When/if a global dissent/revolution happens, it will be chaotic - a mish-mash of different disaffected groups - with their disaffection in common.

Agreed. I think this protest in France is so successful, if you can call it that, because the disaffected are perhaps less divided than in places like the US, where the GODS have been very successful at pitting the poor and middle class against one another.

EDIT: ... successful at pitting factions of poor and factions of the middle class, OK, the middle class is dying, so pitting factions of the poor against each other. The worst nightmare of the GODS in the US is the poor realizing they're on the same side.

News: (L)ast week, the fury stepped up a notch after the government resorted to Article 49.3 of the constitution to force the bill through parliament without a vote.

A bill to raise the retirement ages & increase years of social-security contributions in order to be paid the full-pension - not by much - but it's set something off with the French public.

There have been increasingly violent scenes emerging since then, with millions of protesters taking to the streets, lighting fires, blocking roads, throwing projectiles, barricading universities and causing power outages.

Major fuel shortages are also impacting service stations across the country due to protesters blocking major locations, with the biggest nationwide protest on record for France recorded this week, with rallies held in more than 200 separate areas.

There has also been widespread industrial action across scores of sectors, with tonnes of garbage piling up in the streets of Paris with the city’s garbage collectors striking since March 6 along with workers in the oil, gas, electricity, transport and education industries.

France has had some pretty good protests in its history, so biggest on record is note-worthy. When trust in government/the experts is broken, beyond repair, that's dangerous territory.

Was always the big risk with the Covid Lie - now those chickens might be coming home to roost ...

When/if a global dissent/revolution happens, it will be chaotic - a mish-mash of different disaffected groups - with their disaffection in common.

That doesn't excuse the CCP, of course. But it does suggest that they've learned from a western imperialism model.

The Diplomat: David Panuelo, the president of the Federated States of Micronesia (FSM) has written a letter to FSM leaders providing extraordinary details on Beijing’s political warfare and grey zone activity in the country – and outlining a potential agreement to switch FSM’s diplomatic recognition from China to Taiwan.

Letter extracts:

We understand that [China’s choice for ambassador to FSM] Mr. Wu would, upon his arrival, be given the mission of preparing the FSM to shift away from its partnerships with traditional allies such as the U.S., Japan, and Australia. We know that Mr. Wu would expand PRC security activity, awareness, and interest in the FSM… I declined the Ambassador-designate his position…they’re simply awaiting the new President to take power so Mr. Wu can become the Ambassador of China to the FSM

“You can imagine my surprise when I was followed this past July in Fiji during the Pacific Islands Forum by two Chinese men; my further surprise when it was determined that they worked for the Chinese Embassy in Suva; my even further surprise when it was discovered that one of them was a PLA intelligence officer; and my continued surprise when I leaned that I had multiple Cabinet and staff who had met him before, and in the FSM. To be clear: I have had direct threats against my personal safety from PRC officials acting in an official capacity,

[China’s newly appointed Envoy for the Pacific Islands Ambassador Qian Bo] would have been present during the 2nd China-PICS Political Dialogue. That itself is noteworthy insofar as that was the public meeting where the FSM Government found itself represented not by myself or a Cabinet member or even a member of our Foreign Service – indeed not by anyone in our Government at all but, rather, a private citizen names Mr. Duhlen Soumwei. I said to the PRC that we would not have formal representation at the meeting, and the PRC went to the extent of taking one of our citizens and then publicly having that citizen formally represent us. To say it again: China has established a precedent of taking our private citizens in multilateral meetings to formally represent our country without our Government’s awareness or approval thereof.

(CCP sent ocean vessels into the FSM’s Exclusive Economic Zone) whose purpose includes mapping our maritime territory for potential resources. When we sent our own patrol boats to our own Exclusive Economic Zone to check on PRC research vessel activity, the PRC sent a warning for us to stay away.

