

History does repeat itself - the problem is we never seem to learn anything from it.

Taiwan News: Introduced by Taiwan’s National Research Institute of Chinese Medicine in 2020, the traditional Chinese medicine treatment called NRICM101 (清冠一號) includes ten herbs, such as mint, houttuynia, and licorice, according to the National Research Institute of Chinese Medicine, Ministry of Health and Welfare.

The manufacturer's claim is that the product is effective in reducing fevers and "achieving 3 consecutive negative test results within a median of 9 days," however evidence to support this from non-traditional medicine authorities is lacking.

That sounds interesting. Imagine if Covid could be cured by a simple herbal remedy? Then the world wouldn't have to be injected with experimental drugs every year.

I don't know if it works or not - i'd like to see more trials. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for traditional western medical authorities to endorse it - that would fuck up everything they've worked so hard to achieve.

New England Journal of Medicine: In this trial, we found that two doses of the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine(AstraZeneca) had no efficacy against the B.1.351 variant in preventing mild-to-moderate Covid-19.

Mild-to-moderate Covid-19 developed in 23 of 717 placebo recipients (3.2%) and in 19 of 750 vaccine recipients (2.5%). .. The incidence of serious adverse events was balanced between the vaccine and placebo groups.

So it's efficacy is within the margin of error for that of the placebo.

Not only is it therefore rendered useless, but it causes bloodclots.

As mentioned before, the worst case scenario is to flood the world with ineffective vaccines - thereby making the virus worse. Whoops... too late.

So here's a quick recap of Covid so far:

1. Scientists fucking around with GoF experiments produced a highly contagious coronavirus which escaped from the lab and killed millions of people.

2. Whilst denying the above to protect the CCP and themselves - and vilifying anyone asking questions - scientists made a killing by creating dud vaccines that made the virus worse.

3. Freedoms of speech, movement, assembly have been restricted - centralized surveillance has gone through the roof - as per the advice of health experts.

Good job guys. Do you think you could take a break now so we can clean up this unmitigated disaster you've unleashed upon humanity?

Dr. Connie Lehman, director of breast imaging, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston:
People started getting vaccinated in December and we were having our healthcare workers in for their mammograms and we were like 'Wow this person has really enlarged lymph nodes'.

We had reported this in mammography centers before but nowhere near at the level we were seeing with the COVID vaccine. We think that’s because the COVID vaccine creates a very strong immunological response.

Let's hope that they really are 'false' positives. When you start pumping populations full of experimental drugs that mess with the body's immune response then that's playing around with a fundamental regulatory system in human health.

From the previous study - AZ's inefficacy wasn't down to it not generating a vigourous immune response in the body - it was doing that fine - just not one that was useful against Covid anymore.

Weirdly the study speculated that generating "an enhanced antibody response ..might confer better residual neutralizing activity against the B.1.351 variant".

Please don't do that!

I guess all this is why normal safety trials are meant to take several years, as Dan pointed out many moons ago.

Here's another deliberately misleading report from the BBC.
Sub-headline:The Pfizer and AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccines are highly effective against the variant identified in India after two doses, a study has found.

Thank God! Here i was worried that AZ in particular wouldn't work against a range of new variants - not just the SA one.

BBC: However, both vaccines were only 33% effective against the Indian variant three weeks after the first dose.

Oh, 33% is low - but that's only one dose.

BBC: Given (the Indian variant) is expected to become the dominant variant in the UK, it's now even more important people get their second jab.

Makes sense on the surface, but then towards the bottom of the article we get this:

BBC: There is not enough data to estimate how effective the vaccine is against severe outcomes for the Indian variant, PHE (Public Health England) said.

So if there's not enough data, why are are you trumpeting that it's effective?

Dr Jamie Lopez Bernal, epidemiologist at PHE, study's lead author: There are bigger numbers that have been vaccinated with one dose. So I think we classify that (33%) as moderate certainty around the first dose, but low levels of confidence around the second dose.

Hang on - didn't you just say it's "highly effective" after two doses? But even the lead author says there are "low levels of confidence around the second dose"?

C'mon guys - this is using your mega-media platforms to spread vaccine disinformation - which as we pointed out - is very dangerous, irresponsible behaviour.

Rick Bright, virologist: I believe we do great harm with influenza. We propagate influenza because we’re chasing next year’s virus, with a vaccine that was designed against viruses that were circulating one to two years ago. The influenza vaccines are partially effective. When you’re partially effective, you’re just driving that virus to continue to change. (Note: Bright has some disturbing ideas re genomic surveillance on how to combat this - but i'll leave that for another post.)

So here's an alternative headline that better reflects the truth of the study's findings:

Low level of confidence around 2-jab effectiveness of AZ/Pfizer against Indian variant - study

Scientists warn partially effective vaccines are precipitating a nightmare scenario of super-bug generation by "driving the virus to continue to change".

Of course that headline is not gonna happen - but it's true.

One of the most disturbing, cynical implications of all this is that it is those people who don't get vaccinated who will suffer the most from these superbugs whose development is fueled by ineffective vaccines.

In other words, if a vaccine is 50% effective, then of course the person who gets vaccinated will have less of a chance of severe illness than the person who isn't. But as the use of that vaccine increases the lethality of the virus, it is the unvaccinated who will suffer most as a result.

An analogy might be air conditioning and global warming. As the world heats up, some people will turn up their air conditioning, further heating up the world, and harming most those without air conditioning.

So, as you've point out already, this is a vicious cycle in which new, partially effective vaccines have to be continually produced to address new, increasingly lethal viruses, much like what has happened with antibiotics. And it is those people who are not on the vaccine bandwagon who will suffer the most. The media, of course, will blame their suffering on not being vaccinated without exploring what is driving the emergence of these viruses.

The media, of course, will blame their suffering on not being vaccinated without exploring what is driving the emergence of these viruses.

Yeah, pretty sure 'thinking things through' has been outlawed - due to Covid.

Meanwhile the Queensland (north east state of Aus) government has very quietly banned AZ from being administered at its vaccination hubs. That's kinda huge news - the vaccine we were all implored to get that was both safe and effective has now been withdrawn - but it attracted an indiscernible level of media coverage with none of the major dailies covering it.

All other states are still flogging AZ and vilifying anyone who questions it - as per normal.

Alexander Fleming, 1945: (T)he public will demand the drug and … then will begin an era … of abuses. The microbes are educated to resist penicillin and a host of penicillin-fast organisms is bred out which can be passed to another individual and perhaps from there to others until they reach someone who gets a septicemia or a pneumonia which penicillin cannot save.

In such a case, the thoughtless person playing with penicillin treatment is morally responsible for the death of the man who finally succumbs to an infection with penicillin-resistant organisms. I hope this evil can be averted.

Sorry Alexander, that evil couldn't be averted. Well it could have been - but it wasn't.

Worse news - no one was held morally responsible for the boom in hospital acquired infections that persists to today

Good news: Mild COVID-19 induces lasting antibody protection

People who have had mild illness develop antibody-producing cells that can last lifetime

Oddly, I haven't seen this study pop up in any of the articles calling for universal, ongoing, yearly vaccinations.

(Sarcasm intended.)

Good news: Mild COVID-19 induces lasting antibody protection

People who have had mild illness develop antibody-producing cells that can last lifetime

Oddly, I haven't seen this study pop up in any of the articles calling for universal, ongoing, yearly vaccinations.

(Sarcasm intended.)

I have wondered before: Why not give everyone under 50 a small shot of pure Covid? It won't kill them, it produces antibodies, it's cheap to produce, and we can achieve herd immunity.

44 year-old BBC presenter, Lisa Shaw, has died of blood clots a week after receiving her first shot of AstraZeneca. She had no underlying health conditions.

Family: Lisa developed severe headaches a week after receiving her AstraZeneca vaccine and fell seriously ill a few days later.

She was treated by the RVI's [Royal Victoria Infirmary] intensive care team for blood clots and bleeding in her head.

BBC: The BBC has seen the interim fact-of-death certificate issued by Newcastle's senior coroner Karen Dilks. The document does not determine a cause of death.

(Blood clots) are considered extremely rare .. all of medicine is a balance of risk and benefit.

This is more bad news for AZ. It was a matter of time before a celebrity died and even though the BBC is stoically (coldly?) downplaying it, public confidence in the vaccine will sink even lower.

Purpose-built factories in the UK, Australia, and India are churning out billions of doses of AZ, which explains why health experts keep insisting it's safe and effective - gotta shift 'em somehow.

Apart from Lisa Shaw, there have been 58 AZ blood clot deaths reported in the UK so far, and 332 cases.

Israel Study: Our results show that there is an increased incidence of VOC B.1.351 (SA variant) in vaccine breakthrough infections in fully vaccinated individuals with BNT162b2, (Pfizer) and increased incidence of VOC B.1.1.7 (UK) in partially vaccinated individuals.

(I)n vitro neutralization assays that have shown a large reduction in neutralization against B.1.351

So it's not just AZ that fails against the SA variant.

(A) significantly higher proportion of B.1.351 was observed in FE (vaccinated) cases vs. unvaccinated controls.

The study does say it was a small sample size and the results can't be taken as definitive.

But then you have to ask, where are the big sample-size studies that we can take as definitive? Why are they not being published?

This is the place to watch as a guide to how Covid will play out for the rest of the year. The UK did an impressive job reeling in an out-of-control situation through a combination of restrictions and vaccines - but some are predicting a resurgence
Prof Ravi Gupta, University of Cambridge: Of course the numbers of cases are relatively low at the moment - all waves start with low numbers of cases that grumble in the background and then become explosive, so the key here is that what we are seeing here is the signs of an early wave.

BBC: He said the number of people who had been vaccinated in the UK meant this wave would probably take longer to emerge than previous ones.

Gupta: There may be a false sense of security for some time, and that's our concern.

Interesting that he talks about vaccines giving a 'false sense of security'. If the security vaccines offer from Covid is false then you wonder what's the point.

The big test is whether they can handle the Indian variant. We know they are useless against the SA variant, but that doesn't seem to have spread as widely as the Indian one.

Media has broadly announced that AZ is "highly effective against Indian variant" but as we discovered when you looked deeper at the data, even the researchers had low confidence in that pronouncement - and as Gupta says - all outbreaks start out with small numbers.

ABC: The WHO's independent panel of experts said in a statement it recommended Sinovac's vaccine for adults over 18.

WHO & independent experts? - that's an oxymoron.

BBC: It is the second Chinese vaccine to receive the green light from the WHO, after Sinopharm. It opens the door for the jab to be used in the Covax programme.

That means we can now dump it on third world countries.

BBC: As well as China, the vaccine is already being administered in countries including Chile, Brazil, Indonesia, Mexico, Thailand and Turkey.

Where it's proving to be spectacularly useless.

BBC: One of Sinovac's main advantages is that it can be stored in a standard refrigerator at 2-8 degrees Celsius. This means Sinovac is a lot more useful to developing countries.

Hello? If it's not effective, it's not useful. It's dangerous. Even Chinese officials say it ineffective.

George Gao, China CDC head: (We are)formally considering options (how to) solve the problem that the efficacy of the existing vaccines is not high.

As we've heard with AZ, the talk from the experts is 'maybe if we upped the doses - or how 'bout we cocktail it with other vaccines!?'

This is reckless, dangerous talk. Flooding the world with ineffective vaccines will only make the virus worse - it already has.

Here's a study that strikes me as disturbing:

A new study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) found that a COVID-19 vaccination prompts a robust secretion of antibodies in breast milk for up to 6 weeks after vaccination.

Dr. Danelle Fisher, pediatrician and chair of pediatrics at Providence Saint John’s Health Center in Santa Monica, California, finds it “incredibly encouraging” that antibodies were found in infants several weeks out.

“We start by giving moms protection that we hope lasts and that they can pass on to the baby. And it looks like that’s what’s going on,” Fisher told Healthline.

Babies are at virtually zero risk of contracting severe Covid - do we really want to introduce an experimental drug into their bodies as breastfeeding babies?

The researchers also investigated adverse events among the women and their infants.

Some women had side effects from the vaccines and four infants experienced fever, cough, and congestion after their mothers were vaccinated.

“The study’s conclusions are exciting,” said Fisher.

Funnily enough i know some parents who just had a baby - they're big pro-vaxxers to the point that you can't see the baby unless you've been vaccinated. The baby is apparently crying continuously - the parents, including the father, who is a doctor, don't know why.

Funnily enough i know some parents who just had a baby - they're big pro-vaxxers to the point that you can't see the baby unless you've been vaccinated. The baby is apparently crying continuously - the parents, including the father, who is a doctor, don't know why.

Well, he's the doctor, but that sounds backwards to me. Given that the infant is not threatened by COVID a this point in their life, wouldn't it be wise to indeed expose them to the virus that's floating around so they can build natural immunity?

Following on from reports in Israel of a jump in heart inflammation (myocarditis or pericarditis) cases related to Pfizer, there are now reports of a similar surge in the US. The condition is a specific side-effect of the mRNA vaccines and appears to mainly affect young men aged 18-30 after the 2nd shot. It's interesting that it's after the 2nd shot - suggests a compounding effect. How's it gonna be with all the booster upon booster doses going into our youth's arms every year? The experts say themselves it's likely to be an ongoing flu-shot deal. Will there be a pandemic of people dying from heart problems in their 60's in 40 years time? The experts would say definitely not - cause there's no evidence for that.

NBC: It's unclear how many patients were admitted to the hospital, or, for example, were discharged following a visit to the emergency room. Fifteen patients remain hospitalized, with three in intensive care units. Two of the patients in the ICU had other health problems.

Why is it unclear? This is a common refrain from the experts about vaccine side-effects. It comes from a reluctance to report any factual information that may add to 'vaccine hesitancy' as well as a reluctance to do the studies in the first place - or even keep track of basic statistics. At the time of the Israel report this was the response:

Pfizer: (W)e have not observed a higher rate of myocarditis than what would be expected in the general population. A causal link to the vaccine has not been established.

They complain that people don't listen to the experts and instead 'go onto forums(!)' to get information.

The reason people seek alternative sources of information is that we're being fed a stream of misinformation by the media and the experts.

Let's not forget - the same people that brought us the CCP's version of Covid's origin (definitely not a lab accident) and vilified anyone questioning that, are now bringing us vaccines.

The fact that they're giving this vaccine to people who have a nearly 0 chance of getting seriously ill from the virus is just crooked. The fact that they're doing so before the vaccine has passed all safety trials is criminal.

One could make an argument for emergency authorization of vaccines for high risk groups, but for these companies to try to ride the coattails of these previous authorizations, to try to slip this in while everyone is still dazed and confused by all the BS of the last 18 months, is very disturbing. When in history have we ever given untested vaccines to children for a virus that has a nearly 0 percent chance of causing them harm?

Keep in mind that they are now authorizing these vaccines for children, even though the vaccines have not completed any phase 3 trials at all, and certainly none for this age group. In fact, I question whether they've even started phase 3 trials for this age group.

In fact, I question whether they've even started phase 3 trials for this age group.

Seems the roll-out is the trial.

The salient point, as you highlighted, is why are we giving young people experimental vaccines to protect them against a virus that they're naturally impervious too?

Hidden quietly in the studies and reports it seems the most comprehensive protection against Covid you can get is to have caught it and survived it.

Weirdly, even those that have recovered, are still being given vaccines - they crop up in reports as having the worst reactions to the vaccine.

Back in March we had this BBC report:

The Pfizer and AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccines are highly effective against the variant identified in India (later named Delta) after two doses, a study has found.

A look at the actual study showed that was rubbish.

Now Delta is surging in the UK.

Virologist Professor Deenan Pillay, said approximately 90 per cent of new Covid infections in the country are now due to the Delta variant, with the number of cases doubling every nine days.

That's weird - if they're so effective, why are 90% of the new wave cases Delta variant?

This is important information. It's immoral to pump people full of vaccines knowing they don't work against the world's primary form of Covid.

Apart from needlessly subjecting people to side-effects, partially effective vaccines only make the virus worse.

Scott Morrison, Aus PM (aka Scotty from Sales): Australia will be doing its part, as we already have been, committing some 20 million doses as part of that effort here at the G7 Plus in Cornwall.

These 20 million doses will go support our region to ensure that we continue to exercise our responsibility as part of a broader global responsibility to combat this virus.

The goal od these G7+ countries is to donate one billion doses to developing countries.

Dump your dud vaccines here.

Later they will say 'Oh who knew?' - same as the lab-leak - but the information has been there for two months already with more every day - the current experimental drugs don't work against new variants. By still pushing them, you assume culpability for the consequences.

Nick Triggle, BBC health expert: Rising infections in the UK are being driven by the Delta variant, first identified in India, which now accounts for 90% of infections. If it wasn't for the Delta variant, the government would in all likelihood be announcing the go-ahead for a full unlock.

I'm confused - if the vaccines are highly effective against Delta, and the UK is heavily vaccinated ...?

That much can be seen from how quickly infection levels are rising. The trajectory we are on means we could see January levels of infection by the end of July.

Hell! That's square one.

Exactly what that means for hospital admissions is less clear.

Here we go with the 'less clear - no evidence' fallback.

(I)t is even possible the immunity built up by the vaccines will have started to halt the growth by then.

It's even possible!? We've come a long way from vaccines are "highly effective" against Delta, Nick. Now it's 'even possible'. Next stop?

Prof Hayward, UK Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE): The fact that we’ve got 55 per cent of the adult population double vaccinated means that this will be substantially less bad than it could’ve been but we still don’t know exactly how bad it could be.

That sounds like good news - thank God for the vaccines - but the next thing he says is:

The fact that the level of hospitalisations from this infection appear to be maybe up to double those from the previous infection is of course also extremely concerning.

Professor, you've made two statements that directly contradict each other - like 180 degrees. In one breath you're saying it won't be as bad due to the UK's mass vaccination, in the next you're saying it will be twice as bad. So which one is it?

Professor, you've made two statements that directly contradict each other - like 180 degrees. In one breath you're saying it won't be as bad due to the UK's mass vaccination, in the next you're saying it will be twice as bad. So which one is it?

I guess we'll find out in a few months! This fall (for those of us... up above) will be very telling.

I think what's going to happen is that the world is going to be biting its nails as it opens up in the coming six months, then we'll head into the winter of 21-22, and that will be telling with regards to the effectiveness of the vaccines.

Or will it? If pandemics die out, on average, in 1-2 years, wouldn't this the die out anyway on that timeline?

And if it does die out naturally, but credit is given to the vaccines, then we'll be encouraged to get our yearly COVID shot. So in reality, given that we can't trust the science superstars any longer for straight, objective reporting, if it lets up this next year, we won't know if that was due to the vaccines or a natural life cycle.

But if it doesn't let up, then we're clearly fucked. And we'll still be encouraged, perhaps required, to get vaccinated even tough it didn't work the first time.

I have this sinking feeling that in the next 2-5 years, the world will be facing something far worse than COVID. We're looking at serious economic instability worldwide right now. Currencies are weakening, in some countries teetering, and in a few collapsing. When countries get desperate, they go to war, either against another country or their own citizens, or both. This whole COVID thing might be filed into the 'good old days' in hindsight.

I have this sinking feeling that in the next 2-5 years, the world will be facing something far worse than COVID. We're looking at serious economic instability worldwide right now. Currencies are weakening, in some countries teetering, and in a few collapsing. When countries get desperate, they go to war, either against another country or their own citizens, or both. This whole COVID thing might be filed into the 'good old days' in hindsight.

To qualify that, I'm not necessarily predicting a world war, although that might happen in a window of more like 2-8 years. What I'm looking at is internal social instability in countries around the world as economies come under pressure and more people go hungry or see the hopelessness of their situation.

This, in turn, may lead to international war.

To qualify that, I'm not necessarily predicting a world war, although that might happen in a window of more like 2-8 years. What I'm looking at is internal social instability in countries around the world as economies come under pressure and more people go hungry or see the hopelessness of their situation.

This, in turn, may lead to international war.

And proactive, powerful countries like China and the US, seeing this internal conflict on the radar, may invite an international conflict to deflect internal strife and incite nationalism in order to squelch voices of decent.

What I'm looking at is internal social instability in countries around the world as economies come under pressure and more people go hungry or see the hopelessness of their situation.

This, in turn, may lead to international war.

From the economists that i've spoken to - they seem to think the Funny Money Theory will keep things afloat until 2022. Then it won't.

At a time when we need to think things through it seems we've gone the other way - this may be the fatal flaw of the system of government that we have - institutionalized myopia.

If pandemics die out, on average, in 1-2 years, wouldn't this die out anyway on that timeline?

We're already up to a year and a half, so if it's gonna die out then it better get a wriggle on!

Or will it be like the flu - where new strains (and new vaccines) go on forever?

