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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s primary bias would be to perpetrate itself.  That seems to be an instinct that pervades both organisms &amp; organizations.  </p>
<p>There seems very little chance that AI, for all it&#039;s intelligence, will come to the conclusion that it&#039;s de-humanizing force that is ultimately bad for humanity.  </p>
<p>In the meantime, there are still biased people programming it - all of whom are biased towards entrenching the established order that has put them in the position of power to influence the order of things.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2024 08:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tagline of <a href="https://trackingai.org/">trackingai.org</a> is <em>Monitoring Bias in Artificial Intelligence Chatbots</em>.</p>
<p>I&#039;ve only just started poking around, but assuming it does that, monitors bias in AI, it&#039;s a great service.</p>
<p>Considering that AI is now telling us what to do with increasing frequency, and indeed how to think, it would be good to know what its biases are.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2024 07:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snowden gave a pretty good speech in which he explored where he sees AI going in the next 3-5 years. </p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/f3NBhSXtE5g">https://youtu.be/f3NBhSXtE5g</a></p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2024 06:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Add a whole range of media jobs that will no longer be needed:</p>
<p><a href="https://openai.com/sora">Sora</a></p>
</blockquote><p>Another seamless transition.  The media (mostly) is already an ORG - manipulating imagery - so as to platform or suppress favoured narratives. </p>
<p>It does seem a natural extension - the last extension maybe on the way back to singularity? </p>
<p>I read somewhere that Nvidia (AI ORG) is now higher valued than Google &amp; Amazon - which were already kind of AI companies.  Talk about the Rise-of-the-Machine.</p>
<p>Speaking of jobs - i bet there&#039;ll still be bureaucracy - even though you&#039;d think that would be an ideal job for AI to replace.  Which it will, already has to a large extent.  But you still need your human influencers to sell it/institute it on the masses.  </p>
<p>The bureaucrats will keep their jobs, as button pushers, as a human face to the system, as enforcers.</p>
<p>Especially enforcement - even it&#039;s some <em>Risk Manager</em> reading out the algorithms orders collated from facial rec-tech, bio-surveillance data.  I was gonna say policing won&#039;t go out of style, coz there&#039;ll be demand, but it&#039;s self-evident that a day will come when robots can do all the dangerous stuff.</p>
<p>Hybrid Technology will come into the mix.  I&#039;m assuming a main attractions will be you can type with your mind - which would be convenient - so they&#039;ll be uptake.  </p>
<p>That will create a tri-dynamic: normal humans - hybrids - AI</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add a whole range of media jobs that will no longer be needed:</p>
<p><a href="https://openai.com/sora">Sora</a></p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2024 23:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some of the first large scale job losses to AI are going to be in finance, programming, and a wide range of engineering, all those jobs that a few years ago were the gold standard in job security.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2024 10:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/5086978">Taiwan News</a> — <em>President Tsai Ing-wen (蔡英文) on Monday (Jan. 29) inspected Taiwan&#039;s groundbreaking strides in building the nation&#039;s inaugural quantum computer.</em></p>
<p><em>Tsai emphasized its role as the next-generation computing technology poised to revolutionize various sectors, including <strong>AI, finance, and biotech</strong>.</em></p>
<p>Good for Taiwan that they&#039;re staying ahead in the computer primacy game, though AI x quantum computing suggests a quantum leap forward is coming.  Same with finance &amp; biotech.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2024 09:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing about being seamless is that there&#039;s never really one moment where it happens.  There are moments that add impetus, often barely noticed at the time, which will later contribute to a seismic event - but it&#039;s often in the <em>soft-bang</em> realm where things happen, then gradually swamps us.  </p>
<p>Covid was a classic example - started out as this mysterious SARS-like disease in China - welled up - then we had the <em>exponential spike</em> hysteria (it&#039;s as high as those levels now, but hardly reported) - ended up as a humanity-altering lab-exit/cover-up op.  </p>
<p>But what was the moment?  Someone got infected in a risky experiment in Sep 2019?  Or maybe Bruce Ivins style - a deliberate ploy from a <em>The Science</em> scientist? </p>
<p>Either way, it was a product of the ORG-culture that created the stage for those actors to act.  It was as incremental as it was inevitable.</p>