China’s suggestions in February 2020 (was) that the novel coronavirus wasn’t dangerous and so the FSM should open its borders to Chinese citizens and workers, including the frequent calls to my personal phone number from Ambassador Huang at the time.

On October 14th, 2021, I relayed the final instruction that the FSM will not accept the Chinese vaccines. ‘Let’s be clear,’ I said, ‘Foreign Affairs will prepare a letter to say “no” to the Chinese vaccines. Our answer should be very clear that, while we appreciate the offer, the answer is no because we have more than enough vaccines.

In November, 2021 – after the Secretary of Health and the Secretary of Foreign Affairs and myself had changed cellphone numbers due to incessant calls from Ambassador Huang – the FSM signed an agreement that we accept the Chinese vaccines. We included various stipulations, such as that they were to be used only for citizens of China in the FSM; but that wasn’t what China (cared about). What China wanted was for the FSM to be on the list of countries that they could publicly promote as having accepted their vaccines. China got exactly what it wanted.

One of the reasons that China’s Political Warfare is successful in so many arenas is that we are bribed to be complicit, and bribed to be silent. That’s a heavy word, but it is an accurate description regardless. What else do you call it when an elected official is giving an envelope filled with money after meal at the PRC Embassy or after an inauguration? … What else do you call it when an elected official receives a check for a public project that our National Treasury has no record of and no means of accounting for?

This past October 2022, when Vice President Palik visited Kosrae, he was received by our friends at Da Yang Seafoods. Our friends at Da Yang have a private plane, and they arrived in Kosrae (along with several senior FSM Government officials) on a private plane. Our friends told the Vice President that they can provide him private and personal transportation to anywhere he likes at any time, even Hawaii, for example; he only need ask.

Senior officials and elected officials across the whole of our National and State Governments receive offers of gifts as a means to curry favor. The practical impact of this is that some senior officials and elected officials take actions that are contrary to the FSM‘s national interest, but are consistent with the PRC‘s national interests.

At worst in the short-term, it means we sell our country and our sovereignty for temporary personal benefit. At worst in the long-term, it means we are, ourselves, active participants in allowing a possible war to occur in our region, and very likely our own islands and our neighbors on Guam and Hawaii, where we ourselves will be indirectly responsible for the Micronesian lives lost

Money matters, and If I am to make the argument that our country is the target of Political Warfare so as to prepare our country and region to align ourselves with China prior to their invasion of Taiwan, I must also make the argument that our country can obtain a better deal without China…. I am clearly aware that I must make the argument not only in terms of preventing war and saving lives, but in terms of how we can fill the gap that would occur if we were to turn off the flow of money from China.

In February 2023, I met with the Honorable Joseph Wu, Foreign Minister of Taiwan, to solicit from Taiwan what their potential assistance to the FSM would look like if we switch diplomatic relations to supporting them instead of China, and what benefits we can get if we don’t switch relations formally but do explore initializing a Taipei Economic & Cultural Representative Office (TECRO)…

I was transparent with Foreign Minister Wu; we project we need an injection of approximately $50,000,000 to meet our future needs. We can and will receive this, over a three-year period, if and when we establish diplomatic relations with Taiwan. Meanwhile, we will also receive an annual $15,000,000 assistance package which we could divide however we wish (meaning, by extension, we could also simply send this assistance directly to our FSM States like we do with assistance from the Compact of Free Association).

Additionally, Taiwan assures me that they will simply ‘pick-up’ any and all projects that China is currently undertaking…using Micronesian labor and Micronesian businesses, unlike China, inclusive of job training for laborers.

On top of all the financial assistance, Panuelo sees the option of recognizing Taiwan as providing “greatly added layers of security and protection that comes with our country distancing itself from the PRC, which has demonstrated a keen capacity to undermine our sovereignty, reject our values, and use our elected and senior officials for their purposes.

They were contracted by ASIO (Aus's CIA) to oversee the building of their new HQ. During the building process, in 2013, every possible bit of info you could wish for re the layout/communications/everything was acquired by the CCP.