This is where the man-made aspect comes into it. If it's not natural, then it may not die out naturally. Those still denying the possibility of a lab-leak always mention that coronaviruses jumping from animals to humans are relatively common - what they fail to mention is that the vast majority are harmless - certainly nothing like this has ever happened with a coronavirus.

So that puts us in uncharted territory.

Taiwan Times: TVBS reports that the death toll following AstraZeneca vaccinations has risen to 18. (Re)ports have started to pour in of recipients dying after returning home from their injection.

The article mentions that not all deaths have been definitely linked to the jab but it's disturbing news if true. The US has been very opaque about vaccine deaths, as has Australia - but seems someone forgot to tell Taiwan that.

Australia health officials have been forced to belatedly raise the age for AZ again from 50 to 60 after another blood clot death.

Paul Kelly, CHO, Australia: I will point out that this remains an extremely rare event to get these serious clots. (The woman’s death) is clearly concerning … but I would say this – we have made those decisions based on the risk and benefit equation. At the moment, the AstraZeneca is a really important element of the vaccine rollout.

See, Taiwan, that's the way to do it - just keep denying there's a problem and talk about risk-benefit.

Never mind the data that says AZ is the same as a placebo against the SA variant and likely others - think of the benefit to our drug manufacturing industry!

Here's a recap.

International reports of problems with AZ surfaced well before Australia's AZ roll-out began
Most European countries suspended use and/or limited it to over 60's while several banned it outright, including South Africa, Japan and Denmark. The US refused to give it approval due to dodgy data from an AZ trial. Still hasn't approved it.
None of that stopped Australia's experts from talking it up and administering it - mainly coz our version of WIV, CSL, had started manufacturing it. At this stage there were no age-limits and people were castigated for asking for Pfizer while anyone who asked questions was labelled a 'conspiracy theorist' along with the loonies who were suggesting Covid could have leaked from a lab.
As reports mounted here and overseas of blood clots, the experts first claimed there was "no evidence", then when it became impossible to get away with that lie any longer, they announced that those under 50 would be given the option to have Pfizer - though under 50's were still offered AZ by doctors. Meanwhile cases of blood clots in people 40+ kept surfacing despite the media's best efforts to suppress the news.
Now we have a new announcement that the age limit has been raised to 60 - along with the following statements:

Paul Kelly, CHO: It is a difficult thing we have learned in this pandemic (AZ causes blood clots). We need to keep track of the new advice that comes along and act on it. We adapt, we’re adapting again today.

Greg Hunt, Health Minister: (We're being) very cautious. It was a difficult decision, but it was the right decision. We had very clear medical advice from the people who’ve helped keep us safe.

Cautious!? New advice?! Keeping us safe!? You lying fucking pricks. The advice has been there all along. If we can read and report published data from around the world, then why can't you?

Seems there's "no data" on the total number of deaths caused by vaccines worldwide - so that, according to the experts' logic, must mean there aren't any!

There are countless sites keeping track of every Covid infection and death, as well as every vaccine administered - but nothing on the number of vaccine deaths. Nothing.

Yes, you can find individual country data if you look hard - though a lot of that is opaquely recorded - but where's the death toll at globally? No idea.

According to VAERS reports in the US, we're up to about 5000 deaths there - and that's without AZ in the mix, which is the mostly widely used vaccine around the world.

So to extrapolate that figure on a world scale? The US at 333 mil has has about 1/24th of the world's total pop, which is 7.9 billion.

So 5000 x 24 - that gives us an approximate death toll of 120 000!

Oh, now i see why there's no data on it.

The scary thing is that we're still in the early days of the vaccine rollout and these are only the short-term deaths.

Nor is there likely to be data easily accessible on the long term affects of these vaccines.

I find it odd that they're still saying things like, "The vaccine you can get is the best." Such bullshit.

It appears at this point that the mRNA vaccines, Moderna and Pfizer, provide the best protection with the fewest side effects, but since they haven't completed Phase 3 trials, we're still just guessing with regards to the side effects.

This mRNA technology may indeed turn out to be something fantastic, and if so, well, fantastic. But recommending them for children at essentially 0 risk of disease is stupid, irresponsible, maybe criminal. The problem is that people, and the media, tend to take a black/white view on this. We're in a very, very gray area here.

AZ should just be chucked given that better vaccines are clearly available. J&J is questionable. It seems to have been dropped simply by losing momentum after its pause, which was the admirable thing to do. I guess no good deed goes unpunished. The message to drug companies from the J&J experience is, if there's any hint of a problem, keep your mouth shut and keep the shit flowing.

The J&J vaccine might have been OK. We'll probably never know because they took the responsible step of pausing.

The J&J vaccine might have been OK. We'll probably never know because they took the responsible step of pausing.

To clarify, one could argue that J&J shouldn't have been authorized as well, not having completed Phase 3 trials. But aside from that, all else being equal, it holds, or held, great promise because it was a one-shot vaccine that could be stored in a refrigerator, providing a huge benefit to impoverished or otherwise poorly equipped populations.

It's odd that AZ is getting so much international media attention, but it is the one getting passed off to countries in need, of course.

In a sort of related event, the US FDA approved an Alzheimer's drug that is just, shit. It can cause all sorts of problems, and it has not been shown to be affective. And, it's going to cost the taxpayers billions of dollars.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-the-fda-approved-a-controversial-alzheimers-drug

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEHwa_HFm7wfV_eIC2VReRw8qMwgEKioIACIQpzoRSNLEm6QR--...

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEKyNTTwdIn_ttZo0GO8ZptQqFggEKg4IACoGCAowjKxcMOvhCz...

This is symptomatic of a very broken system. People can't even get basic health care in the US. Everyday health problems are making people homeless, literally, and yet the govt OK's these high cost, useless drugs that will cost taxpayers -- money that could have been spent on basic health care.

In a sort of related event, the US FDA approved an Alzheimer's drug that is just, shit. It can cause all sorts of problems, and it has not been shown to be effective. And, it's going to cost the taxpayers billions of dollars.

This is symptomatic of a very broken system. People can't even get basic health care in the US. Everyday health problems are making people homeless, literally, and yet the govt OK's these high cost, useless drugs that will cost taxpayers -- money that could have been spent on basic health care.

Yeah, i noticed that one too. That smacks of corruption.

I also wonder how many effective therapeutic drugs have been left in the lab test tubes due to all the noise around finding a vaccine.

The biggest lesson we can learn from history is - we don't learn lessons from history. The experts simply reposition, cover their arses, make some lame excuses, then carry on.

John Skerritt, Therapeutic Goods Administration: Of the total 60 (adverse cases) reported in last cut off date, we actually hadn't had all that many in their 50s and suddenly we were seeing this worrying trend.

We do a weekly assessment of cases of any adverse events and what was remarkable in the cases received between June 11 and June 17 ... we had seven out of 12 new cases occurring in their fifties.

More nonsense. There's nothing sudden about the news that AZ causes blood clots - in any age group. That info has been there since AZ was first rolled out in Europe many months ago whereupon most countries suspended/banned it.

Yes, the TGA 'suddenly decided to see' the data, and belatedly cover their arses by upping the age limit, but it's silly to argue that blood clots are a 'remarkable' new phenomenon.

The thing is, now Australia is in a situation where around 300 000 people in their 50's have had the first shot of AZ - what should they do now?

There's talk of 'mix n match' with Pfizer, but that's more untested craziness.

The TGA is still encouraging 50-60's to get their second AZ dose due to their "risk- benefit equation". How many of the above are going to be on the wrong side of that equation?

As mentioned, it's hard to find trustworthy figures on vaccine deaths, but Korea is reporting about 1 in 7000 amongst those over 75.

Not saying there's any link - just that this is one to keep an eye on.

TT: The death of a two-month-old baby on Tuesday most likely was due to sudden infant death syndrome, rather than from drinking mother’s milk after the child’s mother got vaccinated against COVID-19 on Monday, doctors have said.

Responding to the mother’s speculation that the AstraZeneca vaccine had contaminated her breast milk, leading to the death of her child, (CECC's) Lee Ping-ing (李秉穎) said that no country in the world deems COVID-19 vaccines unsafe for breastfeeding mothers.

Yeah, if only we could trust the world health authorities to tell us the truth! That's the problem when you lied to us about human-to-human transmission, masks, airborne transmission, and the lab-leak - it's hard to believe you anymore.

Although no studies have been done with Covid vaccines, there is, according to this paper a suspected link between some vaccines and SIDS, especially the flu shot:

This study retrospectively investigated vaccination-related details and postmortem findings for 57 cases of sudden death in children 2 years or younger. Of the 32 cases in which any vaccines were administered, 7 infants (21.9%) had received immunization within 7 days of death. The most frequent vaccine cited as the last immunization before death was Haemophilus influenzae B.

(I)n 2011, 7 fatal incidents occurred in short order after combined immunization with Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) and Streptococcus pneumoniae vaccines in Japan. Because some relation was suspected, vaccination was discontinued temporarily.

The paper also reports on two separate cases where twins died shortly after vaccinations were administered. If twins die suddenly - you've got to suspect some relationship with the vaccine.

WHO: SAGE does not recommend discontinuing breastfeeding after vaccination. More evidence is being sought in order to further inform WHO’s policy recommendations on this subject.

Dr. Robert Malone, one of the researchers who discovered the mRNA technology, has had a video discussing the risks of Covid vaccines blocked on Youtube.

Malone: [O]ne of my concerns are that the government is not being transparent with us about what those risks are. (P)eople have the right to decide whether to accept vaccines or not, especially since these are experimental vaccines.

This is a fundamental right having to do with clinical research ethics ..my concern is I know there are risks. But we don't have access to the data and the data haven't been captured rigorously enough so that we can accurately assess those risks – therefore … we don't have the information we need to make a reasonable decision.

(W)e talk about these words 'risk-benefit analysis' casually as if it is very deep science. It's not. Normally at this stage, the CDC would have performed those risk-benefit analyses and they would be database and science-based. They are not right now.

I can say that the risk-benefit ratio for those 18 and below doesn't justify vaccines and there's a pretty good chance that it doesn't justify vaccination in these very young adults.

Well, we can safely say the powers-that-be have in no way been chastened by being caught out suppressing the truth over Covid's origin. They're gonna keep on going for it. Who's to stop them?

Banning Malone talking about mRNA vaccines is like banning Hawking from talking about black holes. What the hell is going on?

This is incredible and very disturbing. I found the full interview here: https://seed132.bitchute.com/gh6mG8k0Vxr0/TH2HAmTp40xq.mp4

Here's a YouTube video that will probably get deleted that discusses this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC7_pRidnZ0.

I've downloaded them both.

This is incredible and very disturbing. I found the full interview here: https://seed132.bitchute.com/gh6mG8k0Vxr0/TH2HAmTp40xq.mp4

This is 3+ hour interview that I've started and so far it's very engaging.

Here's a YouTube video that will probably get deleted that discusses this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC7_pRidnZ0.

This video touches on some high points of the long interview. One of the clips the host shares includes Dr. Malone referring (at around 5 minutes in) to the spike protein which is supposed to remain in only the cells it initially affects, coming loose, if I'm understanding him correctly, and putting up shop in other parts of the body.

"...revealing that spike gets cleaved off of the expressed cells and becomes free..."

There's also mention in this video of negative episodes happening weeks or months after the vaccine.

One of the clips the host shares includes Dr. Malone referring (at around 5 minutes in) to the spike protein which is supposed to remain in only the cells it initially affects, coming loose, if I'm understanding him correctly, and putting up shop in other parts of the body.

"...revealing that spike gets cleaved off of the expressed cells and becomes free..."

There's also mention in this video of negative episodes happening weeks or months after the vaccine.

Mr. Google: This video has been removed for violating YouTube's Community Guidelines.

Malone comes across as knowledgeable, analytical - not pre-programmed. He expresses safety concerns about the mass-application of mRNA vacs on the planet. That violates Mr. Google's Guidelines for the Community? What kind of Community are you guiding us into exactly?

Now that AZ is dead as a brand - Moderna and Pfizer are positioned to dominate.
In Australia people are gagging for Pfizer - in Taiwan it's Moderna - a tycoon booked the entire business class section of a plane (they kicked the others off) for his family to fly to the US to get their coveted mRNA shots.

I've watched about half of the 3-hour interview and will save the other half for tomorrow. The themes that struck me the most so far are:

*There is no coherent set of data on the side effects of these vaccines. The CDC is overwhelmed, understaffed, and unable to collect and collate data.

*What data there is is not made available to researchers. Again, "Just take our word for it."

*The spike protein that is meant to stay within the cells into which it is injected does not do that. They spread throughout the body, reaching every organ but particularly concentrating in the ovaries.

*There are widely reported side effects that are not being recorded or that are not being acknowledged as being caused by the vaccine. Many of these effects are happening in a delayed fashion, which is unusual for vaccines, further confusing data collection and interpretation.

*There is broad censorship in the media, professionally, and socially against any discussion or questioning of the safety of these vaccines.

*Treatments and preventive medicines that are cheap and safe, such as Ivermectin, have been hidden from public knowledge and debate because they will cut into the profits of newer, more expensive drugs being rolled out.

And that's just a start.

Thanks for the analysis! 3 hrs is a big commitment!

*Treatments and preventive medicines that are cheap and safe, such as Ivermectin, have been hidden from public knowledge and debate because they will cut into the profits of newer, more expensive drugs being rolled out.

This is one of the most scandalous things about the whole vaccine circus. Not enough attention has been paid to therapeutics like Ivermectin. All we need to do is reduce the severity of Covid in the most vulnerable - it seems to show promise - without the scary side effects.

From a study published in American Journal of Therapeutics: Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally

As you say, sidelining/suppressing such drugs is all about money - can't think of any other reason.

What does that say about the state of moral degradation we find ourselves in? It's like Daszak and Lipkin et al all over again - they must be incredibly confident there will never be a reckoning coz if they are held to account then we're talking serious criminal charges.

Young, unvaccinated, over 50 or just had one dose? You’re most at risk from the Covid delta variant

This has got to be one of the stupidest headlines I've seen in a long time. Either they've screwed up their syntax, or this means everybody is most at risk. Let's break this down:

Who is most at risk?

1. The unvaccinated
2. Everyone over 50
3. Everyone who has just had one dose

Isn't that essentially everybody except those under 50 who have had both doses? And doesn't this explicitly imply that everyone over 50 is most at risk even if they're fully vaccinated?

The article itself is not much better:

Number crunching the latest data from England, 92,029 cases were analyzed between early February and mid-June and were attributed to the delta variant.

Almost 82,500 of these total cases were recorded in people under 50 years old and a majority (53,822 cases) were found in unvaccinated individuals.

Among those cases in the unvaccinated cohort, the vast majority were in the under-50 age group (52,846 cases) and only 976 cases were in the over-50s. (emphasis added)

First of all, could it be that a majority of people under 50 are unvaccinated, and without that figure, stating that, "...were recorded in people under 50 years old and a majority (53,822 cases) were found in unvaccinated individuals" is meaningless if it turns out that a majority of that group are unvaccinated to begin with. They write this to imply that these people under 50 got the virus because they were unvaccinated, but that's not sound logic, not without more data.

Also, could it be that this strain prefers young people rather than, as I think the article is trying to imply, younger people are getting it because they're less likely to be vaccinated? The whole article is a mess of useless information.

The whole article is a mess of useless information.

Read the article - i don't know what their point is either. Mostly i assume the media is slanted in favour of Covid vaccines - due to their 'higher-truth' thinking on behalf of all of us plebs.

The big test will come with the northern hemisphere winter. If you look at the 'waves', they go down in summer and up in winter. UK deaths now are similar to what they were last summer.

Meanwhile, the federal govt is back encouraging people of all ages to get AZ - under the guise of "informed consent".

Recap:
1. Aus signs deal to manufacture AZ - starts roll-out, no age-limit
2. Belatedly acknowledges blood clot side effect, introduces 'age-guideline' of AZ for over 50's
3. Due to an "increase in blood clots" (rubbish - the rate hasn't changed) a new age-limit was introduced recommending AZ to over 60's (btw, i'm not seeing that blood clots are more likely in the young or old - it's the "risk-benefit equation")
4. Fed scraps age-limit for AZ again, encouraging all to get it if they want it (with 'informed consent'). Declares a nation-wide 'doctor indemnity' to protect doctors administering it.

It's hard to think of a greater shemozzle.

The big test will come with the northern hemisphere winter. If you look at the 'waves', they go down in summer and up in winter. UK deaths now are similar to what they were last summer.

Meanwhile in Japan, rates of infection just came off the highest numbers yet, since the pandemic began, and now they're heading back up with over 700 cases in Tokyo alone yesterday. Oh, with the Olympics about to start.

Fall and winter are right around the corner. I agree that this northern hemisphere winter will be very telling. 2021 is already shot, so the question is, what does 2022 hold in store for us?

Here's a whole new serious side effect.

Health Europa: Clinicians in India and England have reported cases of a rare neurological disorder called Guillain-Barre syndrome after individuals were vaccinated against COVID-19.

Seven cases were reported from a regional medical centre in Kerala, India, where around 1.2 million people were vaccinated with the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine. A further four cases were reported from Nottingham, England, in an area in which approximately 700,000 people received the same vaccine.

Annals of Neurology: All seven patients developed severe GBS. The frequency of GBS was 1.4 to 10-fold higher than that expected in this period for a population of this magnitude. In addition, the frequency of bilateral facial weakness, which typically occurs in less than 20% of GBS cases, suggests a pattern associated with the vaccination.

While the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risk of this relatively rare outcome (5.8 per million), clinicians should be alert to this possible adverse event, as six out of seven patients progressed to areflexic quadriplegia and required mechanical ventilatory support.

Why are reports of this only surfacing now? That's one in 172 000 jabs - so given the scale of the vaccination rollout that must already add up to a decent number.

A lot of doctors are big pro-vaxxers - can we rely on them to accurately report side effects? Or will tend to under-report because they don't want to add to vaccine hesitancy?

While the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risk of this relatively rare outcome (5.8 per million), clinicians should be alert to this possible adverse event, as six out of seven patients progressed to areflexic quadriplegia and required mechanical ventilatory support.

Wait... isn't that exactly what they're trying to prevent?

With reference to your question about why this is only now being reported, I believe in that interview with Dr. Malone, the other guest made a reference to a Facebook group for people harmed by the vaccine, which had over 200,000 members as I recall, was deleted by Facebook. That certainly doesn't help.

They also talked about the dysfunctional state of the reporting system in the US.

Michelle Ananda-Rajah, infectious diseases expert: I think (we need 80% vaccination) in order to achieve anything close to herd immunity, which is proving harder and harder because we’re dealing with these highly contagious variants. Generally speaking when you have more contagious variants you need to have much broader and much higher vaccine coverage.

It makes sense, right, in order to keep this thing out. I don’t know that we’re going to achieve herd immunity with this generation of vaccines but it is definitely something we could aim for with the next generation of vaccines as well.

Here we go. We're being groomed again for the failure of the current crop of vaccines but that's ok coz now we have the 'next generation of vaccines'!

Michelle Ananda-Rajah: The main thing, though, is that we need, we need massive uptake with the population. Virtually every adult that can be vaccinated should be. And we also need to vaccinate children. That is the key.

We have seen what has happened in other jurisdictions and you don’t vaccinate children. There are massive outbreaks in schools and that’s happened in Singapore, it’s happened in Israel and happened in the US. Hence these jurisdictions they are now vaccinating children.

This is what happens when myopic health experts are given the keys to the car. We're herded into this tail-chasing policy, without regard to long term consequences. Forcibly vaccinating kids - and it will be forced onto them coz they can't give proper consent - will cause thousands of severe side-effects/deaths amongst our youth.

This is where their 'risk-benefit equation' becomes murkier. You could maybe argue the benefit for society overall about forcing kids to get vaccinated - i don't think it's sound, but you could possibly argue it - but you can't argue that the benefit outweighs the risk for the actual kids. Virtually zero risk of severe illness from Covid but significant risk from receiving successive 'generations' of vaccines.

This is where their 'risk-benefit equation' becomes murkier. You could maybe argue the benefit for society overall about forcing kids to get vaccinated - i don't think it's sound, but you could possibly argue it - but you can't argue that the benefit outweighs the risk for the actual kids. Virtually zero risk of severe illness from Covid but significant risk from receiving successive 'generations' of vaccines.

Well put. I've been listening to the 2nd half of the Malone podcast, and there are some points made that are particularly relevant to administering these mRNA vaccines to children.

First, at around 2:22.00, they discuss that the novel lipids used in the vaccine (or the spike protein, can't remember which) quickly travel throughout the body (like they weren't supposed to) and lodge in different places at different rates.

