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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how often they hear a small (or big) ding on the roof of their cab. It must make the heart skip a beat. Or feel the whole thing shift sideways.</p>
<p>Another scary thing to look at are the guys who work barefoot on the bamboo scaffolding many stories above ground with no safety net or harness. I don&#039;t have any pictures but you see it all the time.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2022 20:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those guys driving the big earth-moving rigs in Taiwan deserve a medal. That&#039;s gotta be one of the hairiest jobs going around moving landslides off roads -  but they&#039;re always out there as soon as the typhoon passes.  </p>
<p>One thing people often under-appreciate about the Taiwanese character is the toughness. </p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2022 22:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throw in an M5 earthquake for good measure - epicentre looks very close to Dulan.</p>
<p>That could easily go again, potentially bigger as well.  </p>
<p>Meanwhile, whole east coast is getting pummeled - serious kinda subsystem hitting Taitung right now</p>
<p><img src="https://www.cwb.gov.tw/Data/satellite/LCC_IR1_MB_en_2750/LCC_IR1_MB_en_2750-2022-10-31-18-40.jpg" alt="[image]"  /></p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 11:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>At least <a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-30/tropical-storm-nalgae-lashes-philippines-at-least-50-dead/101595144">50 people killed</a> in Philippines - lots more missing.  All due to rain/mudslides.</p>
<p>Ilan has had another 1000mm over the last couple of days - they must be on track for a world record - by my reckoning they&#039;ve had 5000mm+ in the last month or so.</p>
<p>Wherever Nalge ends up, there will be floods/landlsides.  HK appears to be in the firing line.</p>
</blockquote><p>5000mm is an unbelievable amount of rain. Fifteen feet +. Of rain. If that were snow, it would be <strong>over 100 feet</strong>. The rough conversion of rain to snow is 1 to 5, but according to <a href="https://www.calculatorapp.org/rain-to-snow-calculator/index.html">this calculator</a>, temperature makes a big difference. </p>
<p>It sure looks like the east coast is in  for it:</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2022 23:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least <a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-30/tropical-storm-nalgae-lashes-philippines-at-least-50-dead/101595144">50 people killed</a> in Philippines - lots more missing.  All due to rain/mudslides.</p>
<p>Ilan has had another 1000mm over the last couple of days - they must be on track for a world record - by my reckoning they&#039;ve had 5000mm+ in the last month or so.</p>
<p>Wherever Nalge ends up, there will be floods/landlsides.  HK appears to be in the firing line.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2022 22:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what i was talking about - that powerful swirl of rain could easily have been torrented into the south east coast if Nalgae was where it was predicted to go, further north, which it didn&#039;t.  </p>
<p>Couple that with a slow or stalled path up the west coast of the Kenting peninsula (also not happening), you would have <em>the big one</em> so far as a mega-rain event in Taitung.  </p>
<p><img src="https://www.cwb.gov.tw/Data/radar/CV1_3600_202210301400.png" alt="[image]"  /></p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2022 06:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks messy structurally but it&#039;s wielding a lot of weather in it&#039;s swirl.  Taiwan east coast will still get big rain but now CWB has it headed for Hainan - straight-runner - not abnormal for this time of year.  High looks rock solid - can&#039;t see it drifting northward.  All lows gravitate towards the poles - it&#039;s where they want to go - so takes a solid High to force them to do the opposite.  </p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2022 10:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the models seem to be shifting to a more westerly track. This <a href="http://www.typhoon2000.ph">http://www.typhoon2000.ph</a> always been a good reference, but maybe not quite as up to the minute as Taiwan&#039;s CWB. </p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2022 10:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CWB has gone full-180.  Yesterday it was gonna turn sharp nee, today they&#039;ve got it going as a straight-runner (sww)</p>
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Landfall on PPE will take some sting out of it for TW but will likely still bring down-big-rain for Taitung. Apart from the High, it&#039;s all about the moisture feed-in, which looks strong for Nalgae, may even be another queuing up behind.</p>
<p>Nov 4:<br />
<img src="https://www.cwb.gov.tw/Data/fcst_img/2022-1028-1200_A018HD_small.png?t=2022102821-1" alt="[image]"  /></p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2022 10:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#039;re right. This doesn&#039;t look reassuring.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2022 01:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One to watch.  From this Nov 1 position, it&#039;s expected to recurve dramatically to the ne - miss Taiwan altogether.  Move away quickly.   Guess the thinking is it&#039;s gonna chase the coldfront to the east.  If that happens it&#039;ll be fine.  </p>
<p>If the high were to build in, however, block its run, causing it to stall in the Nov 1 position, drift up the west coast of Kenting peninsular - that&#039;s the nightmare scenario for a big rain event on the south east coat.  Like a reverse Morakot effect.  </p>
<p>Never seen it happen, not exactly, but it&#039;s possible.</p>
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<img src="https://www.cwb.gov.tw/Data/fcst_img/2022-1027-1200_A016HD_small.png?t=2022102721-5" alt="[image]"  /></p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2022 11:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shi-lin District, downtown Taipei, has had 1800mm in the last 3-days(!) - and counting.  It is causing flooding &amp; landslides.  Interestingly, no day off for Taipei.  </p>