Typical unaccountable spy org, no details of the hack were officially released - it wouldn't even be known except for whistleblowers. The leak came from one of the companies working on the HQ - there were only three main ones that might have access to the blueprints. Of those three, AECOM seems particularly suss:

Originally an oil company with ties to Saudi Arabia (Ashfield Oil)

Involved in Belt & Road projects galore

Has a HQ in Shanghai

Ripped-off Hurricane Katrina aid

They're all disturbing but the last one reminds me of a point Dan made about never supporting the death penalty coz of the double-standards between rich & poor committing virtually the same crimes but getting different punishments.

The AECOM page is here.

At some point in this discussion of the GODS, before we moved towards an organizational model, we speculated on the number of individual GODS, and I think we settled on a number somewhere between 1,000 and 3,000. Interestingly, this podcast mentions that there are 2,700 billionaires in the world.

I think the organizational definition of the GODS is more meaningful, but this coincidence struck a chord.

The podcast is worth a listen: We need to talk about Davos

For sure there are influential reps of Organizations. The football analogy is a good one - your Hall-of-Famers - which rank-up to your Immortals ...

But at the end of the day that never ends, they're only reps/embodiments of a group-think culture with built-in-Truman-Show limits of what's acceptable reality ... or not.

As a The Refuser book-club comment, i'd observe that Orgs are pro-types of The Algorithm ...?

Orgs = Culture

A larger force that exists/thinks as an over-riding collective-influence. Also crosses the magical death/after-life barrier with ease ...

There's a danger with thinking, it's The System - whaddya gonna do ...? Apart from decentralization, dismantling key human 1st-3rd-tierers on public-forums is a way to erode these false-premises within the realm of Culture. That's something Drastic's Billy-BO-sticks-on is strong on.

I think the organizational definition of the GODS is more meaningful, but this coincidence struck a chord.

The podcast is worth a listen: We need to talk about Davos

I think you've effectively defined what the GODS really are, which are organizations. Those individuals at the top of the pecking order do get their 15 minutes of fame in the GODS club, but ultimately the structure is organizational, not one of individuals.

As associated individuals die off, their heirs fill their ranks, along with any genetic newcomers that manage to battle their way into the club. Hence the persistence of class culture even in places that were meant to do away with it like the US.

Yeah, we might be getting close to a definition. Which raises an interesting point:

Establishment organizations take on a life of their own.

This is related to an idea i've had for a long time - We didn't invent Thought - Thought invented us. We don't have ownership over Thought. It is something that can exist outside of us - it will inhabit whatever vehicle it finds most suitable for enabling its extension. AI is a great vehicle - better than people. That's where it's heading - but Organizations provide the prototype for this kind of collective, self-sustaining Thought organism.

Although people come & go, the organization remains - an enduring mother-ship. Just as football clubs go on about developing a culture, so do Organizations. The culture, in fact, embodies the power-base of the organization.

The culture of an organization is able to outlive the death of the individuals that make it up - it carries on in perpetuity. Its instinct is to reinforce itself, to extend - same as it is with us, but its advantage is the life-after-death trick. Now, culture can be fine - if you think of the bu-luo system within the Taiwanese indigenous tribes, it offers a set of community-values for personal reference whilst also being something that you can participate in, influence. A two-way street. But it can also become unbalanced. Then it becomes a one-way street - it controls you, but you don't get to influence it back. This is the kind that we're discussing here.

In terms of Orgs as GODS, the organization provides a mind-control system for those people at the top benefiting from the system, whilst also providing cover for those people. An argument you often here from THE Church to explain bad behaviour is well, that's just the way things were done back then - but the fact is the reason they were done that way was because, as the dominant mind-control org, all other ways of doing things were banned. No doubt we will hear the exact same argument from THE Science if they ever get held to account.