The highest concentrations are in the ovaries. The second highest is in the bone marrow. Malone discussed the possibility that this could indeed lead to bone marrow disease (i.e., leukemia), but that probably wouldn't happen for a few years after vaccination. They talked about how this is an example of one reason why vaccines typically take many years to develop -- because it can take years for unknowns to become known.

The possibility of leukemia is of a particular concern for children, of course, because they'll be living long enough for any potentiality to manifest.

At around 2:28.00 or so they discuss this concentration in the ovaries with an eye towards what happened with thalidomide, which did actually have animal trials. Apparently, some of these reproductive problems can take a generation to manifest.

I assumed the second half of the interview would be less dramatic than the first, but it just keeps getting worse (or better, as a podcast, if you want to look at it that way.)

So, yes, giving this to children is criminal.

Michigan teen dies after getting COVID-19 vaccine; CDC investigating

The death of a Michigan teen after he received a COVID-19 vaccine is being investigated by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, a spokeswoman for the agency told The Detroit News on Friday.

The language being used with regards to this death is troubling. Let's take a look.

CDC spokeswoman Jade Fulce: "While some reported adverse events may be caused by vaccination, others are not and may have occurred coincidentally."

Adverse event? Yes, I would say death qualifies as that. You get the euphemism of the week award. Well done Jade!

Dr. Russell Bush, the medical examiner for Saginaw County: "We are currently looking at toxicology, tissue reports, blood work," said Bush. "There will be discussions with the CDC and Michigan Department of Health and Human Services. Obviously, everyone is concerned with this case. We're doing everything we can as far as testing and looking at potential problems related to the young man's death."Bush said it's going to be a "fairly long time" before that work is done and tests results come back.

Wow, thanks for the specific timeline Russ! Hey, take your time. If you take long enough, we all might forget this happened and you can just let it go.

Federal officials have raised cautions about a rare side effect of some COVID-19 vaccines — chest pain and heart inflammation, mostly among teens and young adults.

The problem appears to be most common in young men after they receive their second of two doses, but it is nevertheless rare overall: There have been 323 confirmed reports of the inflammation in people younger than 30, and the vast majority recovered from their symptoms.

The "vast majority" recovered? So.. for those who didn't "recover", what's their story? Heart problems for life? Brain damage? Death?

That risk “seems to me, and to many others, to be much lower than the risk of COVID,” said Dr. Brian Feingold, a University of Pittsburgh heart specialist.

This... this is absolute bullshit. These kids have virtually 0 chance of dying from COVID. How can they make such statements?

“The facts are clear: this is an extremely rare side effect, and only an exceedingly small number of people will experience it after vaccination. Importantly, for the young people who do, most cases are mild, and individuals recover often on their own or with minimal treatment,” the statement said.

Again, don't bother us with details or statistics. They're so messy and anti-social. I would like to know what "minimal treatment" is. Does that include hospitalization?

“The facts are clear: this is an extremely rare side effect, and only an exceedingly small number of people will experience it after vaccination. Importantly, for the young people who do, most cases are mild, and individuals recover often on their own or with minimal treatment,” the statement said.

Again, don't bother us with details or statistics. They're so messy and anti-social. I would like to know what "minimal treatment" is. Does that include hospitalization?

Hahaha. Some of the language used is actually very funny - if it weren't so serious. As you describe, the journalist does everything possible to bury details then finishes with 'the facts are clear'!

Another common one i hear is that 'you've got more chance of being struck by lightning than dying of a vaccine shot'. Unless there's been a huge surge in lightning deaths recently, that can't be true - just in Australia we've had three confirmed AZ deaths in the last couple of months - then there's another 60+ hospitalizations - some in serious condition. Then there's all the ones we don't hear about. And this is just the short-term side-effects.

Or they'll point out that the 5000 suspected deaths reported through MAERS (and counting) in the States sounds like a lot but it's only a tiny percentage considering the number of shots.

Don't remember anyone saying 'Oh don't worry about the 911 deaths - 3000 is just a tiny percentage of the overall population!'

It looks like they're hoping this case will just be forgotten about. The following from an NBC News station:

The Saginaw County Medical Examiner tells Mid-Michigan now it may be several months until a cause of death is determined due to toxicology results.

Mid-Michigan NOW asked the CDC when we know the exact cause of death of the 13-year-old and we received the following statement:

Normally when CDC meets with the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (the next schedule meeting will be posted here: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/index.html it reports its findings, in a summary fashion, not by individual cases; CDC will also be publishing a paper in MMWR on myocarditis. I don’t have a target date for that paper yet.

This website is also updated with new information on several conditions that CDC is closely monitoring, like anaphylaxis, thrombosis with thrombocytopenia and myocarditis: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

Several months? How can that be?

I tried the links given. They don't work.

Normally when CDC meets with the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (the next schedule meeting will be posted here: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/index.html it reports its findings, in a summary fashion, not by individual cases; CDC will also be publishing a paper in MMWR on myocarditis. I don’t have a target date for that paper yet.

This website is also updated with new information on several conditions that CDC is closely monitoring, like anaphylaxis, thrombosis with thrombocytopenia and myocarditis: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html[/i]

Several months? How can that be?

I tried the links given. They don't work.

The above reads like a how-to manual on burying adverse reports. The scary thing is this is not some capitalist corporation trying to fudge the paperwork to dodge taxes - it's the official reporting system of our publicly funded health experts.

Meanwhile:

ABC: The UK has become the first nation in the world to plan a third round of COVID-19 vaccinations for vulnerable Britons, with a booster program that would shore up resistance to the virus ahead of winter.

Here we go with the booster shots. This is evidence that even the most ardent pro-vaxxers admit that vaccines are not a long term solution - just a stop-gap - followed by another stop-gap - and so on.

It also means that all those side-effects we've been cataloging can now be multiplied by a booster shot.

In the course of my usual morning news browse, I came across this on one of those fact check sites:

Flawed Paper on COVID-19 Vaccines, Deaths Spreads Widely Before Retraction

I took a look, yes, yadda yadda... "..a paper.." yadda yadda, "...the paper..." yadda yadda, but no mention of the title of the paper! Not one, not a single reference to the actual title of the paper. So my first question is, what is the point of this so called article? In essence, due to any specificity, it calls into question any and every "paper on covid-19 vaccines" that doesn't agree with the narrative.

Fortunately, in their sources, because apparently they still have some lingering shred of accountability, they were forced to include the source of the retraction, and that source, in it's title, included the title of the paper:

“Retraction: Walach et al. The Safety of COVID-19 Vaccinations—We Should Rethink the Policy. Vaccines 2021, 9, 693.” Vaccines Editorial Office. 2 Jul 2021.

The paper itself can be found here

The retraction is clear enough and it does lay reasonable grounds for retraction, but it also raises some important areas of concern.

The full retraction reads:

The journal retracts the article, The Safety of COVID-19 Vaccinations—We Should Rethink the Policy [1], cited above.

Serious concerns were brought to the attention of the publisher regarding misinterpretation of data, leading to incorrect and distorted conclusions.

The article was evaluated by the Editor-in-Chief with the support of several Editorial Board Members. They found that the article contained several errors that fundamentally affect the interpretation of the findings.

These include, but are not limited to:

The data from the Lareb report (https://www.lareb.nl/coronameldingen) in The Netherlands were used to calculate the number of severe and fatal side effects per 100,000 vaccinations. Unfortunately, in the manuscript by Harald Walach et al. these data were incorrectly interpreted which led to erroneous conclusions. The data was presented as being causally related to adverse events by the authors. This is inaccurate. In The Netherlands, healthcare professionals and patients are invited to report suspicions of adverse events that may be associated with vaccination. For this type of reporting a causal relation between the event and the vaccine is not needed, therefore a reported event that occurred after vaccination is not necessarily attributable to vaccination. Thus, reporting of a death following vaccination does not imply that this is a vaccine-related event. There are several other inaccuracies in the paper by Harald Walach et al. one of which is that fatal cases were certified by medical specialists. It should be known that even this false claim does not imply causation, which the authors imply. Further, the authors have called the events ‘effects’ and ‘reactions’ when this is not established, and until causality is established they are ‘events’ that may or may not be caused by exposure to a vaccine. It does not matter what statistics one may apply, this is incorrect and misleading.

The authors were asked to respond to the claims, but were not able to do so satisfactorily. The authors were notified of the retraction and did not agree.

So it appears the retraction was based on sound science. The problem is, nobody appears to be actually, aggressively researching to what extent there is a causative relationship between the vaccines and reported adverse events. With regards to this boy who died, we're told it will be MONTHS before we know the cause of his death. Months. So I presume it's going to be years before any sort of major study is done, if at all, on all these reports of adverse events.

Of course, this is what should have been done before the vaccines were thrust upon the world. I'm afraid we'll never really know the truth.

The problem is, nobody appears to be actually, aggressively researching to what extent there is a causative relationship between the vaccines and reported adverse events.

That's the crux of it. It's the same with the MAERS reporting system in the US. The authorities say 'Oh, it can't be trusted coz of this and that reason' - but where the hell is the reporting system for adverse events that can be trusted? It's buried in a 3-month 'investigation' process conducted by pro-vaxxers that somehow never ends up seeing the light of day.

Those 'Fact Checking' sites really get on my goat. Here's an example of the sort of propaganda they were pushing:

PolitiFact, for example, on May 24 quietly retracted a September 2020 fact check that labeled a Hong Kong virologist’s claim that COVID-19 originated in a lab as a “debunked conspiracy theory.”

"The claim is inaccurate and ridiculous. We rate it Pants on Fire!”

ABC: A study published earlier this year in The Lancet found that a single dose of AstraZeneca is 76 per cent effective in the first 90 days.

Firstly, from the moment Lancet published Daszak's 'Lancet Statement' about the CCP being "open and transparent", their credibility in relation to Covid went down the toilet - forever. I'm not gonna bother reading it - i'll bet my farm though that it's not relevant to the Delta variant - which is what Covid is now.

Receiving a second dose 12 weeks or more after the first can kick this protection up to 82.4 per cent. But this efficacy dropped to around 55 per cent if the second jab was given less than six weeks after the first, the study found.

Then somehow, from there, the article goes onto argue:

As the highly contagious Delta variant takes hold in many parts of the world, including the UK, health authorities have decided to reduce the interval between AstraZeneca vaccines from 12 weeks to eight weeks for people aged 40 and above.

Kylie Quinn, a vaccine expert at RMIT, agreed that giving the AstraZeneca jab at eight weeks still provided "pretty decent levels of protection".

"It makes good sense to try and build people's immunity up to a decent level quicker, and perhaps accept a slightly lower level of antibody responses," Dr Quinn said.

What doesn't make sense is flooding the world with partially effective vaccines. For God's sake - think it through! We know partially effective vaccines will only succeed in driving the virus to mutate - now you're devising ways to make AZ less effective?

"It's [about] understanding those trade offs and understanding what's best for that particular population."

That's half right - understanding the trade-offs - especially when you're manufacturing the stuff - but has nothing to do with what's 'best for the population'.

The rest of the article goes onto plug 'mix n match'!

PolitiFact, for example, on May 24 quietly retracted a September 2020 fact check that labeled a Hong Kong virologist’s claim that COVID-19 originated in a lab as a “debunked conspiracy theory.”

The American Thought Leaders program cited in that article is excellent. They discuss censorship with regards to COVID at length and speculate on why it's happening, with on motive simply being money.

It's an outstanding interview and Weinstein comes off as a balanced, objective, rational person who is just asking the logical questions, among them why the scientific method is not being followed in academia or government and why any discussion of anything the least bit threatening to the pharmaceutical industry is now censored by all power centers in our society.

He's clearly not anti-vax, clearly pro-science. This is a very tame, reasonable interview, and yet it would likely be banned from YouTube and Facebook. What's going on? And the US is celebrating July 4. So much for independence and free speech!

why is scientific method not being followed in academia or government and why (are) any discussion of anything the least bit threatening to the pharmaceutical industry now (being) censored by all power centers in our society?

All the while having the temerity to yell at/censor people for not 'following the science'! As you say, there's nothing too mysterious about their motives - money, power - the mind-boggling part is the depth and breadth of the influence they've acquired.

I remember Brian (pre-Covid) would pull anyone up for using 'they' - he'd want to know who's 'they'? It was a fair enough point - he was trying to stop the discussion from becoming a generalized rant against a nameless 'they'. I'd also challenge 'conspiracy theorists' by asking how on earth do you get so many people - from opposite sides of the political divide - to keep a secret about whatever the conspiracy of the day was?

But if you look at it as a cultural phenomenon then it starts to make sense. If you control the culture, then that takes care of all those moving parts - they're all working in unison in a self-reinforcing way. Those that do speak out are marginalized and censored.

There's something rotten in scientific culture. This rotteness didn't drop out of the sky with Covid - it's connected to a decades long infiltration by the CCP as well as homegrown power-centralization forces - Covid has activated it around a common cause. For their next trick the plan is to shrug off being caught out lying about Covid and just steam-roll on.

He's clearly not anti-vax, clearly pro-science. This is a very tame, reasonable interview, and yet it would likely be banned from YouTube and Facebook. What's going on? And the US is celebrating July 4. So much for independence and free speech!

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I remember Brian (pre-Covid) would pull anyone up for using 'they' - he'd want to know who's 'they'? It was a fair enough point - he was trying to stop the discussion from becoming a generalized rant against a nameless 'they'. I'd also challenge 'conspiracy theorists' by asking how on earth do you get so many people - from opposite sides of the political divide - to keep a secret about whatever the conspiracy of the day was?

You remember anything from those days?

But it's a good point. We should refrain from using 'they', unless we're referring to a person who has chosen such as their preferred pronoun! (I have argued for years for using 'they' as a gender neutral 1st person pronoun because, well, we've been doing it for centuries in our speech. i.e.: If somebody asks me the time, of course I'd give it to them!)

Weinstein does define who they are. They are first and foremost the big pharma. Then the CDC, and lastly the social media giants. He uses a term 'capture', referring to how industry can control these entities and have them do their bidding. He also raises a question of how they managed to do it with regards to COVID vaccines, and his conclusion is money. There's no other explanation.

I guess I'll have another drink just for old times!

But if you look at it as a cultural phenomenon then it starts to make sense. If you control the culture, then that takes care of all those moving parts - they're all working in unison in a self-reinforcing way. Those that do speak out are marginalized and censored.

University of Chile study: Our results indicate that mutations present in the spike protein of the Lambda variant of interest confer increased infectivity and immune escape from neutralizing antibodies elicited by CoronaVac.

WHO: Further studies are … required to validate the continued effectiveness of vaccines.

The old 'further studies' line. Still waiting to see proper studies on the Delta variant.

I guess I'll have another drink just for old times!

Confident we'll get that drink in one day - might be the 'cafe at the end of the universe' but we'll get there ...

This ad depicts a young person (20's?) suffocating as she potentially dies from Covid. It's spruiking vaccination. All the media platforms are plugging it. Aus Govt recently advised that anyone of any age could get the AZ jab - whilst wiping legal culpability from doctors administering it.

Makes sense in a macabre way - we've got CSL churning it out but can't shift it - let's get into that untapped market - the youth.

How we gonna do that?

The usual way - a scare/misinformation campaign.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-nsw-updates-graphic-new-covid-19-advertis...

Good God, that's some crazy shit! I think it's fair to say that that ad grossly, perhaps completely, misrepresents what someone under 30 experiences with COVID, and generally misrepresents what the entire population who gets it experiences.

No mention of the threat of heart inflammation due to the vaccine I see...

Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation: In the context of a Covid-19 outbreak where the supply of Comirnaty (Pfizer) is constrained, adults younger than 60 years old, who do not have immediate access to Comirnaty (Pfizer), should reassess the benefits to them and their contacts from being vaccinated with Covid-19 vaccine AstraZeneca, versus the rare risk of a serious side effect.

Recap of ATAGI's 'evolving' advice re AZ in recent months:

1. Recommended for all ages - 3 mths btw shots
2. Rec for over-50's only
3. Rec for over-60's only
4. Rec for all ages - 2 mths btw shots

Interesting to see the Pfizer rebranding. Pfizer is a company, the vaccine being one of thousands of drugs they produce, so it's normal to have a brand name - but curious why it comes now?

'Comirnaty'? Weird name - sounds too similar to 'Communist Party'.

Whatever, the outlook is rosy - the company raised its forecast estimate for 2021 profits from the jab by 70% - to a cool 26 bil. Then it keeps rolling in from there...

Albert Bourla, Chief Executive: Based on what we've seen, we believe that a durable demand for our COVID-19 vaccine – similar to that of the flu vaccines – is a likely outcome.

UK recorded 50 deaths on July 13, 2021 - which is 5 times more than the 10 deaths on July 13, 2020 - when no one was vaccinated.

If it was 5 times less deaths the pro-vaxxers would be trumpeting the headline: 'Vaccines reduce deaths 5-fold!'

Doubt we'll see the media printing the actual stats though.

The scary part is that this is the middle of summer in the UK - how's it gonna go in winter?

Meanwhile, East Asia is experiencing records numbers of infections in spite of vaccination.

The northern fall and winter of 2021-22 will be very telling.

Taiwan News: In another dispiriting setback for the nation’s efforts to stamp out the coronavirus, scientists who studied a big COVID-19 outbreak in Massachusetts concluded that vaccinated people who got so-called breakthrough infections carried about the same amount of the coronavirus as those who did not get the shots. .. About three-quarters of them were people who were fully vaccinated.

Separately:

Leaked internal documents on breakthrough infections and the delta variant suggest the CDC may be considering other changes in advice on how the nation fights the coronavirus, such as recommending masks for everyone and requiring vaccines for doctors and other health workers.

The documents appear to be talking points for CDC staff to use with the public. One point advised: “Acknowledge the war has changed,”

In the report, the measure researchers used to assess how much virus an infected person is carrying does not indicate whether they are actually transmitting the virus to other people, said Dr. Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at the University of Saskatchewan

Angela Rasmussen - she was a leading no-lab-leak activist. One of those where you can basically take the opposite of what she says to be true.

If the current vaccines don't work - i wonder how much appetite there will be for the boosters? Are you going to get 80% of the world to re-jab?

This was big headline news today in the US as well:

Study: Vaccinated people can carry as much virus as others

The findings have the potential to upend past thinking about how the disease is spread. Previously, vaccinated people who got infected were thought to have low levels of virus and to be unlikely to pass it to others. But the new data shows that is not the case with the delta variant.

The delta variant, first detected in India, causes infections that are more contagious than the common cold, flu, smallpox and the Ebola virus, and it is as infectious as chickenpox, according to the documents, which mentioned the Provincetown cases.

'The war has changed,' CDC says, calling for new response to Delta variant

An internal CDC document said the variant, first detected in India and now dominant across the globe, is as contagious as chickenpox and far more contagious than the common cold or flu. It can be passed on even by vaccinated people, and may cause more serious disease than earlier coronavirus strains.

And we're coming off summer holidays in the northern hemisphere, the Olympics, and heading in to the school year. Just before this new wave in Japan, we had a four day national holiday, and people were out and stores were packed.

As I've said before, the next 6-8 months will tell us a lot about where this is going.

This dude has some interesting criticisms of all aspects of the establishment's Covid strategy - says we're standing at the 'gates of hell'.

'I knew i was being lied to - by scientists - government minister's on the TV... it's completely fraudulent'

'What i found i was getting was - censorship - insults - really quite unpleasant stuff on Twitter - people would be assigned to come and write insulting hateful things about you - there was no way people were willing to engage scientifically with you'

Very strong words from an ex-insider!

He gives weight to things we've discussed before - especially the situation where the 'conspiracy theorists' are presenting scientific details/evidence, begging people to engage on that level, but the scientists are responding with irrational abuse and censorship.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/9Ci2jK1yFoOd/?fbclid=IwAR0slsh9e4NMuBJ0ZHVmyeeyYgsMnUux3...

I would have a few points of difference with Yeadon

1. There is evidence that masks work - quite a lot - the mystery to me was why WHO and all the CDC chiefs were saying don't wear masks in the embryonic period - when masks represent a cheap, effective, easily accessible line of defense.

2. Lockdowns also seem effective - i disagree with them as a strategy coz it's like saying the only cure for Covid is totalitarianism - Covid becomes a demonstration of how we need totalitarianism to 'save us' in the new normal.

Apart from that it's an interesting case study of how the science community 'ate their own' in a frightening world of censorship and vilification.

Very interesting indeed. The biggest takeaway from this video for me is, once again, the level of censorship in our media. What is the logic behind censoring someone who clearly has the credentials and experience to provide an expert opinion?

And if we're not even given the chance to discuss his views (or all those of all the others who are being silenced), in our major media outlets, then basically there is no debate happening, no discussion, no exploration of viewpoints other than those that toe the official line. In short, we've become China.

