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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve always been suspect of 5G simply because there was no public debate about the fact that we&#039;re all (those of us in cities anyway) going to be living within a hundred feet or so of 5G repeaters.</p>
<p>I did a bit of research a couple years ago. <a href="http://formosahut.com/bookmarks/?searchtags=5G+">Here are some links</a> that I collected at the time. I&#039;ll add the Epoch article to that.</p>
<p>And just in the last couple of days, I&#039;ve been reading about and listening to John Gray, a philosopher I&#039;m surprised I wasn&#039;t more familiar with, but then I&#039;m far from an academic. </p>
<p>I became aware of his book via <a href="https://poeticoutlaws.substack.com/p/the-myth-of-human-progress">this posting on Poetic Outlaws</a>, the title of which is <strong>The Myth of Human Progress</strong>. That attracted me immediately because for a long time I&#039;ve held that we don&#039;t progress at all. We&#039;re the same animal we were 100,000 years ago. We confuse technical progress with human progress, and it&#039;s not.</p>
<p>In other words, we think because we&#039;re progressing technically, we are somehow &#039;better&#039;. The current state of the world should obviously dispel any such idea.</p>
<p>I&#039;m just scratching the surface of Gray&#039;s ideas, but one seems to be that humanism is the new religion, which aligns with discussions on this forum about science and technology being the new religion.</p>
<p>It all makes sense. Science is what God was, and just as you didn&#039;t question God, you don&#039;t question Science and its Experts, because to do so will get you burnt at the digital stake in today&#039;s world.</p>
<p>And this gets back to 5G and why it&#039;s been allowed to simply appear.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2023 06:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
<category>General</category><dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember being called a <em>tinfoil-hat 5G nut</em> several times when questioning the origin of Covid.  Never thought much about 5G until then, but having seen the shoddy science up close used to discredit lab-leak speculation,  i became suspicious about anything that people were being demonized for questioning - including 5G.</p>
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<a href="https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/recent-case-of-severe-microwave-syndrome-reveals-problems-with-5g_5221534.html?utm_source=Aomorningbriefnoe&amp;src_src=Aomorningbriefnoe&amp;utm_campaign=Aomb-2023-04-30&amp;src_cmp=Aomb-2023-04-30&amp;utm_medium=Aoemail&amp;est=BfETBA0RlMrzr6676yW7U2zM0GFqIq%2BsYT0BWte79rbxM8UPnFN%2BqTBMP6TfZmL2">Epoch Times:</a>  <em>After a 5G base station was installed within 60 meters of her second-floor apartment, a middle-aged, otherwise healthy, Swedish woman developed debilitating symptoms corresponding with radiofrequency (RF)/microwave syndrome, researchers at the Environment and Cancer Research Foundation (ECRF) in Sweden reported this month. This was the third such case the researchers had documented.</em></p>
<p><em>According to their case study, published in Annals of Clinical and Medical Case Reports, fifth generation (5G) wireless technology is being rolled out worldwide “despite <strong>no previous research on possible negative effects</strong> on human health and the environment.”</em></p>
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How the fuck do you rollout 5G worldwide with <em>no previous research on possible negative effects</em>?!</p>
<p>Well we know how -  if you block all safety studies then you can keep insisting there&#039;s <em>no evidence</em> of negative effects.  Which enables you to go open slather.</p>
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<em>Studies on possible health effects from exposure to 5G frequencies were all but non-existent until recently. In a study published in October 2022, animals were exposed to the 5G frequency of 3.5 GHz for 2 hours a day, 5 days a week for one month. The exposure caused oxidative stress and an increase of <strong>degenerated neurons</strong> in the hippocampus region of the <strong>brain</strong>, in addition to decreased irisin levels, a hormone positively correlated with weight loss and healthy cognitive function.</em></p>
<p>I recall Dan saying 5G doesn&#039;t actually benefit normal people one iota - it&#039;s all about running AI tech, especially driverless cars.  </p>
<p>So it&#039;s global corporate interests pushing it - replete with their usual concern for the health of the little people.</p>
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Given the extensiveness of 5G, as a public health disaster, this could surpass the fallout from Covid vaccines.  At least with vaccines, most people have stopped taking them, but you can&#039;t stop taking 5G radiation if you&#039;re in the firing line of a base station.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2023 12:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
