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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was revisiting the Proximal Origin paper to check out the pangolin angle - came across this curious chain.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9">Prox O:</a> <em>Malayan pangolins illegally imported into Guangdong province contain coronaviruses similar to SARS-CoV-2 (ref 21) .. Although RaTG13 .. remains the closest to SARS-CoV-2, .. some pangolin coronaviruses exhibit strong similarity to SARS-CoV-2. .. This <strong>clearly shows </strong>that the SARS-CoV-2  .. is the result of natural selection.</em></p>
<p>I checked their ref for the<em> illegally imported</em> pangolin - it&#039;s <a href="https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.19.950253v1.full">this paper</a>.<br />
Published Feb 20, 2020 <br />
Authors: Tao Zhang, Qunfu Wu, Zhigang Zhang, Chinese Academy of Science, Kunming, Yunan</p>
<p>Interestingly, Garry says Prox O draft was finished by Feb 1 - so their key pangolin claim is reffed to a paper that hadn&#039;t been published by that stage - which suggests some communication with the above authors. Nothing wrong with that - just registering it.</p>
<p>But the above paper is still not the source for <em>illegally imported</em> pangolin. In turn, they ref a <a href="https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/11/11/979/htm?smid=nytcore-ios-share">previous paper</a> which conducted tests on 11 dead pangolin seized by customs.<br />
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Authors: Ping Liu, Wu Chen 2 and <strong>Jin-Ping Chen</strong> (Institute of Zoology, Guangdong Academy of Sciences, Guangzhou)</p>
<p>Received: 30 September 2019 / Revised: 21 October 2019 / Accepted: 21 October 2019 / Published: <strong>24 October 2019 </strong><br />
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The dates are interesting. Nobody was studying pangolin viruses - the authors talk about how neglected they were as a topic - suddenly a paper appears - right in the Covid-emergence-timeframe.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/11/11/979/htm?smid=nytcore-ios-share">Jin-ping Chen et al:</a> <em>Recently, the prediction of viral zoonosis epidemics has become a major public health issue... <strong>Malayan pangolins could be another host with the potential of transmitting the SARS coronavirus to humans.</strong></em></p>
<p>Remember, this is pre-Covid&#039;s emergence being public.</p>
<p>Either they were incredibly prescient - to the point that the Covid outbreak happened within days of their prediction, or .... this was part of the set-up.</p>
<p>Then there&#039;s this: Jin-Ping Chen has previously collabed on this paper in 2014: <em>Evidence for Retrovirus and Paramyxovirus Infection of Multiple Bat Species in China</em><br />
Pub: 2014</p>
<p>Get a load of the authors on that:</p>
<p>Lihong Yuan, Min Li, Linmiao Li, Corina Monagin,  Aleksei A. <strong>Chmura</strong>, Bradley S. <strong>Schneider</strong>, Jonathan H. <strong>Epstein</strong>, Xiaolin Mei, <strong>Zhengli Shi</strong>, <strong>Peter Daszak</strong>, and <strong>Jinping Chen</strong></p>
<p>Three are from EHA, plus Schneider, a frequent EHA collaborator - with Shi Zhengli from WIV.</p>
<p>What does that prove? Not much. But it&#039;s another tantalizing coincidence. We know Prox O was purpose written to counter the conspiracy theorists coz the authors tell us that straight out. </p>
<p>In the desperate scramble to create a zoonotic narrative, was this paper also purpose written - or co-opted and re-edited - to fit the scenario?</p>
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