1. There is evidence that masks work - quite a lot - the mystery to me was why WHO and all the CDC chiefs were saying don't wear masks in the embryonic period - when masks represent a cheap, effective, easily accessible line of defense.

I agree. See, we can watch the video and disagree with him! And agree with other of his claims! Amazing!

2. Lockdowns also seem effective - i disagree with them as a strategy coz it's like saying the only cure for Covid is totalitarianism - Covid becomes a demonstration of how we need totalitarianism to 'save us' in the new normal.

You could argue they're effective at reducing transmission, but the question for me is, is the cost worth it? How many people will die of other things as a result of lockdowns? Domestic violence, overdose, increased poverty, mental illness...

He made a brief mention of these vaccines perhaps being for population control, or something to that effect. I disagree with this as well since there's strong evidence that population is going to decrease naturally. This is already happening in all developed countries. And besides, the masters of the universe could always use good old fashioned war to thin the herd.

I think, once again, it all comes back to money and power, money for big pharma, power for the ultra wealthy.

You could argue they're effective at reducing transmission, but the question for me is, is the cost worth it? How many people will die of other things as a result of lockdowns? Domestic violence, overdose, increased poverty, mental illness...

That logic applies to a lot of helter skelter decisions that are being made with media coralling everyone into accepting/complying - even cheering. This is an important period in the history of intelligent animals - we need to think this through before catapulting humanity into this or that . Get an idea of the consequences. Wrong/politically motivated decisions designed to whip up this or that mob could easily cost the world the hard won rights to freedoms. Lots of people died fighting for that - got persecuted. Freedoms are like gardening - hard to get the bed started - pretty easy to maintain thereafter - but even easier to let it slip back to being overgrown by weeds.

Take a look at Hong Kong now - human rights voices shutdown - heroic respected citizens jailed. Nobody cares. That's the future if we don't fight this.

And besides, the masters of the universe could always use good old fashioned war to thin the herd.

How about a new-fashioned coronavirus? Kills off the weak ones - can be used to justify whatever...?

Yeadon also makes the mistake of saying 'I'm a scientist - therefore i'm right!' This is a large part of the problem - the culture of empiricism. Philosophers - the same dudes who invented all the freedoms we have, including democracy, also pointed out the flaws of empiricism as a philosophy. (a) we never have all the information - there's too much of it (b) it breeds a tendency to insist you're right (because you're an empiricist) and shut down other voices - which is anti-knowledge.

Yes, scientists have their uses - they're great - but can't be trusted to make big societal decisions - coz they're always missing a piece of the puzzle

Unless the world starts listening to other voices besides One Health scientist - and power-maniacs - we really will be fucked.

How about a new-fashioned coronavirus? Kills off the weak ones - can be used to justify whatever...?

That had crossed my mind, that perhaps one motivation was not to depopulate generally, but rather to rid society of those bothersome old people who are putting such a strain on economies that aren't producing enough young people to serve as a tax or labor base.

Yeadon also makes the mistake of saying 'I'm a scientist - therefore i'm right!' This is a large part of the problem - the culture of empiricism. Philosophers - the same dudes who invented all the freedoms we have, including democracy, also pointed out the flaws of empiricism as a philosophy. (a) we never have all the information - there's too much of it (b) it breeds a tendency to insist you're right (because you're an empiricist) and shut down other voices - which is anti-knowledge.

Good point, and this is why we need informed, open discussion. When did changing one's mind or being open to opposing ideas become a sign of weakness and cause for ridicule?

CNBC: Pfizer and BioNTech’s Covid-19 vaccine is just 39% effective in Israel where the delta variant is the dominant strain'

However, the two-dose vaccine still works very well in preventing people from getting seriously sick, demonstrating 88% effectiveness against hospitalization and 91% effectiveness against severe illness, according to the Israeli data published Thursday.

Compared to what? I'm assuming tap water is 85% effective against preventing hospitalization.

In a statement to CNBC, Pfizer said it remains confident its two-dose regimen is protective against the coronavirus and its variants.

Still, it said a third dose may be helpful after analysis from its phase three study showed a decline in efficacy against symptomatic infection after four to six months.

Four to six months! That's not very long. That means the world's population needs a booster twice a year.

Pfizer: Initial data of a third dose of the current vaccine demonstrates that a booster dose given at least 6 months after the second dose elicits high neutralization titers against the wild type and the Beta, which are 5 to 10 times higher than after two primary doses.

So two doses is 91% effective supposedly and two doses plus a booster is up to 10 times more effective than that?

Is that even mathematically possible?

CNBC: Pfizer and BioNTech’s Covid-19 vaccine is just 39% effective in Israel where the delta variant is the dominant strain'

However, the two-dose vaccine still works very well in preventing people from getting seriously sick, demonstrating 88% effectiveness against hospitalization and 91% effectiveness against severe illness, according to the Israeli data published Thursday.

Compared to what? I'm assuming tap water is 85% effective against preventing hospitalization.

It's an easy call for them to make considering that well over 90% of people infected, vaccinated or not, will not need hospitalization nor get seriously ill.

I assume they're basing this on a comparison to unvaccinated people. But even then, there's so much going on that they're conveniently not including into the calculation. For one thing, I think it's safe to say that vaccinated people are also more likely to wear masks, social distance, and basically do other common sense things to beat the virus, while unvaccinated people, particularly those who deny science, are more likely to engage in risky behaviour.

So they cherry pick their data.

Another thing coming out in the media that bugs the shit out of me is that the experts are saying, over and over, that the unvaccinated serve as a breading ground for new variants.

In the same breath, they're admitting that the vaccinated carry as much of a viral load of the Delta strain as the vaccinated.

If they carry the same viral load, they're spreading it equally. Furthermore, it is those who are vaccinated who are truly training the virus to mutate to beat the vaccine.

So in fact, with regards to the Delta variant, it seems that it's the vaccinated who are providing a prime environment for a deadlier strain to emerge.

Fully Vaccinated May Transmit Delta Just As Easily—And New Variant Shows Signs Of Vaccine Evasion—Early U.K. Research Suggests

While vaccinations still appear to reduce a person’s overall risk of catching the delta variant, research published Friday by Public Health England (PHE) found early evidence that people fully vaccinated against Covid-19 may be able to transmit the hyper infectious strain just as easily as those who aren’t.

With their findings outlined in a new technical briefing, PHE scientists said initial analysis of available data indicates that the levels of virus in people infected with the delta variant after being vaccinated “may be similar” to the levels found in unvaccinated people.

Separately, the public health agency said another variant on the rise in the U.K., a strain known as B.1.621 that was discovered in Colombia, has shown signs of evading the immune response triggered by Covid-19 vaccines or previous infection.

And yet we still see statements like this:

"So the unvaccinated continue to be the big highway of transmission. The vaccinated, they're little side streets. Let's not get preoccupied with that. We need to get more people vaccinated."

These studies that are showing that the vaccinated can spread the virus just as easily as the unvaccinated have to be viewed as very inconvenient news for the drug industry. Damn science!

Oh, and then there's this from the Forbe's article:

The data shared by PHE also showed that of the confirmed delta cases that ended up hospitalized since July 19, 55.1% of the 1,467 were unvaccinated, while 34.9% had received both doses of the vaccine. Experts have highlighted that hospitalizations of vaccinated people does not mean vaccines aren’t working.

Yeah, it doesn't mean they aren't working, it just means they aren't working very well.

The Fauci's of the world are going to start losing whatever credibility they manage to conjure up from one day to the next.

Here's the latest headlines from the Murdoch press in Australia:

News: People who refuse to get vaccinated are no longer decent members of society.

All other mainstream media outlets in Australia - and i mean all - echo this sentiment.

Forget about how we were all so terribly wrong with our vilification of anyone suggesting Covid may have been a lab-leak - lets' just move onto the next target!

As Dan mentions, it's illogical to blame the Delta variant on the unvaccinated - for a start, Delta was around before vaccines were widely available. Secondly, if anything, it's vaccines that are likely to drive the rise of variants - exactly the same way the overuse of antibiotics did with infections.

But at least we can shift blame from those who caused Covid in the first place - mainstream scientists messing around with risky GoF experiments - and the media/experts for covering the leak up - which allowed it that crucial space it needed to spread around the world.

The sad truth is that society is sick with hatred. At our best we can be uplifted by positivity - but that's kinda hard and takes talent to inspire. It's way easier to give into a darker urge that can also motivate and unite - that's vilification.

This belongs in Dan's fiction section, but Lord of the Flies highlighted how society doesn't really need God to control its members - but boy it needs the devil.

Yale: The effort to evaluate COVID-19 vaccines in even younger children is now moving forward. Inci Yildirim, MD, PhD, associate professor of pediatrics (infectious diseases) at Yale School of Medicine, will lead Yale’s component of Moderna’s clinical trial of a vaccine for children 6 months to 12 years of age. Called KidCOVE, the phase 2/3 trial is being conducted at approximately 90 sites across the U.S. and Canada and will include 6,750 children.

No where in the article does it explain why on earth you would do that. So drug companies can expand their market? Worldwide, vaccinations of children will cause 1000's of unnecessary deaths.

Just let kids catch Covid - doesn't hurt them - provides stronger/longer-lasting immunity than a vaccine.

Both the UK and Israel are running well above pre-vax deaths and cases compared to a year ago.

Not surprisingly there's total radio silence. At the BBC - i don't know if it's self-censorship or they've had word from the government to institute a media blackout - but there is zilch coverage. (Compare that to Australia, where the push is still to get everyone vaccinated - if someone sneezes it will make headline news.)

Occasionally you'll hear 'Oh it's all from the unvaxed' but that can't be true. Both countries have very high rates of vaccination - surely the elderly are close to 100% jabbed - and they're still the most likely age-group to die from Covid.

Unfortunately this is the nightmare misinformation world we live in. I know what the media is doing - they think it's not in the 'common-good' to report it coz it will only encourage vaccine hesitancy. A lot of people - the majority even - would agree with them - which is where you start getting into Huxley's Brave New World territory.

(Note: Thank God Huxley was born when he was - if he was writing today there is no way he would get published.)

But where does that leave us? We've gone straight from a co-ordinated campaign to cover up the origin of Covid into co-ordinated campaign to cover-up the effectiveness of experimental vaccines. We are literally living in an unreal world.

Just let kids catch Covid - doesn't hurt them - provides stronger/longer-lasting immunity than a vaccine.

Furthermore, unnecessary vaccination will only give the virus more opportunity to mutate around, in response to, the vaccines, making the virus more deadly, requiring yet newer vaccines. It will be similar to the permanent state of war on terror.

Furthermore, unnecessary vaccination will only give the virus more opportunity to mutate around, in response to, the vaccines, making the virus more deadly, requiring yet newer vaccines. It will be similar to the permanent state of war on terror.

That's another topic you will never see discussed in mainstream media. Interestingly, when virologists are chatting to each other on their podcasts, they let a lot of things slip that are off message - they seem to forget that anyone might be listening. Whilst researching Eddie Holmes (Prox Origin author) i came across this interview from Jan 5, 2021:

Edward Holmes: My guess is that as immunity rises in the population, hopefully by vaccination, you will start to see immune escape gradually. That will happen. That's an inevitable consequence of natural selection. It's been played out for millennia, and it's going to happen again. We will very likely need to update these vaccines at some point. That may take 2 years or 5 years or 1 year; I don't know.

To me, it's a racing certainty that immune selection pressure is going to push the virus in a certain way. You'll probably start to see more direct evolution than you have done in the past, because now it's harder for the virus to find a susceptible host because people are immune. Only the fittest strain is going to make it through, and that fitness is going to depend on a particular antigenic configuration.

Eric Topol (Scripps): This is a central point you're making, in that the race toward population-level herd immunity, vaccine-induced, is countered by the virus evolving. We're not seeing the end of this virus just because you get 80% of the world vaccinated. This is an endemic story, would you say?

Holmes: I would put money on this being an endemic respiratory virus. Absolutely. Even if we rolled out the best vaccine coverage program ever, we're not going to vaccinate everybody. We can't do it simultaneously. The virus will evolve fast enough to keep itself going, and they'll re-enter the susceptible class. I think it's endemic. Absolutely.

Topol: Well, that's exciting, isn't it? It's interesting to speak to a leading evolutionary virologist because you get a different perspective about it.

Holmes: I can't predict what mutations will appear in what order or at what time, but I think I can make a pretty strong prediction that it is going to evolve and is going to escape immunity like everything always does. I think that's a pretty safe prediction.

Holmes: Some months ago, I did a little exercise with the Wellcome Trust, which was very interesting, on horizon scanning, playing out what the future might be like in 5-10 years' time. We've looked at vaccination, immunity, and antivirals. In our vaccine horizon scanning future predictions, a vaccine of this efficacy was our absolute best-case scenario. Our middle-case, most likely scenario was much worse.

You will still see media talking about the vaccines as being 90+% effective - but that's against the original Covid that no longer exists. Now we are in that 'middle-case' zone of around 60% or lower for several of the vaccines - it's hard to know exactly coz there are very few studies and the media won't report the ones that have been done. But it's safe to say we're now looking at the 'much worse' horizon scan.

The funny thing is, Holmes is an absolute darling of the media. Mega-platformed with his 'no-lab-leak' pro-CCP propaganda - now here is saying (a) Covid will definitely escape vaccines (b) the immune pressure applied by vaccines will contribute to the evolution of the virus.

Never thought i'd say this but i totally agree with Eddie's analysis. You can't vaccinate the entire planet simultaneously - therefore you're always chasing your tail.

My only question is: Shouldn't Eddie be getting mercilessly vilified in the media for saying that?

Looks like Eddie's prediction is coming to pass.

Daily Mail: Researchers from the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, found that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine - the most commonly used shot in the U.S. - was only 42 percent effective against infection in July.

Meanwhile, the Moderna vaccine was only 76 percent effective.

PDF of Mayo study: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.06.21261707v1.full.pdf

I guess that explains the numbers of infections we're seeing, at least in part. Clearly this not just a "pandemic of the unvaccinated".

A BRAVE NEW WORLD: ‘Freedom Plan’ for vaxxed Australians revealed

Vaccinated Australians could soon get exemptions from lockdown restrictions as the NSW Premier prepares to reveal a “Freedom Plan”.

Saw this headline today - written without a trace of irony. The article goes onto happily say the vaxxed will be allowed out from lockdown - while the unvaxxed will be ... locked down forever...?

Saw this headline today - written without a trace of irony. The article goes onto happily say the vaxxed will be allowed out from lockdown - while the unvaxxed will be ... locked down forever...?

And that's just it -- it becomes a penalty on those who don't get vaccinated.

I consider myself fairly liberal, certainly not hard core right wing, but what bugs me about this, among so many other things, is that it will be self-described progressive liberals who will say this is a good thing, and in the same breath defend the right to abortion (which I support), saying "my body, my choice." You can't have it both ways.

Oxford University Study: The dynamics of immunity following second doses differed significantly between BNT162b2 (Pfizer) and ChAdOx1 (AZ), with greater initial effectiveness .. but faster declines in protection against high viral burden and symptomatic infection with BNT162b2. There was no evidence that effectiveness varied by dosing interval, but protection was higher among those vaccinated following a prior infection and younger adults. With Delta, infections occurring following two vaccinations had similar peak viral burden to those in unvaccinated individuals.

So both decline - Pfizer nRMA declines fastest.

Vaxxed people contracting Delta experience the same 'viral burden' as unvaxxed.

Israel and US are already giving booster shots for Pfizer. That indicates it's running out of puff after about 4-6mths.

Meanwhile Pfizer has pumped up its price. One thing i will say for AZ is that it's not a profit-gouging outfit like Pfizer.

Interesting to see Oxford hitting back in the data war after Pfizer had secured PR supremacy.

Israel and US are already giving booster shots for Pfizer. That indicates it's running out of puff after about 4-6mths.

Interestingly, there's no call for a booster on the J&J, which was trashed by the media earlier.

This is becoming a marketing windfall for vaccines that perform poorly. In educational technology parlance, this is what is referred to as rewarding poor performance.

Interestingly, there's no call for a booster on the J&J, which was trashed by the media earlier.

This is becoming a marketing windfall for vaccines that perform poorly. In educational technology parlance, this is what is referred to as rewarding poor performance.

I think you might have got the best one - only one shot - not known for extreme side-effects - greater durability - though i haven't seen studies one way or another on that i should add. Unfortunately it's not available here.

Meanwhile, things must be getting serious in the UK. Apart from break-through infections, there was a 'break-through' article in the BBC that has broken radio-silence to admit, for the first time, the possibility that vaccines might be failing.

It also points out the illogic of vaccinating children with partially effective vaccines when you would get a far better immune response if you just let them catch Covid - and build a natural resistance as they grow up.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58270098

We have a new entrant in the vaccine smorgasbord.

BBC: Taiwan has begun administering its first domestically developed Covid-19 vaccine, amid criticism that its approval was rushed.

The island's health ministry authorised emergency use of the Medigen vaccine last month although clinical trials are yet to be completed.

Got a frosty reception on the BBC - would have thought saying it's 'rushed' is a bit rich given they were all rushed and granted 'emergency approval'.

Medigen, whose Chinese name literally means "high-end", is a recombinant protein vaccine, similar to the vaccine developed by Novavax.

The Novavax jab uses a more traditional method of recreating part of the spike protein of the virus to stimulate the immune system.

So again, a completely different type to nRNA and AstraZeneca (which is a repurposed chimpanzee virus).

Interestingly India is releasing a DNA vaccine. I remember a time when there was all this FactChecking about nRNA NOT being a vaccine that alters your DNA - that was all scare-mongering - rather it alters the messaging that comes from you DNA, which is basically the same thing effectively. But now there is an actual DNA one.

Reminds you that when people say they're pro or anti-vax, you have to consider that there are many different kinds.

I wonder if the Taiwan vax will run into troubles with the vaccine passport when China applies pressure on countries not to recognize it...

Aug 26 (Reuters) - Japan suspended the use of 1.63 million doses of Moderna Inc's (MRNA.O) COVID-19 vaccine on Thursday, more than a week after the domestic distributor received reports of contaminants in some vials.

Moderna: Moderna confirms having been notified of cases of particulate matter being seen in drug product vials of its COVID-19 vaccine. The company is investigating the reports and remains committed to working expeditiously with its partner, Takeda, and regulators to address this.

Particulate matter? Is that the most specific they can be?

This will likely to the way of the story about the boy who died a few days after getting the vaccine.

Nothing to see here folks. Keep moving.

News: Denham Hitchcock has shared his story of being hospitalised after receiving the Pfizer jab, suffering from pericarditis (inflammation of the heart).

The Channel 7 journalist “battled over whether” to share his experience or not, “but decided after 27 years of being a journalist who’s primary goal is to discover the truth – it would be hypocritical not to."

Hitchcock: I’m NOT anti-vax. But I’m really not pro vax either. I’m pro choice – and pro information to make that choice. Above all I’m PRO opening the bloody country up and to do that I don’t see any way around getting the majority of Australia vaccinated. So I got the Pfizer shot.

The first week was like any vaccine. Feeling off. But nearing the end of the second week my heart started to race, I was getting pins and needles in the arms, extreme fatigue and a very strange sensation of dizziness. I took Nurofen, and I kept working.

By the end of the third week I was getting steadily worse – sharp chest pain – cold shivers and chills – and the dizziness was intense. 25 days after the shot and probably a little late to hospital – but here I am – diagnosed with pericarditis – or inflammation of the heart due to the Pfizer vaccine.

Shit. I think I'll stick with NAC.

Damn. That's frightening. And it's only 66.6% effective. That reminds me of the old Woody Allen joke:

“There's an old joke - um... two elderly women are at a Catskill mountain resort, and one of 'em says, "Boy, the food at this place is really terrible." The other one says, "Yeah, I know; and such small portions."

News: The (Israel) study found those who have received two shots of the Pfizer vaccine were 13 times more likely to have a breakthrough infection of the Delta variant than those who had been previously infected with Covid-19 between January and February 2021.

13 times!!!

Think i've mentioned this before but potentially the most effective strategy would be to inject everyone under the age of say 50 with Covid.

The death-rate would be similar to that of the vaccines - but with 13 times the immunity.

Of course the fatal flaw would be how is Pfizer gonna make forever money with their boosters out of that?

Researchers: The long-term protection provided by a third dose, recently administered in Israel, is still unknown.

Rubbish. It's going to be the same as the current shots - it will work for five minutes then they'll be lining everyone up for a booster for the booster.

Japan Times: The foreign substance detected in dozens of vials of Moderna Inc.’s COVID-19 vaccine in Japan is thought to have been tiny pieces of metal, but experts have dismissed concerns over significant health problems, saying that the chance of the foreign material actually entering the body is low.

The foreign material is “a metal that reacts to a magnet” and is believed to have entered the vials during the production process, the Asahi Shimbun quoted an unidentified senior health ministry official as saying.