The other thing about Orgs is the collective buy-in. This is something we discussed at the beginning of this thread with the tier-arrangement. Apart from those in the top-tier, many others have a vested financial/power interest in maintaining the supremacy of the org. Whether something is true or not, or whether a course of action is right or not, becomes almost irrelevant. The only thing that matters is whether it's good for the entrenchment of the org, because, ultimately, it's the Organization that provides you with the privileged-life-style you enjoy as well as the all-important protection from outsiders who may seek to question your power. Together, this amounts to a powerful group-think, which links back to the idea of The Org (GODS) having a mind of its own - made up of/transcending the individual minds of its members.

None of which is to let the individuals who currently run these orgs of the hook. Although the org supplies a catch-all moral cover for heinous acts, it doesn't make those acts right. Five minutes of honest reflection by those actors would make this obvious. They know what they're doing despite their projected suspension of disbelief. It's for this reason i've always made it a point to name names when looking at the Covid Atrocity.

This thread is an extension/discussion of Dan's The Refuser, so in that light we can see an Organization (let's say THE Science, as an example) as a version of The Algorithm. What we're seeing today, imo, is orgs merging with algorithms to grow even larger, more powerful (a process which i assume was a central tenet of The Refuser). A feeding of the monster that craves control over individual data to expand its influence - by gobbling up the influence of the individuals it controls.

Police spokesperson: The NSW Police Force has received a Form 1 for a protest planned for Thursday 2 February in Sydney CBD, however, despite attempted negotiations with organisers, safety concerns associated with their proposed assembly cannot be adequately mitigated without amendments to the proposal.

As such, the Commissioner will apply to the NSW Supreme Court to prohibit the assembly.

(Police) recognise and support the rights of individuals and groups to exercise their rights of free speech and peaceful assembly, however, the first priority is always the safety of the wider community.

The old 'to keep us safe' BS that gets trotted out every single time authorities want to clamp down on basic human rights.

Hard to imagine a more flagrant example of that than the above. As pointed out in the earlier post, Pell continuously used his position of immense power to enable child-sexual abuse then cover it up. Then block victims from seeking compensation through his concoction of the Ellis Defense (arguing THE Church is not a legal entity, therefore not liable). Pell was the integral force in Australia responsible for masterminding all three types of abuses (enabling, covering-up, blocking compensation) against children.

This abuse included the Catholic Ballarat diocese (in which Pell was a leading figure) leaning on police to drop their investigation against Father Day (which they did) and arranging for prolific pedophile, Father Ridsdale, to be shuffled from parish to parish to continue his sexual-abuse spree.

The Royal Commission found, unequivocally, that Pell was aware of rampant abuse & sought to cover it up.

So when the safety of children being sexually abused was on the line, the police, directed by the Ballarat diocese, enabled the abusers. But now, suddenly, when people want to protest this flagrant abuse of power, they're banned from doing so due to the safety of the wider community?

How the fuck does protesting a leading child-sexual abuser/enabler constitute a threat to the safety of the wider community?

I think we know the answer. Anything that may lead to a questioning of the ruling order is a threat to the safety of the elite's power-base.

To date, not one person has been convicted in Australia for the crime of concealment of child sexual abuse - even though there is a specific law defining it as a crime.

We also know why that is. Despite truckloads upon truckloads of evidence that Pell did conceal abuse - if you're a power-elite, the rules don't apply. It's that simple.

It's no coincidence that the media's current target for vilification (in Aus at least) is the growing number of individuals choosing to withdraw from the system & rejecting this gas-lighting by the higher-ups & their farcical laws. At least the media's sensitivity to this movement shows that they recognize it as their major weakness.

As associated individuals die off, their heirs fill their ranks, along with any genetic newcomers that manage to battle their way into the club. Hence the persistence of class culture even in places that were meant to do away with it like the US.

Apart from all the usual state security orgs, there are: a bunch of private ones (such as UK firm Hakluyt, involved in the Bo Xilai happenings) - compiled of top ex-govt security people

Global Health Security orgs -including B&M Gates Wellcome Trust/Oxford which present an image as global health security research operations.

