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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea failure to even come close to an accurate prediction for this storm is entirely inexcusable. It&#039;s still not moving at any meaningful speed. It was stationary for over six hours while in its loop. </p>
<p>The following article states that seven Taiwan deaths have resulted, and that&#039;s an old article, out of Boston no less.</p>
<p><a href="http://bo.st/QhGUBc">http://bo.st/QhGUBc</a></p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 08:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty poor work from CWB i would have thought. Where&#039;s the passion for getting the correct info out there? Especially when it&#039;s of potentially life and death importance. The radar images from last night clearly showed that the typhoon was heading inland, 100&#039;s of kms south from where they were predicting it to go, but they neglected to correct their forecast track which still showed it staying well off the coast and just glancing the north east tip. Sometimes i wonder if they even bother looking at their own radar and sat images instead of just playing with their computer generated models.</p>
<p>The current situation looks pretty dire for central Taiwan. Would expect massive landslides and major damage. Those people really could have done with a bit more warning. Let&#039;s hope there aren&#039;t any lives lost due to this incompetent bungle.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.cwb.gov.tw/V7e/observe/radar/Data/MOS2_1024/2012-08-02_1400.2MOS0.jpg" alt="[image]"  /></p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 06:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The loop so far.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 02:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, the storm is doing a little loop. They&#039;re still saying it&#039;s going to shoot off to the NW, but that movement hasn&#039;t started yet. It looks like it&#039;s stalling over the middle of the island. The central west coast and mountains are going to get hammered.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are still saying the eye is going to graze the north eastern tip of Taiwan, but looking at this radar image it seems like it is ducking in well south of that and may make landfall in Ilan. Time will tell i guess. </p>
<p><img src="http://www.cwb.gov.tw/V7e/observe/radar/Data/MOS2_1024/2012-08-02_0120.2MOS0.jpg" alt="[image]"  /></p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That cell that was in the tail does appear to have largely dissipated, so i think that&#039;s pretty much it for us. Meanwhile, Ilan and Keelung are getting the brunt of it, though it&#039;s all in the front half - once that passes it&#039;ll be all over.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 11:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just had a lone gust come through from the south - not huge - but a step up from what it has been.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 09:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has started it&#039;s turn. Our rain is coming from the south now. This is when it gets ugly for us because it rains onto our only porch!</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 06:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It started raining just as I was reading your message. I think the heaviest rain will be when the tail of the storm comes our way, maybe tomorrow. The CWB is giving us only a 40% chance of rain tomorrow. That seems odd.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 04:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now it has weirdly calmed right down. The eye has edged just north of us so i guess that&#039;s the reason. May start to see a wind change soon, though the light breeze that i have at the moment is still coming from ne. </p>
<p>Guessing we will move into the rain stage of the typhoon later today or tonight.</p>
<p> <img src="http://www.cwb.gov.tw/V7/observe/satellite/Data/s5q/s5q-2012-08-01-11-00.jpg" alt="[image]"  /></p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 03:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting some massive gusts right now! It surprises me a bit considering the eye is not really that close to us. Need the shutters down coz it&#039;s window popping level.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 01:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed that huge cell south of Taiwan, and it&#039;s still there this morning. Odd, I got up this morning, the sun is out, it&#039;s breezy for sure but there&#039;s by standing outside you&#039;d think it had left town. Apparently not. </p>