<p>Meanwhile Victoria is still flooded with its 150mm.  It&#039;s kinda surreal - it hasn&#039;t rained for a couple of days but the flood waters are flowing down the major rivers, swamping towns as they go. My uncle is in one of those towns. He went under in &#039;74 (few inches) but appears to be ok, just, this time.</p>
<p>Has come out that a flood prevention wall built to protect a racecourse resulted in a transference of water into the adjacent residential area in Melbourne.  That&#039;s like the opposite of a flood-mitigation project.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2022 13:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>9News:</strong>  <em>As floodwaters continue to rise, emergency services chiefs have warned the state could experience &quot;some of the <strong>largest evacuations&quot; in the state&#039;s history</strong>.</em></p>
<p>Seriously?  For 150mm of rain spread across two days?!  Is Australia&#039;s flood mitigation really that pathetic?</p>
<p>Meanwhile Taipei has had another 600mm+ since yesterday - with a lot more to come.  Typhoon Nesat is passing south of Taiwan, which is exactly where it can kick up moisture to the east coast which then interacts with the monsoon. </p>
<p><img src="https://www.cwb.gov.tw/Data/radar/CV1_3600_202210160550.png" alt="[image]"  /></p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2022 22:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.9news.com.au/national/victoria-floods-weather-forecast-melbourne-wedderburn-dam-failure-warning-carisbrook-seymour-rochester-evacuations/25b78251-0364-4736-993b-7f2bf76324c2">9 News:</a> <em>Thousands of homes across Victoria are now inundated or isolated by floodwater in what authorities have described as a &quot;major emergency for the state&quot;.<br />
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Emergency Management Commissioner Andrew Crisp:  <em>This is a major emergency and we consider this a <strong>state of disaster</strong>.</em></p>
<p>Those words make me nervous coming out of Victoria. This is a state that holds all the world records for most draconian lockdowns - etc - all made possible by declaring a<em> State of Disaster</em>.  It gives the premier dictatorial control.  It&#039;s a power-trip.  It&#039;s also frighteningly popular amongst Victorians, which then feeds back into the power-trip.  </p>
<p>The Vic floods do raise questions about Australia&#039;s, especially Vic&#039;s preparedness for severe weather events.</p>
<p>A week ago we were posting about 1500 mil of rain in Ilan, the only noticeable impact being a round boulder hole in a car roof - this <em>State of Disaster</em> event in Victoria involved 150 mil spread over two days.  That&#039;s the peak areas.  Most places had well under 100 for two days.</p>
<p>Places that are used to extreme weather, such as Taiwan, may be at an advantage coz they&#039;ve already got the infrastructure to cope with it - the drains, the concrete housing, the emergency response network.  But when we&#039;ve got places going under after 150 mil in the mountains, then that shows how worryingly exposed large parts of the world are to extreme events.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2022 11:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><img src="https://formosahut.com/forum/images/uploaded/20221008233402634208eaaa8b3.jpg" alt="[image]" width="920" height="690" /></p>
</blockquote><p>Man, that&#039;s as fucking scary as you can get without being dead ...</p>
<p>Why that Su-Hwa Highway was still open on Saturday is questionable.  They have big iron gates to lock it down.</p>
<p>Interestingly, the gates were introduced after the buses were swept off the cliffs in landslides during a very similar event - happened Oct 23, 2010.  It wasn&#039;t a typhoon directly - though there was a typhoon (Megi) that passed south of Taiwan that contributed moisture - but it was the interaction with the NE monsoon that set the downpours off.  There&#039;s something about that outcrop between Su-Ao to Nan-Ao where it goes crazy when a typhoon mixes with the dong-bei-ji.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2010/10/23/2003486674">https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2010/10/23/2003486674</a></p>
<p>Edit: Dug up the Megi 2010 track</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2022 10:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Still, wouldn&#039;t want to be driving on the Su-Ao highway - there must be landslides, surely.</p>
</blockquote><p>It looks like the family of this car wishes they hadn&#039;t:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4680849">Falling rock smashes into family’s car on east Taiwan freeway</a></p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2022 23:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We know Ilan (NE Taiwan) is wet, but the rain they&#039;ve had in the last 3 days is phenomenal.  They&#039;ve already racked up 1500 mm - and still the radar is showing persistent storm activity in the same spot.</p>
<p>It&#039;s not a typhoon - just a relatively small system stuck in the same area.  Anywhere else in the world that would be a major disaster, but it shows how well Taiwan is prepared for big rain plus the natural run-off from the coastal range.  Still, wouldn&#039;t want to be driving on the Su-Ao highway - there must be landslides, surely.</p>
<p>The system is meant to drift south today towards Hualien/Taitung.  It&#039;s packing an incredible punch for something that looks like nothing on the sat image, so watch out!</p>
<p>Meanwhile, there does appear to be typhoon brewing in the usual spot E of PPE.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, looks pretty bad. Our old house is far north of the action, about an hour north of Tampa, and it&#039;s not nearly as nice as the one in your screen grab! But it sounds like parts got hit pretty badly.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2022 10:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots &amp; lots of destruction in Florida. This could be up there as one of the worst hurricanes to hit the US - still churning away as it comes out on the east coast.  Dan, i wonder how your old house got on?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s a bit early to raise the alarm, but Roke looks like it will not be a straight shooter. </p>
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