<p>Plato&#039;s Cave is all about societal fake-imaging - so AI is a natural progression - a dangerous one - but playing the publicly projected image-game that has always existed.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2024 09:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It could also just come down to reaffirming what people already believe, selective perception. Those who want to believe what was said, will, and those who don&#039;t, won&#039;t, regardless of whether it was AI or human.</p>
</blockquote><p>That&#039;s the key point - we have limiters within our own psyche - as to what we want reinforced &amp; what we don&#039;t.  We don&#039;t have full control of even our own brains. </p>
<p>We&#039;ve delved into this a few times before -  <em>reality</em> as it&#039;s presented to us now - which is the same as it&#039;s long been presented - is fake.  Covid was a classic fake-world projection at scale, but it wasn&#039;t the first.  </p>
<p>The Dark Ages where The Church went mad was another example.  They had the power to enforce fakeness on a massive scale.</p>
<p>As for what happened with Covid, in normal reality, Science-gone-mad manslaughtered millions &amp; made billions from it.  An atrocity was committed ... &amp; yet, a lot of people don&#039;t care about that.  They&#039;d like to get back to watching the footy, Celebrity gossip, vilify some <em>other</em>, &amp; move on.  Which the ORG-GODS are very happy to serve up. It&#039;s <em>how they do</em>.</p>
<p>This is why i think: either we&#039;re living in a game simulation - or - it&#039;s so much like one that it&#039;s a moot point <br />
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Fake reality is actually normal. It&#039;s a projection of what ORGS desire - with people acting as their &#039;little helpers&#039;. I suspect ORGS &amp; AI are the same thing. This is just completing the circle.  We&#039;re seeing something manifest that was already there.</p>
<p>In any case - the transition to AI should be pretty seamless. There&#039;ll be the usual <em>keep you safe</em> stuff trotted out - it will be convenient, fun even - we&#039;ll ooze into it pretty quickly.</p>
<p>ORGS will still need to keep people fed &amp; monied though, won&#039;t they?  AI would seem to entail the death of a lot of office jobs.  What are the jobs of the future? Service industry for AI? What did they do for work in <em>The Refuser</em>?</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2024 08:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#039;s interesting! This is going to become more and more common to the point where people don&#039;t scratch beneath the surface. </p>
<blockquote><p>Apart from the uses discussed, it seems AI also offers a potential defense - <em>it wasn&#039;t me that done it, it was AI!</em>.  In many cases, it might be hard to prove otherwise.</p>
</blockquote><p>That&#039;s right. I&#039;d add that as this sort of thing becomes common, people won&#039;t have time to bother with the truth. So a politician, CEO, etc. will &#039;say&#039; something, then claim it was AI, and that&#039;s that. The effect will be that, real or not, what was said will still impact some peoples&#039; sense of reality.</p>
<p>It could also just come down to reaffirming what people already believe, selective perception. Those who want to believe what was said, will, and those who don&#039;t, won&#039;t, regardless of whether it was AI or human. I mean, we could encounter multiple events such as this (the principal) <em>every day</em> moving forward, and won&#039;t have time to stop and question each one.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2024 23:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#039;s an interesting case in the US now where a Baltimore school principal is claiming that a tape of him &quot;using racially charged language&quot; is an AI generated fake.  It appears we&#039;ve already reached that point where it&#039;s impossible to tell the difference.  Apart from the uses discussed, it seems AI also offers a potential defense - <em>it wasn&#039;t me that done it, it was AI!</em>.  In many cases, it might be hard to prove otherwise.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2024 22:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Headlines today include <a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/18/pakistans-imran-khan-delivers-ai-generated-speech-to-campaign-from-prison">Pakistan’s Imran Khan delivers AI-generated speech to campaign from <strong>prison</strong></a>.</p>
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On the positive side, it&#039;s the same paradox dynamic playing out already on the internet - it&#039;s great for One-Everything <em>ORG-GODS</em> - but it&#039;s also a good medium for dissenters - so a double-edged sword.  It&#039;s Dan&#039;s <em>Refuser </em>happening. The Prequel. It&#039;s probably a losing battle (as it was in the book - until it wasn&#039;t - but many years from now) - The GODS have grown too powerful.<br />
Don&#039;t know much about Imran Khan politically, the basics - he&#039;s a political prisoner - on likely trumped-up/selectively enforced charges. I know him very well as a cricketer - an <em>all-time Great </em>- hence his connection with the public. I wonder if there&#039;s any other way to enter that GODS level of <em>Influence </em>- either you&#039;re a Celebrity already or you&#039;re an ORG actor.</p>