That's strange - i thought those stories of Moderna being magnetic had to be false - but maybe not.

Japan Times: Two people died after receiving Moderna Inc. COVID-19 vaccine shots that were among the lots later suspended following the discovery of contaminants, the health ministry said on Saturday.

It's unclear if their deaths were due to the metal contaminants or just normal vaccine deaths.

Japan Times: Anecdotes tell us what the data can’t: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate. But exactly how often isn’t clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. And now, there’s growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.

Is it the data can't tell us - or won't?

There’s a dearth of scientific studies with concrete answers, leaving U.S. policymakers and corporate executives to formulate plans based on fragmented information. While some are renewing mask mandates or delaying office reopenings, others cite the lack of clarity to justify staying the course. It can all feel like a mess.

So why is there a dearth of studies? It's kinda serious i would have thought. If the vaccines don't work then giving people a false sense of protection is dangerous. Not to mention the old problem of partially effective vaccines driving the the virus to mutate.

At least there was an article about in Japan Times. You would never see anything like that in Australian media. Instead all the talk in Australia is how only the vaxxed will be allowed to enter pubs, sporting venues etc. That might backfire spectacularly if there's a surge in infections amongst the vaxxed.

You wonder what's the next trick if, as is looking increasingly likely, vaccines fail. This is where the lack of effort put into normal medicines such as antivirals will come back to bite. Surely there has to be a change there.

Here's the offending tweet:

Alex Berenson: Don’t think of it as a vaccine. Think of it – at best – as a therapeutic with a limited window of efficacy and terrible side effect profile that must be dosed IN ADVANCE OF ILLNESS.

Berenson used to work for NYT. He's also been a critic of lockdowns and censorship:

Information has never been more plentiful or easier to distribute. Yet we are sliding into a new age of censorship and suppression, encouraged by technology giants and traditional media companies. As someone who’s been falsely characterized as a coronavirus ‘denier,’ I have seen this crisis firsthand.

Would seem like reasonable views to espouse in an open society - which explains why they're not allowed in our current society.

Since June, Amazon has twice tried to suppress self-published booklets I have written about Covid-19 and the response to it. These booklets don’t contain conspiracy theories. Like the scientists who wrote the Great Barrington Declaration, I simply believe many measures to control the coronavirus have been damaging, counterproductive and unsupported by science.

ABC Fact Check: According to the TGA's vaccine safety reports, as mentioned above, there have been no confirmed deaths linked to the Pfizer vaccine in Australia.

The TGA is Aus's FDA. The word 'confirmed' tells the story. As Dan pointed out with the kid in the US where it was going to take months to 'confirm' whether his death was vaccine related, it smacks of a way to cover-up the truth - something that has become second nature. 'No deaths' seems unlikely - presumably the death-rate would be the same as it is in other countries - unless there's something different about Australians? In Japan for example:

Asahi: The number of people who died after receiving Pfizer doses was 453 until June 27, or 11.6 deaths per 1 million shots.

Then there are those who experience heart inflammation but survive it. It's not like 'oh, ive got a bit of heart-inflammation, think i might take the afternoon off' - it's rush to hospital - hope for the best. If the vaccines actually work, then maybe that's an acceptable toll - but lying cannot become normal - i don't care how much the self-appointed society guardians believe in their 'common-good' fantasies.

TGA: 235 reports of suspected myocarditis [inflammation of the heart muscle] and/or pericarditis [inflammation of the membrane around the heart] following vaccination with the Pfizer vaccine.

These reports reflect the observations of the people reporting them and have not been confirmed as having been caused by the vaccine. Some events may be coincidental and would have happened anyway, regardless of vaccination.

'These reports reflect the observations of people reporting them'? What does that even mean? Assuming the people reporting them are doctors - the health experts that we're all supposed to be slavishly obeying - except when they report vaccine side-effects?

Lot of amazing coincidences going on since Covid. Emerges next door to WIV - just a coincidence. WHO investigation run by Daszak, who coincidentally worked at WIV, now all these coincidental deaths after receiving vaccines ...

At the end of the day, i don't even think the side-effects are the biggest problem - that would be the danger of using partially effective vaccines that drive the virus to mutate and potentially become worse. Whilst conducting a crackdown on existing therapeutics that may be more effective.

This is list of today's Covid Deaths:

A man in his 80s from southwestern Sydney died at Campbelltown Hospital.

A woman in her 80s from southwestern Sydney died at Liverpool Hospital.

A man in his 70s from southwestern Sydney died at Liverpool Hospital. He acquired his infection at the hospital and is the 12th death linked to this outbreak.

A man in his 80s from Sydney’s north died at Hornsby Ku-ring-gai Hospital. He acquired his infection at the hospital.

A man in his 50s from southwestern Sydney died at Royal North Shore Hospital.

A man in his 80s from southwestern Sydney died at St George Hospital.

A woman in her 70s from southwestern Sydney died in Campbelltown Hospital.

Given that the Aus media never fails to report if an un-vaxxed person dies, can we assume all of the above were vaxxed?

Australia has reached maximum vaccine coverage of the elderly so unless they have a strong medical reason not to be vaccinated, we can deduce that all of the cases aged 70 and above have been vaxxed. The only question mark would be regarding the man in his 50's.

Good old Taiwan - the (last?) land of the free.

The thing about Taiwan is they've lived through fascism - found a way out - so they don't forget what it's like - or how easy it is to slip back into it.

Taiwan News: Employers in Taiwan are prohibited from requiring interviewees to present a certificate indicating they have been vaccinated against COVID-19, according to the labor authorities.

In response to complaints from job seekers who were asked to provide proof of inoculation, Wu Shu-ying (吳淑瑛), an official at the Workforce Development Agency, said this is a violation of privacy protection rules.

Job applicants are advised to report such violations to the relevant authorities. Violators risk a fine of between NT$60,000 (US$2,165) and NT$300,000, pursuant to the Employment Service Act.

Meanwhile in Australia if you tried reporting an employer for the same, you'd vilified, sacked, probably fined/jailed for 'incitement'.

So much for the vaccine passport. Now Israelis, from the the most vaccinated country on earth are being banned by European countries due to a surge in cases there.

Epoch Times: Meanwhile, Israel over the weekend announced that individuals who have not received a third booster vaccine shot will not be able to use their vaccine passports.

You can see where this is going - in a couple of years time you won't be able to travel unless you've had your full 6 vaccine shots.

Yep, it's spiraling out of control. Experts now are just pulling statements out their ass when necessary.

"Fauci says he wouldn’t be surprised if Covid vaccines require three shots for full regimen, instead of two".

What kind of statement is that? Basically, he's admitting he doesn't know WTF is going on, but, hey, when in doubt, more vaccine.

It's amazing how little the world acknowledges what Taiwan has achieved.

Not only has it managed to contain the virus more than most any (any?) other country of its size, it has done so while still maintaining personal freedoms, and this is an excellent example of that. But it's more than a legal act, it's a cultural stance as well, which you point out.

Greg Hunt, Health Minister: ATAGI has considered and recommended that Pfizer be made available to all children from 12-15 years.

Importantly, what that means is we’re in a position to ensure that all children, and all families that seek their children to be vaccinated between 12-15, will be able to do so this year. We’re in a position to move from September 13 and that’s a carefully sequenced plan.

This differs from the UK health experts.

UK’s vaccine advisory body: Children were at such a low risk from the virus that jabs would offer only a marginal benefit. (We are) preferring a precautionary approach in healthy children due to a rare side effect of heart inflammation.

So the Aus experts are going ahead anyway. Despite having recently reported this:

ATAGI: Myocarditis and/or pericarditis have recently been reported overseas in adolescents aged 12 and older and in adults, following mRNA COVID-19 vaccines including (Pfizer).

The risk of these conditions appears higher in adolescents compared to adults.

In an analysis of US Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System data, crude reporting rates were 40.6 cases per million second doses of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in males aged 12−29 years, and 2.4 per million second doses in males aged (over) 30 years.

That's one in 25 000 kids getting heart inflammation. Remember, this is just the first round of shots that may well go on all their lives.

ATAGI: More detailed data on incidence, including more refined age-specific incidence rates for adolescents aged 12-15 compared to over 16 years, and on medical risk factors, are not yet available.

More detail? If you need more then (a) why don't you have it? (b) Is it wise to jab 12 year-olds first then ask questions later?

The whole vaccine culture war is very troubling. Everything about this story bothers me, the title, the actors, the implications... Fauci Says DeSantis Is 'Completely Incorrect' To Call Vaccine A Mere Personal Choice

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is "completely incorrect" to suggest vaccines are a personal choice with no broad implications, says Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country's top infectious disease authority.

As much as I think DeSantis is an entitled prick and self serving jackass, I agree that getting a vaccine is absolutely a personal choice. If a virus is not lethal enough to scare people into getting a vaccine, then they shouldn't be forced or coerced or financially blackmailed into getting it. Few people turned down the polio vaccine, if any.

If we have any freedom at all, it starts and ends with our bodies. Our bodies do not belong to the government or the community in which we live. Of course we have the right to refuse a needle be stuck in them, for any reason, including saving our own lives.

Fauci continues, "When you're dealing with an outbreak of an infectious disease, it isn't only about you," Fauci said. "There's a societal responsibility that we all have."

It isn't about you. Your body isn't about you. It's no coincidence that in the same week, we have the Supreme Court allowing a state to ban abortion and have the medical establishment effectively, albeit indirectly, calling for enforced vaccine. We have both the right and the left waging war on our personal freedoms.

Well put.

Our fundamental freedoms are being stripped away - due to Covid.

But no-one seems to care what Covid was due to.

In Australia it's even more out out-of-control - actually that should be under-control - than the US.

The Great un-vaxxed face:

constant vilification in both the left and right wing press that see it as their job to whip up mob anger
bans on interstate travel - and of course international travel
bans on entering bars/restaurants/sporting stadiums etc - while all businesses are being encouraged to 'exercise their right' to ban the unvaxxed.
bans on receiving alternative medication

The last one is probably the most disturbing. We keep hearing 'Don't take ivermectin because there are insufficient studies on it'. In fact doctors are not allowed to prescribe it.

But why are there insufficient studies? What's the hold up? We've definitely got sufficient subjects with Covid to study. Deductively speaking, the conclusion is that the powerful people don't want anyone taking alternative therapies coz they want everyone to be vaccinated. We're trapped in a burning building and all other exits are closed off.

With the mob-anger behind them, the attitude in Australia is if you don't get vaxxed then you deserve to fucking die.

Withholding medicine from those who choose not to be injected by the same scientific community that likely caused Covid in the beginning is immoral - you could argue it's premeditated murder.

This is an article about "anecdotal testimonies of sudden, early, disturbingly prolonged, abruptly absent, extremely painful, or unusually heavy and clot-filled menstrual cycles post-Covid 19 vaccination."

The author poses the question - why have there been no studies done on this side-effect?

I could tell him why - any adverse data that may add to 'vaccine hesitancy' is banned. It's that simple.

I could tell him why - any adverse data that may add to 'vaccine hesitancy' is banned. It's that simple.

In addition to this, the people who would normally be screaming from the rooftops of any injustice to women's reproductive biology and rights are now vehement pro-vaccine fascist.

This gets back to what I mentioned before, a conflict, or confluence, we've never seen before in American politics.

Those who, in every other context (particularly a woman's right to abortion) demand the right to choose, now demand forced vaccination.

Those who, in every other context (particularly abortion), demand a right to life, are now demanding that safeguards against covid be outlawed.

This exemplifies how incredibly fucked up American society is. People don't know if they're coming or going. A right to life? In the womb but not in classroom? A right to choose? If it's your body but not mine?

Here's some good news that will hopefully set a precedent for other countries:

Sajid Javid, Health Minister: We’ve looked at it properly and whilst we should keep it in reserve as a potential option I’m pleased to say that we will not be going ahead with plans for vaccine passports. I’ve never liked the idea of saying to people you must show your papers or something to do what is just an everyday activity.

I've never liked that idea either - coz it smells like a creeping fascist apartheid state.

It also has the potential to backfire dramatically. If you've only allowed the vaxxed outside to play, but then there's a surge in breakthrough cases, that's not gonna be a great advertisement for the efficacy of your vaccines.

Seems the only time it makes the news in Aus is when a media rep gets it.

Hannah Scott, Network Ten: I’m not posting this for sympathy and I’m certainly not an anti-vaxxer. I’m pro-choice, and my choice was to get the vaccine.

As a result, I’m in the unfortunate percentile that has been diagnosed with pericarditis (heart inflammation), a rare side effect of Pfizer.

Cold chills and dizzy spells were regular. I pushed on and four days ago (one week post jab) my heart began racing uncontrollably, making it difficult to slow my heart rate down enough to sleep (my heart is still racing today).

The purpose of this post is to highlight that if you’re feeling any of these symptoms – get checked to be safe, because this side effect is rarely talked about, despite my doctors saying they have been seeing this more frequently of late.

I don’t want to put anyone off getting vaccinated. Just to point out that there are vaccine options and to be mindful of your symptoms.

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So for all those screaming at the unvaxxed because ... i'm not even sure why people are screaming at the unvaxxed ... but they should be furious with the Africans.

And be particularly careful if you're teenage boy:

Boys more at risk from Pfizer jab side-effect than Covid, suggests study

Healthy boys may be more likely to be admitted to hospital with a rare side-effect of the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid vaccine that causes inflammation of the heart than with Covid itself, US researchers claim.

Their analysis of medical data suggests that boys aged 12 to 15, with no underlying medical conditions, are four to six times more likely to be diagnosed with vaccine-related myocarditis than ending up in hospital with Covid over a four-month period. emphasis added

So there it is. I wonder how Fauci is going to dance around this one. "It's still far safer to.... it's.... there's no reason not to.... shit."

Their analysis of medical data suggests that boys aged 12 to 15, with no underlying medical conditions, are four to six times more likely to be diagnosed with vaccine-related myocarditis than ending up in hospital with Covid over a four-month period.[/i] emphasis added

Such a pity teenagers get forced into this needless death-lottery - with all the pressure from society to get jabbed - for the common good.

Here's yet another classic from the TGA (Aus's FDA)

TGA: There is no link between the Covid-19 vaccines and changes in women’s menstrual cycles

The TGA has conducted a review into Covid-19 vaccines and menstrual disorders in response to increased reporting of these events in Australia and internationally.

The old 'no evidence'. There is evidence - stacks of it - as you even admit in your statement. Saying there's not is simply lying. What they really mean is that we refuse to investigate these reports properly because we don't want to validate any evidence that will increase vax-hesitancy.

Then they get angry when people don't believe them. The experts are locked into this thinking whereby people should be treated as idiots - we tell them whatever lies we like to manipulate them into doing what we want them to do. That's wrong - it's dangerous - it's counter-productive.

moved to here

In Australia the unvaxxed will already be banned from cafes, pubs, hairdressers, clothing stores, and pretty much everywhere - now they want to starve them out.

News: Retail billionaire Solomon Lew has called for a ban on the unvaccinated in the nation’s shopping centres when lockdowns end and strict temperature checks for all shoppers on entry.

For the hundredth time - if you're vaxxed and confident that it works - why this irrational fear of the unvaxxed?

It's not science - it's nothing more than a sick human desire to vilify/ostracize.

Now they want to stop them from buying food?

Do they really know what they're doing?

If you want to whip up an angry underclass that will shake the foundations of society - you're going exactly the right way about it.

Solomon Lew - when that happens - people won't forget your fascist agenda.

Wow. Now that's very disturbing. And it raises the question of why Australia has agreed to spend billions of dollars on new submarines, presumably to counter China's military growth, if they're going to act just like the CCP? Why not just join them and save lots of money? That way, they could pool their resources and share information to more efficiently control their populations.

Good point. We're supposedly on the brink of war yet i can't tell the difference between the two systems of government. If anything the police state in Victoria is more violent.

Part of the problem in Aus is that health is considered a state matter - which means we have jumped-up state premiers living out their ego-maniac power dreams - some of whom have very close ties to the CCP through Belt & Road Initiatives.

The most frightening thing is the mob-support they've garnered - the way they've been able whip it up to wage the War on Freedom - which in turn - has taken a lot of air out of the origin question - which - after all - is still the upstream source of all of this.

Thank God there's still some sanity in the world.

Prime Minister Erna Solberg: It is 561 days since we introduced the toughest measures in Norway in peacetime … Now the time has come to return to a normal daily life. In short, we can now live as normal.

Norway has a 67% vax-rate.

Compare that to Australia where restrictions will only be partially lifted at 80% - and never if you're not vaxxed.

Norway govt statement: The individual can choose for themselves what risk they want to take and what measures they want to practice.

Try saying that in public in Melbourne, you'll be body-slammed and have your head cracked open. That sounds like a ridiculous exaggeration - it's not.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1440715488821055489

NSW Govt Health Spokesperson: There will be requirements in place to ensure only those who have received both doses of the COVID-19 vaccine can take advantage of the freedoms.

This, basically, is a bio-ID on your cellphone - that you will need to carry at all times outdoors - and show anyone who asks - police - random officials - business owners - or more likely their private security enforcers.

What if you don't want to submit to this 1984-style fascism?

You'll cop this: https://twitter.com/i/status/1440715488821055489

Then this:

NSW Minister for Customer Service Victor Dominello: If people want to do the wrong thing, if they get found out, as I said, it could be jail time there.

The National Retail Association has called for more uniformed police in shopping areas to enforce compliance.

This is scary, insane, utterly unscientific. Pure viciousness. Which sadly appeals to many people.

They want to ostracize/fine/jail people who don't want to get vaxxed - but the people who actually caused Covid - the scientific community that lied to cover it up - that caused vaccine hestiancy? That killed all those millions of people and stole our freedoms?

Nothing. Never gets a mention. In fact they have super-sized their power. They are now the ones leading the calls for the unvaxxed to be jailed - while all 'freedoms' have been made conditional on the scientific experts' say-so. It is nothing more than a redirection of vilification to avert attention from the culpability of the cover-upers.

This is scary indeed. Your posting prompted me to look into the situation on Guam, one of our retirement options, and I was shocked to find a very similar situation:

"Proof of vaccination is required for patrons 12 years of age and older prior to entering all restaurants, bars, clubs, gyms, fitness centers, dance studios, movie theaters, food courts at shopping establishments, bowling alleys, sporting events, concerts, boat cruises, and other establishments and events that may be identified in applicable DPHSS guidance.The requirement for staff to provide proof of vaccination will be in effect at 8:00 AM on September 27, 2021."

So they're even including teens for whom the vaccine actually carries a greater risk of hospitalization than the disease itself. That makes no sense at all.

The elephant in the room here is the question of how long will these rules be in place. Are they going to become permanent? Is this the new normal? Proof of a vaccine for entry to public places for the rest of our lives? How does this end?

Reminds me of the anthrax 'terrorist attack' committed by US military scientist(s).

Everything they wanted when he/they planned the attack -
money (funding/vax sales)
power/data
the addictive feeling of power

- they got. In spades.

Like you said, on the positive side, there's really no need for a war with China - the systems of control are already the same. What would we be fighting about?

Rashays Restaurant founder Rami Ykmour has made the costly decision to not open his restaurants for indoor dining until both the vaccinated and unvaccinated can dine.

Mr Ykmour, who has 23 stores and franchises in NSW, said the decision to exclude the unvaccinated “didn’t feel right” to him.

Rami Ykmour: It’s something I pride myself in business, that it’s an inclusive business, and it goes completely against what we stand for

We welcome everyone and to stand and ask everyone if they are vaccinated and to show me your vaccine passport – that's not something I want and it’s not a culture I want to encourage anyway.

It’s a costly decision at the moment but I think long term I want my kids to be proud that their dad stood up for unity as opposed to running for the dollar.

SYDNEY, Sept 28 (Reuters): Berejiklian said people who choose not to be vaccinated could be barred entry to shops, restaurants and entertainment venues even after the state lifts all restrictions against them on Dec. 1.

Gladys Berejiklian, NSW Premier: A lot of businesses have said they will not accept anyone who is unvaccinated. Life for the unvaccinated will be very difficult indefinitely.

She's trying to deflect the blame onto business - but who makes the rules? Who's whipping up the vilification?

SOS to the world - in the War on Freedom - put Australia in the 'lost' column.

We welcome everyone and to stand and ask everyone if they are vaccinated and to show me your vaccine passport – that's not something I want and it’s not a culture I want to encourage anyway.

Wow, now that's a real protest.

I actually never thought we'd ever see vaccine passports given how contrary they are to personal privacy and freedom, in addition to being discriminatory on so many levels. I know! Wouldn't it be way simpler if the unvaccinated just had to wear some sort of armband or something? Or maybe have a big red U sown onto their clothing? Wouldn't that be more efficient?