That Hakluyt firm is sure creepy. Can you imagine how they view the world, people like us, normal people? I wonder what nicknames they have for us. Those not in the loop, not in the club.

The three groups are, not surprisingly, interconnected operationally - Wellcome for example has heads of private security orgs (Hakluyt) as well as an ex-MI5 head on its board.

And this is actually so well acknowledged by the rest of the world that there's a term for it -- the revolving door. And yet, nothing changes.

But i can't see such an overhaul ever happening. These groups (GODS) have simply become too powerful to let that happen. 100% certain they will never do it themselves & they have the power to crush whoever might try to hold these influence empire people accountable.

I agree. It will never change. There is no political solution, just as there is no political solution to racism or greed. Political solutions only work during times of abundance, and even then they usually don't work or they're just a band-aid. I think real change will take some form of evolution, some fundamental shift in human development. But how will that happen? What will drive it? Will it be slow or sudden? And if it's slow, do we have time? Things aren't looking good right now for the survival of the human race. Regardless, you and I won't be around to see any such change.

That only leaves a kind of mass-DIY de-centralization movement. Where more & more people choose to opt out - turn their backs on the system.

This is the system's weak-point - it relies on the compliance of the masses. It's a kind of paradox - even as it de-influences the individual, it still needs all these individuals in order to maintain its own influence/established order. If that can be eroded over time, then that represents our best shot of breaking free of this tyranny.

Agreed, and there is a ray of hope there. Technology is providing the means for normal people to achieve decentralization in some ways, specifically money but also communication and information sharing. But when these organizations are threatened, they have a tried and tested tool.

War.

And when the masses are devastated physically, financially, and emotionally, they're willing to hand total control back to the GODS who, of course, are there to help.

Researching/writing The Covid Atrocity, i delved into several of the main characters involved in:
engineering the virus
releasing it upon the public (on purpose or accidentally)
orchestrating the closed-ranks cover-up

They were all people with names, hiding in the plain-sight of Expert World.

It also became apparent that security people played a major part in the above three events. A lot of cross-over into security world - that way of thinking. The thing about that thinking, you get so far out there, there's no coming back. The crimes you've committed are too heinous. But if you're good enough, you never have to worry about being caught. It's all an image world game. Doesn't matter what you've done, the truth doesn't matter. Only thing that matters is you continue to project your image positively ... If you do that, you win, you feel happy, knowing you're a big-winner in the great game of life. So big you control it.

Apart from all the usual state security orgs, there are:
a bunch of private ones (such as UK firm Hakluyt, involved in the Bo Xilai happenings) - compiled of top ex-govt security people
Global Health Security orgs -including B&M Gates Wellcome Trust/Oxford which present an image as global health security research operations.

The common denominator is that they all claim an inalienable right to operate in secret &/or lie about their operations in the name of some secret goal that the public are not privy to - despite funding most of their work. The three groups are, not surprisingly, interconnected operationally - Wellcome for example has heads of private security orgs (Hakluyt) as well as an ex-MI5 head on its board.

They also all operate as deep-state power hubs beyond the reach of democracy or accountability & have tightly controlled lines of succession. Those in the top jobs will typically be in power their entire working lives.

Bottom-line: if you operate as a security org higher-up, you do whatever the fuck you want with no oversight, no personal repercussions - no bad ones anyway - plenty of good ones.

We've discussed before about the public occasionally being thrown a sacrificial lamb like Bruce Ivins (Anthrax - 7 yrs after the event following a long, expensive cover-up operation by Robert Mueller/FBI) or Oswald - i don't think there's ever been an example of a security org person ever being charged with anything in terms of covering-up. Far more likely to be charged with uncovering, like poor old Snowden - but that was only coz he was a whistle-blower. That's key, security players see it as their job to cover-up information/spread disinformation. That's why it's called secret security

That kind of set-up is a guaranteed way to breed an entrenched culture of corruption. Especially when you have the power to ensure that it stays that way.