<category>General</category><dc:creator>dulan drift</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>5G is being implemented for driverless vehicles. That&#039;s the main reason. They&#039;re selling it as something that will make your stupid smart phone work better. Bullshit. It&#039;s all about the vehicles. Can you imagine how much money industry will make if they can: 1) not have to hire drivers, and 2) sell all the new vehicles?</p>
</blockquote><p>That&#039;s an interesting insight on the driverless vehicles - 5G is paving the cyber way to a world ruled by robots?</p>
<p>  </p>
<blockquote><p>This is a corporate rape, basically. It doesn&#039;t benefit us. 5G won&#039;t benefit me in any way, at all. And we should be selfish and ask ourselves, will this really benefit me? How?</p>
<p>It won&#039;t.</p>
</blockquote><p>Can&#039;t think of anything to add to that.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2022 10:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/d42473-019-00009-7">Andrew Wood, Swinburne:</a> <em>We <strong>believe </strong>the main biological effect of the electromagnetic radiation from mobile phones is a <strong>rise in temperature</strong>.  There are also concerns that <strong>there could be more subtle</strong> effects, such as links between long-term exposure and certain types of cancer, but while there is <strong>some evidence</strong> from epidemiological and animal studies, these <strong>remain controversial</strong>.<br />
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</blockquote><p>The way Nature couches the language is typical of the slippery <em>truth-variant</em> (saw that on a Melbourne protest placard) the world&#039;s leading science mag produces.</p>
<p>First off - the <em>rise in temperature</em> is a good point. You don&#039;t need to overthink electromagnetic  waves floating through space - the point is they&#039;re <em>hot</em>. Putting your head/body too close to a source of heat is not good - whether it&#039;s a fire or electromagnetic radiation. </p>
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Science establishment&#039;s Covid response comes from a well-worn playbook:<br />
1. <em>Well, there&#039;s no evidence - we know that coz we suppressed it</em> - then when it escapes anyway:</p>
<p>2. <em>There&#039;s some evidence from epidemiological and animal studies of a cancer link - but it <strong>remains controversial</strong>.</em> </p>
<p>So <em>some evidence</em> still = no evidence.  (a la Ivermectin, Covid origin, vaccines, you name it)</p>
<p>Nice trick - another one of those <em>mysteries of science</em> that we may never know ...</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2022 10:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I read about 5G, the more I want to live someplace remote when I retire. For 5G to work, you have to be within a few hundred feet of a transmitter/amplifier. The idea is to have them every block or two. They&#039;ll be ubiquitous. To say that that will have NO effect on health is dishonest. It will have an effect. </p>
<p>5G is being implemented for driverless vehicles. That&#039;s the main reason. They&#039;re selling it as something that will make your stupid smart phone work better. Bullshit. It&#039;s all about the vehicles. Can you imagine how much money industry will make if they can: 1) not have to hire drivers, and 2) sell all the new vehicles?</p>
<p>This is a corporate rape, basically. It doesn&#039;t benefit us. 5G won&#039;t benefit me in any way, at all. And we should be selfish and ask ourselves, will this really benefit me? How?</p>
<p>It won&#039;t.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 11:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60237839">BBC:</a> <em>Pulsed electromagnetic energy &quot;plausibly explains&quot; some of the cases of the mysterious &quot;Havana Syndrome&quot; illness, a new US intelligence community report says.</em></p>
<p><em>The panel found four &quot;core characteristics&quot; that represented the symptoms - including a sense of pressure and that something was coming from a particular direction or location. </em></p>
<p><em>The study found that pulsed electromagnetic energy, particularly in the radiofrequency range, &quot;plausibly explains&quot; the core characteristics, although it says that there remain gaps in the information.</em></p>
<p><em>It says that non-standard antennas could create the effects on the human body. Such a source could be concealed and require only moderate power. It could also travel through the air and through walls of buildings.</em></p>
<p>Kinda strange how electromagnetic energy can cause Havana syndrome but it&#039;s supposedly safe in 5G antennae transmissions and anyone who says otherwise is a nut.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/d42473-019-00009-7">Andrew Wood, Swinburne:</a> <em>We believe the main biological effect of the electromagnetic radiation from mobile phones is a rise in temperature.  There are also concerns that there could be more subtle effects, such as links between long-term exposure and certain types of cancer, but while there is some evidence from epidemiological and animal studies, these remain controversial.<br />
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