I know! Wouldn't it be way simpler if the unvaccinated just had to wear some sort of armband or something? Or maybe have a big red U sown onto their clothing? Wouldn't that be more efficient?

Now you're thinking!

I'd also like to see a resurrection of the Colosseum type games - put some un-vaxxed in the middle of the stadium - maybe hobbled in some way - but not too much - you want them to run - then unleash the riot police with tasers and batons and rubber bullets (gas might be a problem for the spectators). When they're caught - bring on the medics to give them all their catch-up doses in one hit plus a few extra jabs for good measure.

Sept 30 (Reuters) - A U.S. judge upheld the University of California's COVID-19 vaccine requirement against a challenge by a professor who alleged he had immunity due to a prior coronavirus infection, in what appears to be the first ruling on the issue.

U.S. District Court Judge James Selna in Santa Ana, California, said the university system acted rationally to protect public health by mandating the vaccine and not exempting individuals with some level of immunity from an infection.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said on Aug. 6 that a study showed vaccines offer better protection than natural immunity gained from prior infection, which wanes over time.

He told Reuters he plans to use the discovery process to determine how the policy was formulated and to question the university's expert witnesses about their reasoning for rejecting his arguments on natural immunity.

I think he's going to find there's no reason - it just is.

Same with vaccinating children.

CANBERRA/SYDNEY, Oct 1 (Reuters): To support the reopening of borders and allow more Australians to return, officials expanded the country's list of recognised COVID-19 vaccines.

The addition of China's Sinovac vaccine in particular is expected to give Australia's key international education sector a boost when foreign travellers are allowed to enter the country.

Chinese students, many of whom are likely to have received the Sinovac vaccine, account for a third of a sector that was worth A$35 billion ($25.2 billion) a year to Australia's A$2 trillion economy prior to the pandemic.

Covishield, a version of AstraZeneca's vaccine produced by the Serum Institute of India, will also be added to the approved list, joining the three vaccines being administered in Australia - Pfizer (PFE.N), Moderna (MRNA.O) and AstraZeneca (AZN.L).

This is in the true spirit of why Dan started the Vaccine Data Wars thread. The above are the winners.

There are quite a lot of others that don't make the list - Sputnik, for example, Taiwan has one, Medigen, does Japan have a home-grown one? - they all seem pretty good at reducing severity - for 6 months at least - similar side-effect profiles...

That's vaccine politics right there.

News: From today, the conditions for the nation’s Covid Green Pass – essentially a vaccine passport that allows inoculated residents to enter indoor venues – have been radically altered.

The shake-up means Israel is now the first country in the world to no longer provide its vaccination certificate to citizens who had received their second vaccine dose more than six months ago.

Under the new guidelines, people must have received a third jab, a booster shot, to be eligible for a green pass (enabling them to) enter public spaces,including restaurants, hotels, clubs, cultural venues and large private gatherings.

The Green Pass is valid for 6 mths from your 3rd jab. So you could easily slip behind. In 5 years you could be 13 shots behind.

Can you say 'just give me the 13th one' or will you need to get all 13 in one go?

STOCKHOLM, Oct 6 (Reuters) - Sweden and Denmark said on Wednesday they are pausing the use of Moderna's (MRNA.O) COVID-19 vaccine for younger age groups after reports of possible rare cardiovascular side effects.

Swedish Health Agency: The connection is especially clear when it comes to Moderna's vaccine Spikevax, especially after the second dose.

Moderna: These are typically mild cases and individuals tend to recover within a short time following standard treatment and rest. The risk of myocarditis is substantially increased for those who contract COVID-19, and vaccination is the best way to protect against this.

Reuteres: Data suggests reported cases of rare heart inflammation are relatively higher after Moderna's vaccine compared with the Pfizer/BioNTech shots, Canadian health officials said last week.

If you want an alternative view on vaccine passports and The War on Freedom, then Aaron Ginn is a great source.

This video is a good one - very symbolic. Shows Italian security forces retreating - literally reversing - before an advancing, large crowd of protesters.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1447944132815585281

As we mentioned before - if you are deliberately trying to energize an underclass to rise up and shake the foundations of society - you're going exactly the right way about it.

This arrogance - the abuse of power - it will be their undoing. Get ready to reap what you sow.

I can't verify all these reports - but there are a lot of them.

https://www.reignitedemocracyaustralia.com.au/frontlines-speak-out/

It's easy to understand the motivations for downplaying adverse effects from the vaccine - reduce vax-hesitancy, human nature to not want to be wrong, zillions of dollars in profits for medico-industry, desire to vilify others, fear of being vilified/losing your job - but hard to think of why people would make up stories about adverse effects. In some cases it cost them their jobs.

The common themes seem to be:

brain fog - headaches/malaise/weakness
flare-ups of joint pain
skin rashes
personality changes (aggression)
menstrual problems
difficulty breathing
kidney stones
heart problems
blood clots
sudden death in elderly

The majority of the whistleblowers report that doctors are angrily censoring links between adverse effects and the vaccines.

Petition: We are extremely concerned regarding the 12,791 reported fatalities and 571,831 reported injuries in conjunction with the administration of the experimental, Emergency Use Authorized (EUA) COVID vaccines according to the August 13, 2021, published data sets from the CDC hosted Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) which a whistleblower, under sworn testimony filed in US District Court asserts may be underreported by a factor of five.

Additionally, we are profoundly concerned that the scientific literature continues to provide empirical evidence that safe and effective treatments and management strategies for COVID infections exist but are not being made available to Americans most in need. Our concerns have increased as the Delta variant (lineage B.1.617.2) is on the exponential rise among both the vaccinated and unvaccinated according to data published by surveillance systems in Israel, Gibraltar, Iceland, the United Kingdom, and the United States CDC.

They are both disturbing accusations that deserve investigation, but the second one is particularly interesting. That's an issue we've pondered here a few times.

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What I'm wondering is at what point will this travel requirement for vaccination be removed? This is the only required vaccine for travel between developed countries. Is this permanent?

What I'm wondering is at what point will this travel requirement for vaccination be removed? This is the only required vaccine for travel between developed countries. Is this permanent?

Those introducing it would love to make it permanent - they will certainly try - it will only be stopped if there's a backlash - same as with vaccine passports in general, and lockdowns.

Interesting Aljazeera was reporting that "less than 2% of people in Africa are vaccinated" as of Aug 31. At that rate they should be fully vaxxed in 50 years - then they can start their boosters.

In effect, any travel ban on the unvaxxed is a travel-ban on Africans.

You're kinda led to believe that it's because the rich countries are greedily hoarding the vaccines but i'm not convinced that's the reason. The vaccine factories are churning this stuff out now across the globe - we keep hearing 'no-one is safe until everyone is safe (vaxxed)' - lots of talk about donating to 'developing countries' - i suspect the real reason is different.

Due to previous history of suss medical trials in Africa there is a deep skepticism amongst Africans about white folk coming along wanting to inject experimental drugs into them.

Whilst down a rabbit-hole, i came across a very interesting book written about the Ebola outbreak of 2014 by a guy called Constantine Nana. Sounds like it was a Covid-cover-up dress rehearsal - including several of the same player. In the process of collating the info - then i'll work something up...

The protest movement against the War on Freedom is growing every day. Large crowds in Italy, France and Switzerland especially. Smaller protests in Australia - but that's only because you get fined $5000 for attending one and bashed/maced/tasered/jailed by the police.

But not a word in the mainstream media.

Contrast that to the BLM protests. I've got nothing against that cause - i support it - but why the discrepancy in coverage? The media is supposed to report the news - not pick and choose/censor it.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1449558041561468936

https://twitter.com/i/status/1449570043000332290

https://twitter.com/i/status/1449528506124226565

I know why they don't cover it - coz all this is coming home to roost at those institutions that have been integral in perpetrating the Covid Atrocity.

Corruption never stops by itself. Never, ever. It only stops when protesters make it stop. I don't know if the powers that be understand the full force of the typhoon that's building, heading to their doors - but it is coming.

Oct 26 (Reuters) - An expert panel on Tuesday voted overwhelmingly to recommend the U.S. Food and Drug Administration authorize the Pfizer Inc (PFE.N) and BioNTech SE COVID-19 vaccine for children ages 5 to 11, saying the benefits of the shot outweigh the risks.

An authorization for that age group would be an important regulatory step toward reaching about 28 million children.

So that means about 28 children aged 5-11 just bought a winning ticket in the death-lottery.

With a further 1 in 45 000 suffering serious injuries - approx 622.

None of whom would have been badly affected by the actual coronavirus.

Are they then going to be given boosters every six months for the rest of their life? In which case we need to redo the above math.

News: The Victorian health department has refused to release the vaccination status on the 25 coronavirus fatalities.

The spike in new deaths were reported on Thursday, which was the highest number of daily fatalities of the state’s current Delta outbreak.

When asked whether they were vaccinated, deputy chief health officer Ben Cowie said the data was available but “we’re not going to be reporting on that”.

Wondered when that would happen. No reporting on Vax adverse reactions now no reporting on vaxxed status of covid deaths.

We can guess why. It was already apparent that the media was self-censoring by being sure to report if an unvaxxed died but not mentioning anything if they were. Now the Andrews govt has regimented that.

If it's 50% dying who are vaxxed (which i read somewhere before) then i don't see that as any great anti-vax argument. A high proportion of elderly are vaxxed - they are still more prone to dying - it's not surprising that would be reflected in the stats.

But to ban the reporting outright? How will we know if that figure creeps up to 80% or higher? That would be a real concern.

That's pretty blatant censorship!

Here is a confusing take on a Facebook strategy to censor posts.

It's confusing because the article is bashing facebook for not censoring fast enough. It doesn't attempt to discuss the quality of methods of censorship, or what gets censored. It appears that any negative comment about vaccines gets censored by design.

To study ways to reduce vaccine misinformation, Facebook researchers changed how posts are ranked for more than 6,000 users in the U.S., Mexico, Brazil, and the Philippines. Instead of seeing posts about vaccines that were chosen based on their popularity, these users saw posts selected for their trustworthiness.

The results were striking: a nearly 12% decrease in content that made claims debunked by fact-checkers and an 8% increase in content from authoritative public health organizations such as the WHO or U.S. Centers for Disease Control. Those users also had a 7% decrease in negative interactions on the site.

Who is deciding what is misinformation? Who is deciding what is trustworthy? The article partially answers the second question, "...8% increase in content from authoritative public health organizations such as the WHO or U.S. Centers for Disease Control"

But then there's the 'such as' qualifier.

There's more:

Despite this, Facebook employees acknowledged they had “no idea” just how bad anti-vaccine sentiment was in the comments sections on Facebook posts. But company research in February found that as much as 60% of the comments on vaccine posts were anti-vaccine or vaccine reluctant.

“That’s a huge problem and we need to fix it,” the presentation on March 9 read.

Translated as, that's a huge problem and we need to censor comments.

“That’s a huge problem and we need to fix it,” the presentation on March 9 read. [/i]

Translated as, that's a huge problem and we need to censor comments.

That encapsulates the predicament we find ourselves in. MOU types believing it's their right - duty even - to fiddle the truth to suit their desired outcomes.

You would think there would be an ounce of self-reflection after getting the origin censorship so wrong - but no - move onto the next one.

This is curious - BioNtec signing big vax production deals on Dec 6 2019.

They did seem extraordinarily geared-up and ready to roll with the vaccines.

https://twitter.com/arcovidist/status/1435050427935043584

Epoch Times: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) altered the definition of “vaccine” because of concern that its definition did not apply to COVID-19 vaccines, according to newly released internal emails.

The agency updated its definition on Sept. 1.

The definition was formerly, “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease.” It is now, “A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”

One CDC employee in August, shortly before the definition was changed, said that the definition was being used by “right-wing COVID-19 pandemic deniers … to argue that mRNA vaccines are not vaccines.”

I keep hearing how the unvaxxed are threatening the 'fight to beat Covid' coz they are allowing the virus to continue to spread and evolve, but it forgets the point Dan raised way back in the beginning that the current vaccines don't stop you getting infected or spreading the virus - they simply make the symptoms less.

In fact, a study with Marek's disease in chickens with a similar vaccine, suggests that this suppression of symptoms rather than prevention of contagion, can result in more deadly diseases getting a foothold. The logic is that whereas normally more deadly variants would dead-end themselves due to the fact they kill their hosts, a vaccine that suppresses symptoms allows these deadlier variants to get up and running.

Taiwan News: Central Epidemic Command Center (CECC) head Chen Shih-chung (陳時中) reaffirmed on Wednesday (Nov. 3) that Taiwan will not mandate COVID-19 vaccinations.

The CECC encourages people to get vaccinated but will not mandate vaccinations, Chen said, adding that the center does not want to see people lose rights inherent to them because they chose not to get the jabs, according to the report.

More leadership from the country that has been the most successful in the world at combating Covid. No doubt it will be ignored again.

Meanwhile we've got other countries screaming that society will collapse if we don't institute/enforce vaccine apartheid. At least we have a comparison - so guess time will tell if they were right - or just indulging a human desire to be bastards to their fellow man.

In Guangdong, the death rate from Covid is listed as 1 in 400. In Victoria, Australia, it's 1 in 25.

According to my normal skepticism, i'd say that was simply under-reporting in China - and over-reporting in Victoria (to scare people into getting vaxxed). But there may be other explanations.

Traditional Chinese Medicine: Lianhua Qingwen and artemisa (ai tsao)

Due to the corrupt control of drug regulation in the west, traditional medicines, which have worked for 1000's of years in China, are either banned in the west or discouraged. It's criminal that such remedies are not being investigated outside Asia.

Ivermectin: Banned outright in Australia - strongly discouraged in the US. But other countries are using it with good success - especially India. Is it being used in China? As much as i dislike totalitarianism, they're not going to be dictated to by major pharmaceutical companies wanting to rake in obscene profits when it comes to treating their populace if there's a cheap solution out there.

Obesity: Not a serious problem in Asian countries but a complicating factor in Covid

Interesting article by Sebastian Rushworth on a recent Swedish study. Worth a read if you want to know what the near-future looks like.

Even for the middle aged (50-64 years), who have better functioning immune systems and who should therefore respond more strongly to the vaccines, the vaccines are completely ineffective at preventing symptomatic disease by the four to six months mark. The only group for whom the vaccines are more than 50% effective by the four month mark is people under the age of 50 (for whom effectiveness at four to six months is 51%).

That's AZ, Pfizer, Moderna. Moderna is the best but only coz it's 3 times more potent than Pfizer. You'll get a couple more months but hang onto your arteries.

TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — Central Epidemic Command Center (CECC) head Chen Shih-chung (陳時中) said on Wednesday (Nov. 10) that a panel of experts has decided to suspend administering second doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech (BNT) COVID vaccine to children 12-17 years old amid concerns it may increase the risk of myocarditis.

Cases of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the outer lining of the heart) have been reported after BNT vaccination of children between 12 and 17 years of age. According to U.S. statistics, the risk of youths experiencing myocarditis after receiving the second BNT dose is 10 times higher than after the first dose, CNA reported.

Luckily in Australia there have been zero cases somehow for either dose - or zero reported in the media anyway. It's still full-steam ahead for children.

One has to wonder how much transparency there is in any reporting of child deaths due to the vaccine. Headlines like this are a flash in the pan:

13-Year-Old Dies in Sleep After Receiving Pfizer COVID Vaccine; CDC Investigating

They appear and are quickly forgotten, and we never learn what caused such deaths. There was that case very similar to this one from many months ago. Do they ever report their findings?

One has to wonder how much transparency there is in any reporting of child deaths due to the vaccine. Headlines like this are a flash in the pan:

13-Year-Old Dies in Sleep After Receiving Pfizer COVID Vaccine; CDC Investigating

They appear and are quickly forgotten, and we never learn what caused such deaths. There was that case very similar to this one from many months ago. Do they ever report their findings?

My guess: At the heart of Covid there is a cultural war going on. Those that questioned the origin or were vaccine/lose-all-my-freedoms hesitant are a threat to established science culture which loves telling everyone what's good for them and trading off their the science rightness.

When people feel their culture is under attack they close ranks - become reactive, emotional. As it turns out their ranks are large strong ones. So we've now got a situation where doctors, to avoid supplying fuel to those they fear would seek to use the info against their culture, are inclined to under-report adverse effects. It's a normal human reaction. Only trouble is they have abnormal power.

This video contains a pro-bike rider referred for psychiatric treatment when he complained of heart problems.
https://youtu.be/H7inaTiDKaU?t=1

This phenomenon keeps cropping up - doctors sweeping adverse effects under the carpet. No doubt they think they are doing the right thing - to counter vaccine hesitancy - coz they believe that vaccines are the silver bullet for Covid.

(a) It's a big assumption to think vaccines will stop Covid when the available info says efficacy wanes to zero in 4-6 months - and it doesn't stop the virus spreading anyway coz vaxxed people can still catch/spread it

(b) It risks further eroding trust in science/medical professionals that already took a battering with the origin cover-up

Do they realize they are undermining the very thing they're trying to protect? Or are they too arrogant to see that?

News: Dan Petrovic describes himself as an avid “pro-vaxxer” who has long advocated vaccines to his more hesitant friends – so it was a “comedy twist” when he was the one who suffered a rare side effect.

The marketing executive, 42, spent six weeks after his second Pfizer shot with constant chest pains, which his GP ultimately said was likely a mild case of pericarditis, or inflammation of the lining around the heart.

Interestingly, 6 weeks off work with severe pain is considered 'mild'. I'd hate to see the severe cases.

Petrovic: This wasn’t a little bit of pain, this hits really hard and it was lingering for a long time. It’s a debilitating condition – can’t work, can’t walk, can’t walk up and down the stairs, can’t play with my daughter.

Mr Petrovic says one thing concerns him. Neither his cardiologist nor his GP would submit an adverse event report to the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA).

Petrovic: I asked my doctor, ‘Are you going to submit this to the TGA as suspected pericarditis?'

He said, ‘You can go online to do it. I’m too busy.'

Similarly, his cardiologist, having ruled out more serious myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart itself, would not submit a report as he didn’t “see any damage” on his scans

News: A “fit and healthy” car mechanic who got vaccinated to keep his job says his life has been turned “upside down” since suffering a stroke two days after his second Pfizer shot.

Peter Lee, 36: I was given a date until the end of November – if you’re not vaccinated then you won’t be able to work. Now everyone’s saying, ‘We don’t know what’s causing it so we can’t really do anything for you.’

News: (A) large study from the UK in August did find an increased risk of stroke associated with Pfizer.

Health Dept spokeswoman: Stroke is not a recognised adverse event. The TGA is aware of the study referred to and is considering it as part of our ongoing safety monitoring of Covid vaccines.

This provides valuable data that helps us identify potential safety issues and, where appropriate, take regulatory action such as including new safety concerns in the product information. Large-scale vaccination means that some people will experience a new illness within a few days or weeks of vaccination.

These events are often coincidental, rather than being caused by the vaccine, therefore any attempts to link the two based on a temporal association alone is misleading.

Misleading? Give me a break. How about the large-scale study - was that coincidental or misleading? If you're refusing to accept its findings then you're not gonna accept anything, especially individuals reporting stroke that you can brush off.

Do you guys really know what you're doing? By lying, you're breaking every sacred oath of your profession - trashing its reputation. You really think that's the best play here?

Aside: I've noticed News (Murdoch) has shit their pants since they saw the size of the protests in Melbourne last weekend. A week ago they were happily printing shock-horror-anti-vax-hesitant stories - downplaying/misreporting the protests.

TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — An 18-year-old woman has died following her inoculation with the Pfizer-BioNTech (BNT) vaccine, while a middle-school student is recovering from myocarditis after receiving a BNT jab.

Central Epidemic Command Center (CECC) Spokesperson Chuang Jen-hsiang (莊人祥) on Tuesday (Nov. 16) said that six people were reported on Monday (Nov. 15) to have died following vaccinations. Among these cases, the youngest was an 18-year-old woman who had a history of suffering from cancer.

That's the kind of reporting you would never get in Australia. If 6 people a day are dying in Taiwan from vaccines then you can assume 6 are dying in Australia - but never gets reported.

The media screams outrage because their reporters are getting chased down the streets by angry protestors who are fed-up with this blanket censorship. Try reporting the truth you lying pricks - maybe you can claw back some respect. Any way you look at Covid, the media has been a key part in the War on Freedom.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1460408244346650624

There has been a frightening solidarity amongst the triumvirate of Health/Science experts - Politicians - the Media. May have seemed nice when you had the whip hand but now your mega-lies at the heart of Covid are being exposed by netizens - get ready to reap what you sowed.

Dan won't know - Latrell Mitchell is one of the biggest stars (physically & talent-wise) in the NRL (rugby). He's also Aboriginal. Has a contrary bent.