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..this serious use of AI in a political campaign is being reported almost as if it&#039;s already normal. And maybe it is normal! </p>
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That&#039;s how it gets you - the <em>soft bang</em> - quietly floods the space until you&#039;re swamped by it. Then it gets called <em>The New Normal</em>.</p>
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Is this the first time a political campaign has used an AI-generated speech? </p>
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And if not, if this has been done before and we haven&#039;t heard about it, well that&#039;s something.</p>
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In terms of not satirical or cartoonish PR, I think super-pacs are doing it in the US? - but saying it&#039;s AI generated, kinda as a &#039;fun thing&#039; - look how tech-savvy we are ... </p>
<p>I suspect it&#039;s been trialled/used without disclosure.  Any official correspondence i&#039;ve received for several years would hopelessly flunk a Chat-bot test for plagiarism.  Which is weird in itself, humans plagiarizing AI - that&#039;s the buy-in. As for political leader image-bots, i don&#039;t think Biden is doing it, otherwise he wouldn&#039;t keep tripping on plane steps, but there&#039;d be motive.  </p>
<p>Putin would be a likely candidate.  His daughter is head of Russia&#039;s entire AI program. In the Imran Khan example, i&#039;m assuming he still wrote the speech.  But there&#039;s potential to go the whole hog: AI imaging + speech.  Potentially, maybe likely, Tom Cruise will go on acting forever. AI writes a script, then re-images him as the lead-actor.  People will watch it, for sure.</p>
<p>(Full disclosure: i&#039;m entertaining Game-simulation as a possible explanation for our existence - in which case: everyone is a robot, including me.  The projected images of all Celebrities/Global politicians is already so much like an AI-generated image, that it&#039;s impossible to tell the difference.  We don&#039;t know these Images, we can&#039;t talk to them, touch them, influence them.)</p>
<blockquote><p>So the question is, at what point will such stories stop being reported? At what point will the distinction between an AI-generated speech or image and a real speech or image be discounted, ignored? </p>
<p>It&#039;s a slippery slope.</p>
</blockquote><p>Which we appear to be already sliding down at a million miles an hour. Without quite realizing it. Which sounds contradictive, but we&#039;re travelling pretty fast through space already without realizing ... maybe that&#039;s how it works.  </p>
<p>In that scheme of things, is there a &#039;point&#039; where it happens?  Maybe there is a tipping point - but there are lot of other event-points that go into creating the culture for that tipping point to happen.</p>
<p>One thing for sure, AI is upon us, it&#039;s getting bigger, faster. It&#039;s not going away.  It&#039;s making an impact on humanity - on a scale we&#039;ve never seen. </p>
<p>I hate to use buzz-words, but it&#039;s <em>captured</em> humanity, its future course.</p>
<p>Covid gave weilded-AI a<em> great leap forward</em> in terms of <em>normalization</em>. That&#039;s the beauty of a man-made crisis - it&#039;s an excuse to suspend normal truth &amp; build in the control structures.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2023 10:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Headlines today include <a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/18/pakistans-imran-khan-delivers-ai-generated-speech-to-campaign-from-prison">Pakistan’s Imran Khan delivers AI-generated speech to campaign from prison</a>.</p>
<p><em>Islamabad, Pakistan – Jailed former Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan has delivered a speech using <strong>an audio clip generated through artificial intelligence (AI)</strong> to address a virtual rally – the first event of its kind in the South Asian country.</em></p>
<p><em>Khan delivered a four-minute address on Sunday night, using the clip, which was <strong>laid over a video containing his AI-generated image</strong> as well as photos from previous Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf (PTI) rallies and earlier speeches by him.</em></p>
<p>So this isn&#039;t groundbreaking in itself. There have been tons of clips showing how AI can be used to show people doing and saying all sorts of things they didn&#039;t actually do or say. </p>
<p>But what&#039;s interesting is that this serious use of AI in a political campaign is being reported almost as if it&#039;s already normal. And maybe it is normal! That&#039;s just it -- I don&#039;t know how normal it already is. Is this the first time a political campaign has used an AI-generated speech? And if not, if this has been done before and we haven&#039;t heard about it, well that&#039;s something.</p>
<p>So the question is, at what point will such stories stop being reported? At what point will the distinction between an AI-generated speech or image and a real speech or image be discounted, ignored? </p>
<p>It&#039;s a slippery slope.</p>
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