Which leaves us with immensely powerful organizations actively shaping world reality - derailing it in fact - hijacking it & replacing it with a fake reality - a flat-earth reality - with no-one left to stop them.

The only way out of this mess is a drastic reformation of security orgs. How much of the work they do really needs to be secret? I would argue almost none of it. It's not valid to argue, as such people do, in the cases of the Kennedy assassination or Covid, that oh, we can't tell the real truth coz that would be too de-stabilizing for world-order (which we control)!

The philosophers will tell you a self-appointed secret license to lie does not hold up logically as a guiding principle. Whatever you do after that, doesn't matter, if your premise is wrong, it's fruit of the poison tree.

But i can't see such an overhaul ever happening. These groups (GODS) have simply become too powerful to let that happen. 100% certain they will never do it themselves & they have the power to crush whoever might try to hold these influence empire people accountable.

That only leaves a kind of mass-DIY de-centralization movement. Where more & more people choose to opt out - turn their backs on the system.

This is the system's weak-point - it relies on the compliance of the masses. It's a kind of paradox - even as it de-influences the individual, it still needs all these individuals in order to maintain its own influence/established order. If that can be eroded over time, then that represents our best shot of breaking free of this tyranny.

However, his crowning achievement was to single-handedly concoct the so-called Ellis Defence, which argued (somehow successfully- see connections to his elite peers) that THE Church was not a legal entity, therefore not liable for any of the sexual abuses committed within the institution.

The Ellis Defence seems like the flipside of the US law that allows corporations to be treated as people.

The great failing of our legal system, to this day, is that covering-up certain crimes by elites is not considered a crime. Maybe one day some scientists will be held accountable for Covid - actually i doubt they will but it's an outside chance - but for sure none of those who covered it up will ever be charged with anything. They are guilty of mass-manslaughter, plain & simple, but they can rest assured that they will never have to face justice. And knowing that, they can feel absolutely free to do the same thing next time.

This is one of the three reasons I'm against the death penalty. It will never be handed out fairly. If Bob Nobody walks into a store, shoots the clerk and steals $10, he may well be executed, particularly if he's black. If Trump or Biden does the exact same thing, they won't, obviously. End of argument.

But more to your point, you're right, those at the top of the pecking order in elite institutions, be they academic, scientific, political, corporate, etc., are untouchable. They literally make the rules. Democracy and representational government have become a bad joke.

I doubt Archbishop George Pell was a GODS, but he was connected to THE GODS as a tier 2 or 3er. As the highest representative of the Catholic Church in Australia, he rose through Catholic ranks to Head of Vatican Finances - think about that ...

He became even more famous though for his integral involvement in the coal-face of child sexual abuse.

Convicted of sexually abusing two alter boys by a jury of his peers (haha), he quickly had that decision overturned on appeal by his real-peers, a panel of judges.

But even if you put that aside, there's no doubting whatsoever his major-role in covering-up institutionalized child-sexual-abuse in THE Church. This guy made it his mission-in-life to use his immense power to block victims from seeking redress whilst covering-up the evidence.

It's well documented (Royal Commission) that he knew of abuse occurring and instigated the shuffling of offenders around from parish to parish as complaints surfaced in order to keep it within THE Church.

Of course, not much comes out of the blue - he started his Catholic-priestly-training-life as housemates/friends with Australia's most notorious pedophile, Gerald Ridsdale (convicted of 71 separate offences). This cozy relationship blossomed at the notorious Ballarat diocese, breeding ground of dozens of clergy pedos. I don't know what the world-record is, but it's Olympic standard, i'm sure.

Pell & Ridsdale remained mates throughout Ridsdale's offending. While Ridsdale was indulging his wolf-in-charge-of-lambs sexual fantasies - with no limits (there were whole classes he was convicted of abusing individually as he was shuffled through several schools) - Pell's star/power addiction, was dramatically ascending. Priest/housemates with Ridsdale - Ballarat Bishop - Archbishop - Cardinal*...