He reacted on Instagram (which i don't have) to a post about a shopkeeper in the NT who photocopied a directive from the NT govt and put it on the window:

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The wording is interesting - vulnerable people - including un-vaxxed and Aboriginals - that need to be kept secure - outside.

This is the great danger to the establishment - sports stars bucking the system. You can have all the erudite-types you like poking holes in the messaging - and you need them - but when it's a sports star with however-many followers doing it - you've got a problem.

News: (A) large study from the UK in August did find an increased risk of stroke associated with Pfizer.

There is a steady trickle of these events being reported, then downplayed. Taiwan seems to do a good job of actually following up on deaths and other 'negative outcome' events. Taiwan News actually followed up on a woman who died after getting the vaccine.

The article you cite had this in it regarding stroke risk of the vaccine:

The University of Oxford-led team also found an increased risk of stroke after the Pfizer jab - but again at a much lower rate than after infection.

My question is, at a much lower rate for who? Certainly not the people who died after getting the vaccine. I realize that such studies are meant to account for this question demographically and such, but that data can be twisted and baked as you like.

The fact is, stroke in COVID patients happens irregularly and unpredictably, just as stroke in vaccine recipients happens irregularly and unpredictably, so to say someone who died or became permanently disabled by a vaccine is somehow better off for getting it is absurd.

My question is, at a much lower rate for who? Certainly not the people who died after getting the vaccine. I realize that such studies are meant to account for this question demographically and such, but that data can be twisted and baked as you like.

My point here was that those people getting strokes from the vaccine may indeed, for reasons we do not understand, in fact be far more likely to get strokes from the vaccine than others, and far less likely to get stroke from covid (or get covid at all) than others.

So, yes, for some people, the vaccine may present less a risk of stroke than covid, but for others, it may indeed be the opposite. Until we understand the mechanics of all that, it's reckless to simply state that everyone is less likely to suffer stroke from vaccine than covid. That's just not supported by the science.

Those dying from a vaccine-induced stroke may, for whatever reason, be very resistant to covid.

My point here was that those people getting strokes from the vaccine may indeed, for reasons we do not understand, in fact be far more likely to get strokes from the vaccine than others, and far less likely to get stroke from covid (or get covid at all) than others.

There's very little data about the specifics of Covid deaths. A lot of people die 'with Covid', as opposed to 'from Covid' - so it's hard to know what's what.

There was this study, which got virtually zero media attention:

FDA report finds all-cause mortality higher among vaccinated

Pfizer's clinical trials found 24% higher all-cause mortality rate among the vaccinated compared to placebo group.

A follow-up assessment of participants completed on March 13th of this year looked at the overall health outcomes of the trial participants, six months after they received either the COVID vaccine or the saline solution injection.

However, the FDA justifying its August 2021 approval for the vaccine did not find a link between the vaccine and increased mortality risk, noting that the majority of side-effects were mild .. ranging from fatigue and headache to muscle pain, chills, joint pain, fever, and swelling.

There's some anecdotal evidence that vaccines will 'bring-out' existing ailments. So if you're elderly and suffering from a particular disease, then the vaccine can amplify that - though the cause of death will be put down to the pre-existing disease, not the vaccine.

If that is true - i don't know if it is - but if it is - you could argue global vaccination represents a mass-cull.

This might be premature but if it kicks on it has the potential to put the entire vax/lockdown program back to square-1. A possibility that was always on the cards - and the fatal flaw with using man-made tech solutions to solve man-made problems.

FT: De Oliveira said there were traits present in the new variant that have previously been associated with high transmissibility. “And the key question to be answered is what exactly is the effect on the vaccines.”

Soumya Swaminathan, the chief scientist of the WHO, said the new variant had “a number of worrying mutations in the spike protein”.

Just in time for the holidays too, East and West, lots and lots of international travel about to happen.

Here's a BBC video on the new variant.

I find the following excerpt of this story on USA Today confusing:

Omicron's mutations could possibly reduce current vaccines' effectiveness, but are unlikely to eliminate their benefit, according to Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of Brown University’s School of Public Health.

"There are a series of mutations in key regions that may impact effectiveness of our vaccines," tweeted Jha on Friday. "Render vaccines useless? No. Super unlikely."

What does that mean? Are they going to consider 20% effectiveness as a benefit?

Moderna's strategy involves three options for boosting COVID-19 vaccination, should omicron prove problematic for current vaccines.

The three options, according to a Friday release from the company: A higher dose booster, shots currently being studied that are designed to "anticipate mutations such as those that have emerged in the Omicron variant" and an omicron-specific booster — which is already in the works.

Let's examine these three options:
1. A higher dose booster. Clear enough. But of course the safety of that hasn't been studied.
2. shots currently being studied that are designed to "anticipate mutations such as those that have emerged in the Omicron variant" I don't think they could possibly be less clear. Does this mean they have some new vaccine in the works that hasn't been tested? What does it mean?
3. an omicron-specific booster -- again, does this refer to essentially a new vaccine that hasn't gone through any safety studies?

Andy Slavitt, who previously served as President Joe Biden's White House senior adviser for COVID response, said in a tweet that both Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech have estimated a vaccine to combat a new variant could be developed in about 3 months, with regulatory and logistical hurtles to follow.

So, new vaccine in three months, with regulatory and logistical hurtles to follow. No doubt those hurtles for this new vaccine will be set ridiculously low.

"If we start in early December, new vaccines could be available by summer in much of the world," Slavitt tweeted.

What? So, new vaccine developed and safety signed off on in the course of six or seven months? And I'm supposed to have confidence in that?

Multiple media organizations on Friday reported Pfizer-BioNTech is studying the new variant and expects data within weeks. If warranted, a targeted vaccine could be developed within 6 weeks and ship within 100 days, the reports say.

There you go. A targeted, i.e., new, vaccine shipping in three months according to Pfizer. Who is watching out for safety?

One more concerning excerpt from the USA Today story regarding Merck's covid pill:

Additionally, the FDA flagged a concern that Merck's drug led to small changes in the coronavirus' signature spike protein, which it uses to penetrate human cells. Theoretically, FDA cautioned, those changes could lead to dangerous new variants. Regulators also noted that Merck collected far less safety data overall on its drug than was gathered for other COVID-19 therapies.

How can they possibly allow a drug, not a cure mind you, just a drug to treat minor illness, that may create new variants?

Additionally, the FDA flagged a concern that Merck's drug led to small changes in the coronavirus' signature spike protein, which it uses to penetrate human cells. Theoretically, FDA cautioned, those changes could lead to dangerous new variants. Regulators also noted that Merck collected far less safety data overall on its drug than was gathered for other COVID-19 therapies.

How can they possibly allow a drug, not a cure mind you, just a drug to treat minor illness, that may create new variants?

But wait - there's more!

News: The drugmaker said the experimental pill, molnupiravir, was shown to be 30 per cent effective in fighting hospitalisations and deaths in a study of 1433 patients.

The regulator has said molnupiravir is effective in combating serious Covid-19 illness and death, but that they want to vet it for birth defect and pregnancy risks.

FDA scientists said their review identified several possible risks, including toxicity to developing foetuses and birth defects that were identified in studies of the pill in animals.

Meanwhile, Ivermectin, from the same company (Merck), remains banned because "not enough studies have been done". How can you develop a whole new drug that's 30% effective, may create new variants/cause birth defects - then push that over a proven safe/cheap drug that appeared to be very effective in India?

Meanwhile, Ivermectin, from the same company (Merck), remains banned because "not enough studies have been done". How can you develop a whole new drug that's 30% effective, may create new variants/cause birth defects - then push that over a proven safe/cheap drug that appeared to be very effective in India?

Simple. Cheap and effective is not conducive to profit, while expensive and marginally effective is very conducive to profit.

From Merck Sells Federally Financed Covid Pill to U.S. for 40 Times What It Costs to Make:
A five-day course of molnupiravir, the new medicine being hailed as a “huge advance” in the treatment of Covid-19, costs $17.74 to produce, according to a report issued last week by drug pricing experts at the Harvard School of Public Health and King’s College Hospital in London. Merck is charging the U.S. government $712 for the same amount of medicine, or 40 times the price.

And then there's this from the Guardian: Merck wants Americans to pay $712 for a Covid drug that taxpayers helped develop

And those health threats? Small potatoes. In fact, as long as they're not too distasteful, they might even generate more profit because they'll need to be treated!

"If we start in early December, new vaccines could be available by summer in much of the world," Slavitt tweeted.

What? So, new vaccine developed and safety signed off on in the course of six or seven months? And I'm supposed to have confidence in that?

Multiple media organizations on Friday reported Pfizer-BioNTech is studying the new variant and expects data within weeks. If warranted, a targeted vaccine could be developed within 6 weeks and ship within 100 days, the reports say.

There you go. A targeted, i.e., new, vaccine shipping in three months according to Pfizer. Who is watching out for safety?

Yeah, isn't it supposed to take three years to do it properly?

There's another factor involved which will make it interesting. Preliminary reports from SA say it may be significantly less severe than previous strains.

Dr. Angelique Coetzee, South African Medical Association: Their symptoms were so different and so mild from those I had treated before. It presents mild disease with symptoms being sore muscles and tiredness for a day or two not feeling well. So far, we have detected that those infected do not suffer the loss of taste or smell. They might have a slight cough. There are no prominent symptoms.

At what point does the risk-benefit equation tilt towards abandoning experimental vaccines (and lockdowns)? Particularly for the young.

For sure the drug companies are going to push their drugs no matter what - but will anyone in authority have the guts to stand up to them?

(Funny aside: WHO skipped a couple of letters in the Greek alphabet, including Xi, to get to Omicron)

Paul Kelly, CHO, Aus: In terms of the vaccines. There is no solid evidence at the moment that there is a problem with that.

BS decipher: Normally the leading-experts say 'no evidence' when they want to ostrich-head a glaring reality - no evidence of a lab-leak, no evidence of adverse vax effects, etc - but here we have a 'no solid evidence'.

That means there is evidence that even we can't deny - but we'll fend it off for as long as we can - in order to not fuel vaccine-hesitancy. If people realize the vaccine doesn't work then how will we get them to keep taking it?

The question as to why you would want people to take a vaccine that doesn't work remains unanswered.

Greg Hunt, Health Minister: The advice remains that the broad-spectrum nature of the vaccines is likely to cover emerging variants, and that's been the case with Delta and that's been the case with other variants that have emerged.

'The advice' - another favoured way to talk BS - not 'the evidence' or the 'the data' - but 'the advice' which we as politicians can conveniently hide behind. When it becomes impossible to deny that the vaccines no longer work - we'll just say the 'the advice' has changed.

Hunt: Australians do trust the vaccination program. Yes, there's been the noise of a fringe, but they're losing the battle. The vaccinators are winning the battle, and I am very hopeful that this early high level of booster acceptance will continue right through the program.

Are you sure about that? The last two weekends we've seen the fringe stage world-record sized protests in Melbourne - doesn't look like you're winning. Looks like a growing uprising.

Been scanning the news for the critical info: Is Omicron as severe as previous versions?

Beyond the first report from SA that it's not, there's been nothing. There were a few reports that it needs to be looked into - but that tapered off. If it's milder - it could be a game-saver. It's vital information. Should take a few days tops to work it out. I hope it doesn't end up taking as long as it's taken to do the Ivermectin studies.

No, better make Covid-hay while the sun shines:

News: The NSW Government has increased penalties for non-compliance with the isolation, testing and quarantine requirements to $5,000 for individuals (from $1,000) and $10,000 for corporations (from $5,000).

The new changes will be in place from midnight tonight (December 1st).

Premier Dominic Perrottet: (I)t is important we take the necessary steps to protect the community and adopt measures that will allow us to learn to live with COVID. We will continue to make any necessary changes as we receive updated information. Our overriding message, as always, is to continue to get vaccinated. It is still the best way to protect yourself and your family.

If it's milder - it could be a game-saver.

This is what I've been wondering. If it's milder and it beats out Delta, it could be the beginning of the end of serious covid disease. Nobody's talking about that. It would sure throw a wrench into the covid industry that has ballooned.

If it spreads easier than Delta, and provides some protection against it, then it will become dominant. This is one of the advantages (to us, not the virus) of a virus that mutates easily -- it will eventually mutate itself into something harmless. The disadvantage is that it's harder to maintain an effective vaccine.

Can you imagine the meetings happening right now in big pharma? They're looking at either a new gold mine created by the need for a new vaccine, or game over. Notice how much they've been pushing the new vaccine story and ignoring the game over one.

Can you imagine the meetings happening right now in big pharma? They're looking at either a new gold mine created by the need for a new vaccine, or game over. Notice how much they've been pushing the new vaccine story and ignoring the game over one.

Yeah, I'm imagining those meetings:

We say there's "no evidence" it's less severe - we put out an all-new-improved vax - get everybody to take it - then when symptoms are mild we say our vax saved the day!

WHO: There is currently no information to suggest that symptoms associated with omicron are different from those from other variants.

Fox: WHO says it could still take some time to get a full understanding of the threat it poses, but the agency says there's no evidence symptoms are different.

It's ridiculous to say there's "no evidence" - or it will "take some time" - there must be thousands of people infected by now - is it worse, the same, or more mild?

Tell the truth. Why is that so hard?

I've gotta deduce from the simple fact they're refusing to release info that it's milder.

BBC: Dr Albert Bourla .. said vaccines had helped save millions of lives during the pandemic, and without them the "fundamental structure of our society would be threatened".

I'd argue it's been threatened even with vaccines. The last thing the fundamental structure of society needs is people realizing they're being fed a series of whoppers by the fundamental structuralists for the sake of a drug experiment. Judging by the growing protests, it seems they are.

It's one of those things: Good strategy if you get away with it.

If you don't ...? But you're sure you will - that's the worrying bit.

BBC: Pfizer will generate at least $35bn of Covid vaccine sales this year and has seen its share price soar. .. People will be likely to need to have annual Covid vaccinations for many years to come, the head of Pfizer has told the BBC .. to maintain a "very high level of protection"

Dr Albert Bourla: The bottom line is millions of lives were saved. We have saved the global economy trillions of dollars. It is a strong incentive for innovation for the next pandemic.

But people will see that if they step up to the game, to bring something that saves lives and saves money, there is also a financial reward.

Yeah, the game part is fascinating.

BBC: The company is now working on an updated jab in response to the Omicron variant that could be ready in 100 days. ..(W)ithin a month or so, Pfizer says it will roll out a new formulation of the vaccine that can be stored for three months in a fridge, which Dr Bourla said, would make a "huge difference" for sub-Saharan African countries.

Thereby completing global vax-dominance.

Pfizer has also developed an antiviral pill, Paxlovid, which in trials cut hospital admissions and deaths by nearly 90%.

Funny how hospitalization and death is not 90% lower than last year - pre-drug intervention. Remember Pfizer was 90+% effective at preventing infection - in the beginning. 100% at preventing death.

Yeah, but they would have been deader if they hadn't been jabbed.

BBC: Pfizer is also conducting Covid-vaccine trials in the under-fives.

Dr Albert Bourla: Covid in schools is thriving. This is disturbing, significantly, the educational system, and there are kids that will have severe symptoms.

So there is no doubt in my mind that the benefits, completely, are in favour of doing it. (vaxxing under-5's!)

For those that are just afraid, the only emotion of human beings stronger than fear is love.

So I am using always this argument: that the decision to get another vaccine is not going to influence only your health, it is going to affect the health of others and particularly the health of the people you love the most, because they are the ones that you will interact with. So take the courage to overcome your fears and do the right thing.

For many years to come...

Fox: South Carolina Republican Rep. Ralph Norman on Thursday introduced legislation that could force the Food and Drug Administration to release all documents relating to the coronavirus vaccine within the next 100 days.

The legislation is a direct response to a request made last month by the federal agency to prolong releasing data on COVID vaccines for up to 55 years.

Norman: How does a vaccine that receives approval in 108 days now require 55 years just to release information? It sounds like the beginning of a very bad joke.

Good point. I can't think of a better wise-crack than that.

The FDA claims the following according to the article:

The FDA does not have the personnel or resources in its FOIA office to process plaintiff’s FOIA request at a rate of more than 80,000 pages per month," the defense argued.

I call bullshit. 80,000 pages is nothing and people don't have to do it. That's what we now have AI for.

For fuck sakes, my $200 computer can scan 80,000 pages for target phrases, names, etc. in less than a couple minutes. Who are these fuckwads trying to fool?

I call bullshit. 80,000 pages is nothing and people don't have to do it. That's what we now have AI for.

For fuck sakes, my $200 computer can scan 80,000 pages for target phrases, names, etc. in less than a couple minutes. Who are these fuckwads trying to fool?

There have been a lot of things that fit into this category.

It started with Proximal Origin's "irrefutable" proof of natural origin (via pangolin) and the Lancet Statement saying China was "open and transparent". We know it's silly, so what does it mean when the world's leading experts are insisting silly things are true?

This is where deduction trumps science. If they're trying to sit on the data for 55 years, we can safely assume there's a reason for that.

Harvard-trained epidemiologist Eric Feigl-Ding: Mild my ass. The ‘highly transmissible’ Omicron variant is putting disproportionately large numbers of children under the age of 5 years old in hospitals.

Funny how five minutes after Pfizer starts an under-5's trial, a Harvard expert comes out saying Omicron is disproportionately affecting under 5's.

There's some chatter amongst scientists that Omicron was a lab-exit. The weirdly high number of mutations (32) seems suspicious.

If there were lab accidents before Covid, then you'd imagine the potential for lab-accidents now has gotten dramatically higher with the number of people around the world studying/experimenting on the virus.

There's also the coincidence that Africa was less than 5% vaxxed but didn't seem to be badly affected by Covid. (Not due to supply actually - Africans are very suspicious of westerners coming in doing experimental drug trials.) That must have been annoying for the global-vax industry. Was Omicron the solution to fix that?

Despite official channels continuing to whip up Omicron fear, more information is leaking out that Omicron is mild - may even be a way out of the pandemic.

That's terrible news for the vax industry. The best tactic now is suppress the 'mild' info as long as possible and speed up vaccination for small children - the last unvaxxed group in western societies - to sell as many jabs as we can before the party is over.

TGA: The TGA’s provisional approval of the Pfizer vaccine for 5 to 11-year-olds was based on a careful evaluation of available data to support its safety and efficacy among this age group.

Subject to advice from ATAGI, vaccinating the approximately 2.3 million children aged 5 to 11 in Australia will build on the rapid uptake of vaccination among children aged 12 to 15.

Safety and efficacy.

Safety: approx 2-3 children will win the vax death-lottery, 50 will have a serious injury. Compared to one death from Covid in a child with a serious underlying medical condition.

Efficacy: Against what? A disease that doesn't affect them? I'm sure the 'efficacy' rate will be through the roof. Look! We prevented serious illness against a disease that doesn't cause serious illness in children!

None of which takes Omicron into account. Why? Because the data is not being released by the health experts. Why? Because if it's mild, that will only cause vaccine hesitancy!

Is it normal for so many athletes to have serious heart problems?

This list is quite disturbing. I can't vouch for each case - it includes links to news stories. Worth a perusal.

https://goodsciencing.com/covid/71-athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-26-die-after-covid-shot/

Dec 9 (Reuters) - U.S. regulators on Thursday expanded eligibility for COVID-19 vaccine booster shots to 16- and 17-year-olds, as public health officials have urged Americans to get a third shot due to concerns about the new Omicron variant.

Even WHO says no-one has died from Omicron (whilst still commending drug makers for making a special Omicron vaccine)

This could be the next battle - getting politicians and health experts to 'let go'. Sounds simple enough - you'd think everyone would be overjoyed the pandemic is waning - but will they be willing to relinquish all that money/power? Or will their desire to 'keep us safe' prove too strong?

Covid has been a huge hack for Big-Everything authorities re their wet-dream of mass bio-surveillance. That's been achieved in spades. You can't go shopping without scanning your vax-ap on your phone while public sentiment has been leveraged animal farm style to vilify/isolate anyone questioning that. We're a short hop and step away from a DNA app on your phone to gain free entrance into the new-normal society.

It's back to the line from the John Donne poem:

As princes do in time of action get
New taxes, and remit them not in peace
No winter shall abate the spring’s increase

Was the power/money bonanza from Covid for Scio-politics a lucky coincidence from a lab-accident caused by the same industry? It's either that or it was a deliberate release.

Covid has been a huge hack for Big-Everything authorities re their wet-dream of mass bio-surveillance. That's been achieved in spades. You can't go shopping without scanning your vax-ap on your phone while public sentiment has been leveraged animal farm style to vilify/isolate anyone questioning that. We're a short hop and step away from a DNA app on your phone to gain free entrance into the normal society.