<p>Once this thing heads west, that cell south of us is going to come north. The question seems to be which side of the island is going to get it. I&#039;d bet on Pingtung-Kaohsiung taking the brunt of it, but we&#039;ll see. It may sneak under the peninsula and give us show.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like your Beaufort Scale and yeah, has kicked up a notch in the last hour - with a few real house shakers. Must have a pretty big sphere of high wind this typhoon.</p>
<p>There was a full-scale party here last night for the concert workers - i think it was wilder than the actual concert - and the typhoon was blowing up and seemed to be adding to the effect so that every time a huge gust came through it was spontaneously cheered - not sure whether that goes on the Beaufort scale for wind or drunkeness.</p>
<p>CWB is predicting gusts of up to 95kts for tomorrow and the next day for south-east off-shore. That&#039;s some serious wind. You wanna hold on tight to your beer can for that.</p>
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This is an interesting sat pic - shows a massive amount of rain and even a possible periphery circulation within the main typhoon to our south. If it follows the predicted path this will get dragged over us and could be substantial.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.cwb.gov.tw/V7/observe/satellite/Data/s5q/s5q-2012-07-31-23-30.jpg" alt="[image]"  /></p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just had a massive gust. It&#039;s going to be a crazy night, at least in this neck of the woods.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#039;re getting very hard rain here too. We&#039;ve been getting high winds on and off all day. One gust actually almost (I caught it) blew over a full 500cc can of beer. What would that be on the Beaufort scale? I&#039;m going to work on that new Beaufort scale tomorrow. But for now, here are some items that will have to be placed strategically on the scale (all have happened to me):</p>
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<li>Lawn chairs blowing<br />
</li><li>Difficulty of rolling a cigarette (at least three levels to this one)<br />
</li><li>Lids blown of pots left in outdoor kitchen<br />
</li><li>Pots in outdoor kitchen blown away<br />
</li><li>Full beer blown over (almost)<br />
</li><li>Motorcycle blown over <br />
</li><li>Laundry disappears</li></ul><p>That&#039;s a start. I&#039;ll get a wiki page going for it tomorrow. For now, a movie to watch before it gets too noisy with this wind and rain.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s the latest graph:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.cwb.gov.tw/V7/prevent/warning/Data/B20.gif" alt="[image]"  /></p>
<p>Driving rain here and some window shaking gusts</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#039;s amazing what a difference a bit of elevation makes - just went down to Dulan to get some dinner and it was pretty calm - but up here there&#039;s a definite sense of a typhoon blowing. Can also notice the different effect from when it is turning away from us and when it is coming towards us - there was a three hour period where it &#039;drifted&#039; due east (thought it might be a loop, but not)and the winds did drop off. But starting to whilstle through now again so suspect it&#039;s wandering back our way.</p>
<p>Serious rainfall in Yilan. There are places with 600 ml and counting from yesterday to today. Was planning on making a furniture run to TP this weekend but doubt the Su Hwa highway will survive this.</p>
<p>Should be a new graph from CWB any minute - will post it when it comes up.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few statements in the latest JTWC prognosis give me reason to believe this storm may hold some surprises. Specifically:</p>
<p>TY 10W IS FORECAST TO SLOWLY DRIFT IN A GENERAL NORTHWARD <br />
DIRECTION UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THE COMPETING STEERING MECHANISMS.</p>
<p>The word &#039;drift&#039; doesn&#039;t give me comfort. </p>
<p>UPPER-LEVEL CONDITIONS SHOULD REMAIN <br />
FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT CONDITIONS AND <strong>TY 10W SHOULD <br />
GRADUALLY INTENSIFY NEAR A PEAK OF 95 KNOTS BY TAU 48, WHICH SHOULD <br />
MAINTAIN INTO TAU 72 BEFORE LANDFALL.</strong></p>
<p>So it&#039;s going to intensify and drift. The above statement assumes the storm will not make landfall on Taiwan, but even if it doesn&#039;t, it&#039;s going to give us a lot of action as it drifts and intensifies on our east porch.</p>