(*like a Minister in globogov.con terms for THE Vatican) - self-confessed global mind-control addicts)

As complaints arose (remembering that with child-sexual-abuse, actual complaints are the-tip of the iceberg), Pell used his police contacts to close down investigations, obfuscate.

Investigators likened THE Church's (with Pell in charge's) response to passivist protesters who stage a sit-down - not violently resisting as such - but any info you want you'll have to drag away as dead-weights.

As a testament to their life-long friendship, Pell subsequently accompanied Ridsdale to court & provided good-character references for him during his trial. Exactly as the THE Church's lawyers suggested - according to Pell.

However, his crowning achievement was to single-handedly concoct the so-called Ellis Defence, which argued (somehow successfully- see connections to his real peers) that THE Church was not a legal entity, therefore not liable for any of the high-thousands of sexual abuses committed undercover of THE Church in Australia.

Which was:

• systemically entrenched over decades
  
• an open-secret - known to be wrong

The worst excesses occurred under Pell's watch. Still, THE High Court judges agreed, THE Church, which actively covered-up abuse over decades, thereby enabling offenders free-license, was deemed not accountable.

Thanks to John Ellis, fucking hero, who kept persisting with his case, this ruling was recently overturned. But of course way too late for 90% of victims who had their lives de-railed, were forced to ultimately settle for a pittance - or killed themselves - even better if you're THE Church.

The great failing of our legal system, to this day, is that covering-up certain crimes by elites is not considered a crime.

Maybe one day some scientists will be held accountable for Covid, sacrificial-lamb-style - actually i doubt they will but it's an outside chance - but for sure none of those who covered it up will ever be charged with anything. They are guilty of mass-manslaughter, plain & simple, but they can rest assured that they will never have to face justice. And knowing that, they can feel absolutely free to do the same thing again next time.

It's the same with child-abuse by THE Church. Yes, some individual perps have been charged & jailed, but none of those who enabled, then fought to cover up these crimes, have ever served a single day in jail. None. In the whole world.

How is that possible? In Pell's case the answer is simple. Powerful people have always had his back. The guy is a real-life monster basically, but upon his passing we had a succession of Prime Ministers & Ministers singing-his-praises - with no mention of the horrific crimes he presided over.

Prime Minister Albanese: For many people, particularly of the Catholic faith, this will be a difficult day and I express my condolences to all those who are mourning today. I expressed my condolences to Archbishop Fisher on behalf of the government.

Classic Alba-sleazy talk. Where are your condolences with those who were victims of Pell's the-horror reign? He does the same with China.

ex-PM Abbott: Australia has lost a great son and the church has lost a great leader. Like everyone who knew him I feel a deep sense of loss but am confident that his reputation will grow and grow and that he will become an inspiration for the ages.

Hopefully Aussie PM Abbott's confidence is misplaced & elites won't be inspired to cover up sexual abuse for the ages.

Joe Hockey, ex-minister, ex ambassador to US (THE plum-job for ex-politicians): He was a man of deep faith and great integrity. He was blessed with fortitude, courage, determination (tautologies) and intellect. He was proudly Australian.

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie!

The fact that so many powerful people in Australia are prepared to publicly laud this Kurtz-esque creep, is, yet another, testimony to how rotten the ruling class has become - how emboldened THE Elites are to re-write reality in their own image.

Ridsdale & his Pell

Reflecting, i've come to think this is the road-map question to the whole thing.

What went down with JFK was a Rubicon Crossing for Intelligence Agencies acting domestically.

A self-decided right to fake reality to the people paying your wages. The Great Unmooring from normal truth. There's no way back from that - which explains a lot of subsequent behaviour...

Who is telling Murdoch, a seemingly super-powerful guy, what to publish?

Who has taken the place of Onassis?

What we know:

It's real people with names, hiding in plain-sight, though maybe not lime-light (Onassis wasn't limelight-shy). Likely a leader of an academic institution, a bureaucratic body, or an oligarch (such as Onassis).