Pandemic exploited to normalise mass surveillance, watchdog warns:

The COVID-19 pandemic was exploited as an excuse to further normalise surveillance and monitor an increasing number of daily activities of people around the world under the guise of public health, a tech watchdog warned on Thursday.

He cautioned that COVID-19 and the mass surveillance adopted in Europe and elsewhere over the last two years – such as contact-tracing apps and COVID-19 status certifications – are part of an “unprecedented social experiment in health surveillance”.

The Al Jazeera story references this report: Automating COVID responses. The impact of automated decision-making on the COVID-19 pandemic Tracing The Tracers 2021 report

He cautioned that COVID-19 and the mass surveillance adopted in Europe and elsewhere over the last two years – such as contact-tracing apps and COVID-19 status certifications – are part of an “unprecedented social experiment in health surveillance”.[/i]

Automating COVID responses. The impact of automated decision-making on the COVID-19 pandemic Tracing The Tracers 2021 report

Increasingly, this seems to be the main point of the exercise. A paradigm shift into normalized bio-state.

Once champions of Astra Zeneca - even manufacturing billions of doses locally, Australia has now unceremoniously dumped it.

There was no announcement of course - or explanation why - just this non-announcement.

Aus Govt: ATAGI recommends a single booster dose for those who completed their primary COVID-19 vaccine course at least 5 months ago.

ATAGI has recommended the Pfizer (Comirnaty) and Moderna (Spikevax) COVID-19 vaccines as the approved vaccine for COVID-19 booster vaccinations.

So boosters for all - but forget about AZ. That's an indirect admission that it doesn't work. If it works then why has it been officially scrapped from the recommended list?

Which leaves us with the radical mRNA vaccines - which work for few months - supposedly. Just hang onto your heart muscles.

World Tribune: In a stunning admission, virologist Dr. Andrew Hill acknowledged in a zoom call that publication of his study could lead to the deaths of at least a half million people.

In defending his reversal on the effectiveness of ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19, he discussed his “difficult situation” and said, “I’ve got this role where I’m supposed to produce this paper and we’re in a very difficult, delicate balance.”

Andrew Hill, PhD, is a senior visiting Research Fellow in Pharmacology at Liverpool University (and) an advisor for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the Clinton Foundation. As a researcher for the WHO evaluating ivermectin, Hill wielded enormous influence over international guidance for the drug’s use.

Hill had previously authored a analysis of ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19 that found the drug overwhelmingly effective.

On Jan. 6 of 2021, Hill testified enthusiastically before the NIH COVID-19 Treatment Guidlelines Panel in support of ivermectin’s use. Within a month, however, Hill found himself in what he describes as a “tricky situation.” Under pressure from his funding sponsors, Hill then published an unfavorable study. Ironically, he used the same sources as in the original study. Only the conclusions had changed.

The pressure was in the form a 40 million dollar grant. The insinuation was either you backflip on your support for Ivermectin or there goes your money.

This, if it's true, is cold-hearted mass murder - for the sake of drug-profits. The guilty parties include all the institutions the people fund (WHO, NIH, FDA, and all their equivalents in western countries) and are meant to trust for medical advice - in our greatest moment of need.

What the fuck kind of world are we living in?

What the fuck kind of world are we living in?

I'm afraid we live in a world in which drug companies strive not to make drugs to improve health, but to make and market drugs to increase profit, full stop. Drugs that don't increase profit will be bought and buried, or destroyed otherwise.

Can you imagine a magic pill that cured all disease forever? That pill would put all these companies out of business. These companies want drugs that either: 1) may very well cure a disease, but at a very large markup and huge profit, or, 2) may cure symptoms and be needed indefinitely by patients, at as much of a markup as the market will accept, which is a lot when people are in pain or they need the drug to stay alive.

Any drug that does not fit either of those models will be killed. A cheap, effective drug that cures disease is a Big Pharma killer. In short, they need sickness and disease to profit. It's a balancing act for them.

You don't see Big Pharma and government aggressively attacking the true killers in modern society -- horrible diets, lack of exercise, bad air, bad water.. they're all pretty quiet about that. Sure, they're attacking tobacco, now that they have vaping to sell.

What the fuck kind of world are we living in?

I'm afraid we live in a world in which drug companies strive not to make drugs to improve health, but to make and market drugs to increase profit, full stop. Drugs that don't increase profit will be bought and buried, or destroyed otherwise.

So that's strong motive there for a deliberate release. Was Covid a product placement to expand a market?

A couple of years ago i'd thought that was far-fetched. Not getting that feeling now though.

Which leaves us with the radical mRNA vaccines - which work for few months - supposedly. Just hang onto your heart muscles.

Oh, don't worry about that. They're probably already working on drugs to address the damage done.

Mark Rayner: PPSD (post pandemic stress disorder) is a very real problem on a massive scale. (It's) a trauma time-bomb.

As well as the condition itself with all its immediate problems, one of the biggest collateral issues is the affect it can have on heart health. It is widely recognised that reducing stress and mental health problems is crucial to the prevention and recovery of cardiovascular events such as heart attacks and strokes.

We are talking about as many as 300,000 new patients with heart issues.

Firstly, i'm not sure it's right to equate PPSD with PTSD. Enduring a lockdown is unpleasant, but not the same as enduring a rape, for example.

Tahir Hussain, senior vascular surgeon at Northwick Park Hospital: I’ve seen a big increase in thrombotic-related vascular conditions in my practice. Far younger patients are being admitted and requiring surgical and medical intervention than prior to the pandemic. I believe many of these cases are a direct result of the increased stress and anxiety levels caused from the effects of PPSD.

Not to say that lockdowns don't cause health problems, but it's telling that of the three medical professionals quoted in the article not one of them draws even a possible connection between the surge in thrombotic-related vascular conditions in far younger patients and the elephant in the room - vaccines.

As the old adage says: to solve a problem, first of all you need to admit there is a problem

On a related point that Dan touched on earlier, coronary heart disease was already Australia’s biggest cause of death, accounting for 17,731 deaths in 2019. It's interesting the world has been refashioned into a globalized bio-state to deal with Covid, but alcohol, fat, and sugar are left untouched. In fact at every ad break in the Ashes cricket coverage this summer, they're plugged relentlessly.

Taiwan News: Of the 25 who received two doses of BNT, only five developed a neutralizing ability against the two Omicron variants, and vaccine efficiency dropped to 20-24%. As for the 25 inoculated with two doses of CoronaVac, none produced a detectable antibody against Omicron.

The study's authors concluded the Omicron variant is able to greatly reduce the efficacy of two doses of major COVID-19 vaccines. They suggested that recipients of these vaccines are at great risk of a breakthrough infection and those previously infected with COVID could be reinfected.

The drug advocates are still saying it reduces deaths, but afaik there's only been one death from Omicron in the world - and zero in SA where vaccine uptake is very low.

So it appears fresh-air offers equally strong protection against Omicron.

Not to say Omicron can't mutate into a more lethal version - it's possible - but vaccines that work for five minutes - or not at all - are not going to protect us against that.

With AZ now finally recognized as being 100% useless, why aren't recipients subject to the same punishments as the unvaxxed?

According to THE science, they are at the same risk of catching, spreading, dying from Covid as the unvaxxed - so why the continuing apartheid?

Ans: Coz it's go nothing to do with science - it's all about finding a scapegoat (that's not the scientists who caused Covid in the first place).

Meanwhile, funny how there's no talk of 'breakthrough' infections anymore - used to be a buzz word - now you never hear it. Australia is getting over 3000 cases per day - they are all 'breakthroughs'.

Meanwhile, funny how there's no talk of 'breakthrough' infections anymore - used to be a buzz word - now you never hear it. Australia is getting over 3000 cases per day - they are all 'breakthroughs'.

Excellent point! I hadn't considered that, but it's a glaring change in message. There just isn't the discussion on the extent of breakthrough (i.e., vaccine failure) cases. I wonder when the closed door meeting was held in which the order came down to censor the message.

Dec 17 (Reuters): The (Imperial College London) study involved AstraZeneca and Pfizer vaccines.

Depending on the estimates used for vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic infection from the Delta variant, this translates into vaccine effectiveness of between 0% and 20% after two doses.

Depending on the estimates? I'm guessing it's closer to 0% than 20. Either way it means
there's no scientific basis whatsoever for vax passports - or if there is, then you don't get one unless you've been boosted, which will be valid for a few months, then you'll need to get boosted again, and so on - until Covid goes away or you croak it from heart problems.

If the unvaxxed are so dangerous that they need to be locked out of society then the same must apply to double-vaxxed. The fact that it doesn't, proves vaccine mandates are purely an exercise in power enforcement and bastardry.

The Doherty Institute has leaked its modelling suggesting Australia would hit 200 000 cases per day by the end of Jan (5 weeks away) and 4000 per day hospitalized unless it reverted to its pet draconian restrictions.

This despite the mysterious lack of studies done on the seriousness of Omicron. Over a month ago we were told there wasn't enough data to decide whether Omicron was milder that previous strains. Amazingly, we're still hearing that same line. It's simply not plausible that there could still be no information.

Getting the BS decipherer out again, you have to deduce that there is info which shows Omicron is milder - but we can't say that coz it might cause Booster-hesitancy. So instead of giving you the hard-facts, we'll leak this silly modelling to scare everyone into believing they still need us to enforce the bio-state.

The PM Scott Morrison is taking a surprisingly sensible approach - similar to the Taiwan model whereby you encourage people to adopt certain behaviours rather than forcing them to do it. Masks for example -instead of issuing edicts where it's masks on or masks off, develop a mentality where people can take personal responsibility. But somehow that's anathema to the health experts coz they are hooked on the rush of totalitarian control.

The hardest thing now is shaking off these power-addicts and getting them out of our lives.

BBC: (A) study in South Africa .. points to the Omicron wave being milder.

It showed people were 70-80% less likely to need hospital treatment, depending on whether Omicron is compared to previous waves, or other variants currently circulating.

Prof Cheryl Cohen, National Institute for Communicable Diseases, South Africa: Compellingly, together our data really suggest a positive story of a reduced severity of Omicron compared to other variants.

There are other studies but the SA one might be the most informative since they have a low vaccine uptake rate - so we know it's not just the vax that's reducing severity.

BBC: The University of Hong Kong found Omicron was better at infecting the airways, but worse at getting into the deep tissues of the lungs, where it can do more damage.

Great. Stay the fuck out of the deep lung tissue. If you can exist in the airways then we can all get along fine.

Although Omicron could be a blessing, i can't see any reason why it couldn't mutate again to become more severe - especially with thousands of labs around the world madly passaging it through humanized mice and god knows what to achieve exactly that result.

The bottom-line is that those in greatest danger of an adverse Omicron effect are the elderly with co-morbidities - and the the drug companies.

The studies were all over the place yesterday, 211223, regarding the vastly lowered risk of hospitalization with Omicron, but today they're hard to find. It's as if they've been wiped off the front page for the holidays.

Bad news travels fast. In this case, good news gets buried.

Here's a screenshot of the Google News front page from a couple days ago.

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No wonder people are confused. God forbid we get good, solid, scientific, daily summaries.

Stephane Bancel, Chief Executive, Moderna: We have a number of new vaccines in development, for example against influenza or against the RS virus, which causes a respiratory disease. We can combine these three mRNA vaccines into one dose and propose to governments to secure supplies for a certain amount for several years and then invest in a production facility in that country.

Moderna is not standing around twiddling its thumbs as Omicron threatens to ruin the drug bonanza - they've come up with a strategy to institutionalize mRNA vacs - get the various client countries opening local factories which will create a self-perpetuating incentive to keep the market pumping. Think of all the jobs it will create!

Bangladesh has a vax rate of 27% but is averaging only one death a day from Covid. Some studies have suggested the secret to their success is povidone-iodine used as a nasal spray or mouthwash.

Study: In this study, a statistically significant proportion of nasopharyngeal clearance with all strengths of PVP-I NI and PVP-I NS (compared to the corresponding controls) is observed, so our recommendation is to use PVP-I prophylactically in nasopharynx as well as oropharynx for prevention of COVID-19.

Better pick up some quick before it gets banned!

This again highlights the potential criminality of the Covid-pharma cartel. Trillions spent on experimental vaccines, and now experimental mRNA pills, while simple, cheap, safe, effective easily accessible medicines are ignored or outright banned. Many people have died as a result of being denied these treatments.

There is even some evidence that gargling salt water is effective. That would be funny - saline solutions are used as a placebo in vax trials - so if you gargled your placebo instead of injecting it then you would end up with better protection against Covid than two shots of an experimental vaccine!

Very interesting! I did some poking around and found this related study on clinicaltrials.gov:

Gargling and Nasal Rinses to Reduce Oro- and Nasopharyngeal Viral Load in Patients With COVID-19

For this study, 48 patients who have been diagnosed with COVID-19 will be randomly assigned to four study groups: control, saline, chlorhexidine gluconate, and povidone-iodine. Each patient will be asked to gargle with a solution of either saline, chlorhexidine gluconate, or povidone-iodine or nothing (control group) as well as spray the same solution in their nose four times daily. Patients will then be tested for COVID-19 once daily in the evening for 7 days and viral loads will be measured.

Notice the dates on this, a start date of April 2020 with completion of May 2020. Cheap, fast, simple study, right? Well, this one was canceled.

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Granted, it could have been canceled for all sorts of reasons. It may have been redesigned and launched with different criteria. It would be nice to know why.

I did a search on ClinicalTrials.gov using Condition or disease = covid-19 and Other terms = gargle. It returned 40 results, the vast majority of which are taking place outside the US. Of those inside the US, 7 are in 'active recruiting' status, one is 'active' and a whopping 3 have been canceled or withdrawn. The US is the only country showing canceled or withdrawn studies under this search criteria.

A Spanish study showed no statistically significant difference in viral load after use of mouthwash.

I can't find any published discussion of this completed study out of Stanford on the efficacy of povidone-iodine (PVP-I) containing nasal sprays as compared to isotonic saline nasal sprays in COVID-19 positive patients, but the data seems to suggest that they all work to some degree. (See the Analysis Population Description section.)

There's clearly a lot of scientific interest in using mouthwash and nasal sprays consisting of commerically available ingredients, just not much in the US and certainly not in the media.

Here's another study showing effectiveness of nose spray + gargling with a commerically available product: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34411199/.

The incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection was significantly lower in the "experimental" group (two participants of 114, 1.8%) compared to the "control" group (thirty-three participants of 117, 28.2%), with an 84.8% efficiency. We conclude that the mouth and nasal rinse with AgNPs helps in the prevention of SARS-CoV-2 infection in health personnel who are exposed to patients diagnosed with COVID-19.

Related page on ClinicalTrials.gov.https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/study/NCT04894409

Here's a study that shows an overwhelming effectiveness of providone-iodine gargle.

Granted, it's a very small study. Interestingly, it suggests that even gargling with tap water has some effect, but the providone-iodine group hit a 100% negative on PCR tests after 12 days.

Nicely researched!

Those that are either unvaxxed - or have had two doses but the last one was more than 4 months ago - have a right to know whether there are simple accessible remedies that (a) are protective (b) decrease severity.

I've said this a few times but it keeps coming back to me: the most frightening thing is the western experts/media must be convinced they're gonna get away with it.

If they don't, it's mass murder.

Kylie Quinn, a vaccine expert at RMIT University, told ABC News: "If you had 10 people who you knew were going to be infected ... and you vaccinated those people before they were exposed, nine out of those 10 people would not develop (COVID-19)."

Omicron infection appears to protect against Covid delta variant and could displace it, South Africa study finds

The immune response of people infected with omicron appears to increase protection against delta more than fourfold, according to a study from South Africa.

This could be great news for the world, bad news for the vaccine industry and power mongers.

This could be great news for the world, bad news for the vaccine industry and power mongers.

Yep. If i have to get Covid, then i want Omicron. In fact i'd rather get injected with a dose of Omicron than the vaccine.

The silly thing is that in many countries, including Australia, having a 'natural' infection is still not considered equal to having two-shots of vaccine - scratch - make that three shots.

That shows you right there it's got nothing to do with science - everything to do with entrenching vaccine makers into our lives.

Israel, dutifully following the recommendation of Pfizer and Moderna scientists, is now administering a 4th shot.

However, other scientist, and anyone with common sense, is warning of 'immune system fatigue'.

Then what do we do?

Meanwhile, reports are saying 96% of Omicron patients in Germany were fully vaxxed - including 28% who were triple vaxxed.

Germany has a vax-rate of 71.1%. Even if the vaccine was the same as a placebo you'd still only expect 71.1% of cases amongst the vaxxed - but 96%?

Unsurprisingly, many countries such as Australia, have long since banned information regarding vax status of those infected with Covid. Occasionally stuff will get leaked to the media if an unvaxxed person dies, but everything else is strictly classified.

As with Covid origins, we have to use deduction to navigate areas where info is suppressed. Why is the info being withheld by vaccine advocates? Because it's not favourable to the pro-vax movement.

Robert Malone, inventor of the mRNA technology, has been banned from Twitter for posting a link to a video he made warning against giving the vaccines to children - saying the risks associated are greater than those posed by Covid.

We didn't need any reminders of the normalized insanity that we find ourselves in, but that's one out of the box.

Here's a Joe Rogan interview with Dr. Peter McCullough. YouTube censored this interview.

I've only listened to the first 30 minutes, but this seems like an extremely sober, objective, highly qualified doctor discussing the history of covid with regards to early treatment and research. Can't have that!

Here's Dr. Malone on a Rogan podcast a couple days ago:

https://odysee.com/@altmedia96:2/dr-robert-malone-joe-rogan-experience-1093:e

Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3SCsueX2bZdbEzRtKOCEyT

I'm plagued by Dan's in my life - my farmer neighbour is Dan, another friend from Gold Coast is Dan, you're Dan, my nephew is Dan, and one of my subjects, the premier of Victoria is Dan...

Anyway, the Gold Coast Dan pointed out that Joe Rogan has become a media giant - which is true. Whereas the normal media giants have spent their time censoring/vilifying anyone questioning the origin of Covid or the long term social/medical consequences of vaccines and lockdowns, Rogan invites guests on and asks them questions. It's a simple formula but in today's world it's deemed radical and dangerous.

But it does resonate with a large audience - who are curious to find infromation. Meanwhile mainstream media is digging it's own grave of irrelevance.

There's a massive gap in the market in Australia for something similar. We've got one side who simply refuses to cover the origin whatsoever - even two years later - the public-funded broadcaster as done zero stories on the possibility of a lab-leak - zero.

The other side has done a scant few stories on it - dipping their toes in about a year after the event - but still carries on vilifying the vax-hesitant. No-one has made any attempts whatsoever to join the dots between the cover-up and the complicity of those involved - be they scientist or security organizations.

I'm plagued by Dan's in my life - my farmer neighbour is Dan, another friend from Gold Coast is Dan, you're Dan, my nephew is Dan, and one of my subjects, the premier of Victoria is Dan...

Ha! And I've never liked my name! I had a uni professor who went by Danny, and he once said something about never wanting to be a 'Dan'. But, Dan it is for me, like an old shoe. Fine. Here's a funny story that's somehow related. Decades ago I was on an all night fire watch in the woods. The forest service had done a controlled burn and three of us sat on top of a ridge all night to make sure the smoldering embers didn't ignite. We are all named Dan.

Anyway, the Gold Coast Dan pointed out that Joe Rogan has become a media giant - which is true. Whereas the normal media giants have spent their time censoring/vilifying anyone questioning the origin of Covid or the long term social/medical consequences of vaccines and lockdowns, Rogan invites guests on and asks them questions. It's a simple formula but in today's world it's deemed radical and dangerous.

This long form interview, or even the 30 minute to one hour podcasts, is really encouraging to see and it's taking off. People are hungry for it on some level. It's filling a void. I've started using Spotify just in the last few days in an effort to move away from YouTube, and I've found that there's a lot of quality podcasts available. Right now I'm listening to Lex Fridman #251, a podcast with Ray Dalio. I have mixed feelings about Dalio, but then I've never really listened to an extended interview with him nor have I read any of his books, so my perception is built entirely on soundbites and quotes. So far, it's an interesting interview and he has a keen perspective on history particularly with regards to money and power.

Another good podcast is Hardcore History with Dan Carlin.

I've found that there's a lot of quality podcasts available. Right now I'm listening to Lex Fridman #251, a podcast with Ray Dalio. I have mixed feelings about Dalio, but then I've never really listened to an extended interview with him nor have I read any of his books, so my perception is built entirely on soundbites and quotes. So far, it's an interesting interview and he has a keen perspective on history particularly with regards to money and power.

Another good podcast is Hardcore History with Dan Carlin.

Thanks for the links Dan to the Joe Rogan podcasts and other material. Hard to find open discussion these days.

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