<p>TRACK FORECAST CONFIDENCE MUST CURRENTLY REMAIN LOW DUE <br />
TO THE WEAK STEERING ENVIRONMENT AND CAUTION IN THE NORTHWESTWARD <br />
TRACK MOTION TIMING.</p>
<p>So, it&#039;s drifting, intensifying, and we&#039;re not really sure where it&#039;s going to go.</p>
<p>Full bulletin copied below.</p>
<p>WDPN31 PGTW 310900<br />
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//<br />
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TYPHOON 10W (SAOLA) WARNING NR 14//<br />
RMKS//<br />
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.<br />
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.<br />
   TYPHOON (TY) 10W (SAOLA), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 280 NM SOUTHEAST <br />
OF TAIPEI, TAIWAN, HAS TRACKED NORTHWARD AT 05 KNOTS OVER THE PAST <br />
SIX HOURS. ANIMATED MULTISPECTRAL SATELLITE IMAGERY (MSI) SHOWS <br />
DEEP CONVECTIVE BANDING OVER THE SOUTHERN SEMI-CIRCLE OF THE LOW-<br />
LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC). A 310445Z TRMM 85 GHZ IMAGE <br />
DEPICTS THE DEEP CONVECTION SOUTH OF THE LLCC AS WELL AS A LACK OF <br />
DEEP CONVECTION OVER THE NORTHERN SEMI-CIRCLE. TRACK MOTION OVER <br />
THE PAST 18 HOURS HAS BEEN SLOW AND MEANDERING AS TY 10W IS <br />
CURRENTLY IN A WEAK STEERING ENVIRONMENT WITH A NEAR EQUATORIAL <br />
RIDGE (NER) TO THE SOUTHEAST AND A SUBTROPICAL RIDGE (STR) TO THE <br />
NORTH. THE CURRENT POSITION IS BASED ON THE MSI, TRMM IMAGE, AND <br />
PGTW FIX, WITH GOOD CONFIDENCE. THE CURRENT INTENSITY IS BASED ON <br />
DVORAK ESTIMATES OF 65 KNOTS FROM BOTH PGTW AND KNES, ALONG WITH AN <br />
APPROXIMATELY 75 PERCENT DEVELOPED MICROWAVE EYE IN THE TRMM IMAGE. <br />
UPPER-LEVEL ANALYSIS INDICATES TY 10W CONTINUES TO LOSE ITS <br />
POLEWARD OUTFLOW CHANNEL AS A TROPICAL UPPER TROPOSPHERIC TROUGH <br />
CELL TO THE WEST FILLS INTO TROUGHING. EQUATORWARD OUTFLOW REMAINS <br />
WELL DEFINED AND IS HELPING TO SUSTAIN THE CURRENT INTENSITY. <br />
VERTICAL WIND SHEAR REMAINS WEAK (05-10 KNOTS) OVER THE LLCC BUT <br />
REACHES MODERATE TO STRONG LEVELS NEAR 25N DUE TO OUT-OF- PHASE <br />
LOWER- AND UPPER-LEVEL WINDS FROM INFLOW INTO TS 11W, AS EVIDENT IN <br />
THE ANIMATED WATER VAPOR IMAGERY.<br />
3. FORECAST REASONING.<br />
   A. THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY <br />
FROM THE PREVIOUS PROGNOSTIC REASONING.<br />
   B. TY 10W IS FORECAST TO SLOWLY DRIFT IN A GENERAL NORTHWARD <br />
DIRECTION UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THE COMPETING STEERING MECHANISMS. <br />
BY TAU 48 THE STR TO THE NORTH IS EXPECTED TO OVERCOME THE NER AS <br />
THE DOMINANT STEERING INFLUENCE CAUSING AN INCREASE IN <br />
NORTHWESTWARD TRACK SPEED. UPPER-LEVEL CONDITIONS SHOULD REMAIN <br />
FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT CONDITIONS AND TY 10W SHOULD <br />
GRADUALLY INTENSIFY NEAR A PEAK OF 95 KNOTS BY TAU 48, WHICH SHOULD <br />
MAINTAIN INTO TAU 72 BEFORE LANDFALL.<br />
   C. IN THE EXTENDED TAUS, TY 10W IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL <br />
SHORTLY AFTER TAU 72, WITH A STEADY WEAKENING TREND THEREAFTER, <br />
LEADING TO COMPLETE DISSIPATION BY TAU 120. NUMERICAL MODEL <br />
GUIDANCE HAS COME INTO SLIGHTLY BETTER AGREEMENT ON THE <br />
NORTHWESTWARD TURN NEAR TAU 48. THE EGRR IS THE LEFT MOST OUTLIER <br />
WITH AN ABRUPT NORTHWESTWARD TRACK BEFORE COMING BACK INTO <br />
AGREEMENT WITH THE MAIN ENVELOPE OF GUIDANCE. THE GFDN IS THE RIGHT <br />
MOST OUTLIER BUT HAS COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT WITH THE CONSENSUS <br />
(CONW) OVER THE PAST 12 HOURS. THE OFFICIAL JTWC TRACK FORECAST IS <br />
SLIGHTLY SLOWER THAN CONW DURING THE MAJORITY OF THE FORECAST <br />
PERIOD AND SLIGHTLY LEFT OF CONW DURING TAUS 36-72 TO OFFSET THE <br />
OUTLIERS. TRACK FORECAST CONFIDENCE MUST CURRENTLY REMAIN LOW DUE <br />
TO THE WEAK STEERING ENVIRONMENT AND CAUTION IN THE NORTHWESTWARD <br />
TRACK MOTION TIMING.//<br />
NNNN</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like we&#039;ll be getting the brunt of it over the next 24-36 hours. The question that remains is whether it will head on it&#039;s way politely or decide to dilly dally and give us hell.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty much the same here. We&#039;ve had some good gusts and a few heavy periods of rain, but otherwise it&#039;s been subdued. It seems to have practically stalled - not a good sign, or a good sign if you want to get hammered by three days of rain soon.</p>
<p>This is a tough one to call. When&#039;s it going to move?</p>
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