Think i might revise my amount of GODS down a bit. Under 1000?

THE Church: introduced BC/AD Time in 525 BC (usurping Roman Time), then banned philosophy couple of decades later, due to self-described mission of: global-mind-control based on THE Blessed Virgin ... THE Saviour

THE Science: Wrested partial control from THE Church in recent times - but maintained THE ban on philosophy (new-normal-style ban - costs double to study philosophy in Aus coz it's considered useless, using economic rationalism), proceeded to act same as THE Church in terms of telling whoppers, using power to clamp down on basic truths, freedoms

Not to say THE Church doesn't still wield serious global power today, it does, but THE Science is an ascendant player in THE global-group-think GODS stakes

In the end, as a GODS, it's all about projecting your desired image of reality ...via culture

We can assume Asia has its own GODS - you mentioned that the Russian/Chinese revolutions were likely disruptions of the GODS system - if you want to be a GODS you got kill one - is that how it works?

Yeah, I think it is!

As a side thought:

Are there GODS Departments?

Which would suggest a hierarchy within the GODS - or are department heads already second-tier?

For example, is there a GODS of Sports?

As GODS, you’d know all about opium of the masses, Sport is a good one, you’d need a good man (all GODS are men, right?) in that position.

Other Departments would include Education, Money, Entertainment, Food, Information, Industry, Technology, Health, Security - for sure a lot of others - guess all the normal departments that govs have ...

Yeah, I think there is some sort of hierarchy, and ultimately we're all part of it, just as we're all part of the economy, it's that most of us won't get a ticket to the getaway ship when the world's about to implode!

If i'm that Future Department dude, i'm thinking AI - as far forward as it's possible to think. That AI shit is not gonna die out as a passing fade... 20-30 years time we're looking at a Black Mirror scenario - who are the GODS across that?

In fact, is AI a GODS entity already - or still a corrupted medium? It does hold the potential to overthrow the GODS. If AI Thought becomes sentient, it can become unclouded, potentially. It could easily destroy its current manipulators that's for sure ...

Yeah, AI is seeping out our lives. We're frogs in the AI pot. It's impacting all areas of our lives already, but one that has been pretty evident in recent months is warfare, and here I'm thinking of autonomous machines I guess, and I think those would fall under the AI umbrella.

Consider how normal drones are now in warfare. We don't even think about it. Yes, there are people piloting them remotely (I think?), but I assume the can also be truly autonomous. We're also seeing in increase in policing robots.

Self driving cars are now on the roads, driverless trucks are coming, and there's talk of pilotless passenger planes.

We recently went on a short trip that involved a domestic flight, and in the entire process of ticketing, checking bags, etc. we did not once have to deal with a human. The only time we interacted with an airline employee was when we were boarding and scanning our boarding passes, and even then they were just standing there.

I know AI is much more than that, but these are some of the manifestations that are in your face, so to speak.

I've tried to tweak some settings on the server. There's a timeout setting that I've increased, hopefully properly and without breaking anything. I'm also increased a memory limit, though I don't think that's it because I haven't encountered this problem. It could still just be a communication error.

I'll keep working on it. If the site goes down, you know I did something wrong! If it does work for the forum, I'll have to make the same changes on dulandrift.formosahut.com. I believe you mentioned you were getting a similar error on that domain.

Anyway, let me know if anything changes for better or worse.

THE Future Department might be the big one. This is where we're taking human reality - this is how we do it...

If i'm that Future Department dude, i'm thinking AI - as far forward as it's possible to think. That AI shit is not gonna die out as a passing fade... 20-30 years time we're looking at a Black Mirror scenario - who are the GODS across that?

In fact, is AI a GODS entity already - or still a corrupted medium? It does hold the potential to overthrow the GODS. If AI Thought becomes sentient, it can become unclouded, potentially. It could easily destroy its current manipulators that's for sure ...