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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These video links are from the wiki. Maybe they&#039;re timely. </p>
<p>    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5pgP_Vbgzg">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5pgP_Vbgzg</a><br />
    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz3FtnxkYzA">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz3FtnxkYzA</a><br />
    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD-IdP-yZLU">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD-IdP-yZLU</a><br />
    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brR7bwNXcK4">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brR7bwNXcK4</a> (Protest of Dec22, 2012, EIA)</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2023 12:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Shanyuan post-Miramar (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The fuckers are now trying to normalize the Miramar site - the Taidong govt held a concert there over Tomb-sweeping long-weekend - with massive fire-works.  </p>
</blockquote><p>Normalize is right. Get people there, celebrate with the building. Form happy memories with the building. Probably a lot of children there. They&#039;re not stupid. And it works. They&#039;ll do this a few more times, a couple more years, then that building is now part of people&#039;s happy memories. How can they tear it down? </p>
<blockquote><p>Here&#039;s my nightmare scenario - which looks likely to come true:  Miramar is converted into a conference centre for ... <em>THE Experts</em>.  </p>
</blockquote><p>Exactly. That&#039;s exactly what will happen. It will be a conference center, a nature &#039;museum&#039;.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2023 08:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty solid evidence!</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2023 08:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That&#039;s back in the day! I&#039;d guess 1980s or early 90s There are even yachts on the beach.  </p>
</blockquote><p>I think it must have been 93 or thereabouts. Maybe 92 sometime. <br />
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<blockquote><p>Looks like it might even predate the camp ground.  Does it?  Can you remember taking it?</p>
</blockquote><p>Yeah, we took a road trip, obviously. There was a restaurant on the roadside above the beach and we parked there, a very small shack of a restaurant. </p>
<blockquote><p>Unfortunately, the efforts to have Miramar Resort demolished have fallen short.  Protesters were able to stop it from opening, but couldn&#039;t get it torn down, or anyone charged with corruption.</p>
</blockquote><p>Of course. There&#039;s value in that building. They&#039;re waiting for the generation that fought it to die off. <br />
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<blockquote><p>It&#039;s a  metaphor for a lot of things - like Covid for instance. Against David V Goliath odds, we were able to show that it was likely a lab-exit, but fell short of getting anyone held responsible, or dismantling the system that caused it.</p>
</blockquote><p>Yep! Just wait one generation, 20 years or so, and nobody gives a shit. Now it seems it only takes 8-10 years for collective memory to lapse.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2023 08:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fuckers are now trying to normalize the Miramar site - the Taidong govt held a concert there over Tomb-sweeping long-weekend - with massive fire-works.  All paid for by the taxpayer of course.</p>
<p>Here&#039;s my nightmare scenario - which looks likely to come true:  Miramar is converted into a conference centre for ... <em>THE Experts</em>.  </p>
<p><img src="https://scontent.fsyd10-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/337039297_185137317707320_4686830768315701973_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&amp;ccb=1-7&amp;_nc_sid=ae9488&amp;_nc_ohc=B7pnCHRltkEAX-lBD4F&amp;_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd10-1.fna&amp;oh=03_AdRYhfDNmH1iuPeBZXHtPkWll2aEtrmhKDmZpTn8mJVzbA&amp;oe=6453FF8F" alt="[image]"  /></p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2023 22:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
<category>General</category><dc:creator>dulan drift</dc:creator>
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<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2023 04:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice photos!  </p>
<p>That&#039;s back in the day! I&#039;d guess 1980s or early 90s There are even yachts on the beach.  </p>
<p>Looks like it might even predate the camp ground.  Does it?  Can you remember taking it?</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#039;s more evidence that Shanyuan has always been a popular public beach.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the efforts to have Miramar Resort demolished have fallen short.  Protesters were able to stop it from opening, but couldn&#039;t get it torn down, or anyone charged with corruption.</p>
<p>It&#039;s a  metaphor for a lot of things - like Covid for instance. Against David V Goliath odds, we were able to show that it was likely a lab-exit, but fell short of getting anyone held responsible, or dismantling the system that caused it.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2023 22:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are a couple more. Apologies for the crappy quality.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2023 03:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m trying to digitize piles of old negatives and came across this. I&#039;m 98% certain it&#039;s a picture of Shanyuan Beach from the early 90&#039;s.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2023 02:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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