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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s the great lie at the heart of world politics. I would challenge anyone to argue how China&#039;s totalitarianism is better than Russia&#039;s. Whereas with the USSR we had the cold war and trade sanctions, and even recently, presidential impeachment proceedings, with China it&#039;s like a love-in for business people and scientists.</p>
<p>Imagine American scientists conducting clandestine collaborations with Soviet scientists at Soviet biodefense labs to work on potential bioweapons - then not publishing their work outside the Russian lab and refusing to answer questions about it. They&#039;d be locked up as traitorous spies. But that&#039;s exactly the situation we&#039;ve got today with scientist collaborating with WIV - but this time the media treats them like they&#039;re untouchable gods.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2021 04:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s pretty frightening how easily Hong Kong was subjugated and the world for the most part remained silent. It&#039;s pretty clear that freedom is all fine and dandy with leaders in the West until it affects the bottom line. Whether it&#039;s Hong Kong or or Xinjiang, leaders of the free world blow a lot of hot air, but at the end of the day, they can&#039;t let it all get in the way of business.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2021 07:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is how brainwashing works. The frightening thing is that it&#039;s effective.</p>
<p>&quot;Children <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-55948773?piano-modal">as young as six</a> are to learn about crimes under Hong Kong&#039;s national security law.</p>
<p>Schools will be asked to monitor children&#039;s behaviour and report any support for the pro-democracy movement, as part of new education rules.&quot;</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2021 22:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That makes drive-through testing a bit tricky!</p>
</blockquote><p>Good point. That&#039;s why i reckon we should patent ‘anal recognition technology’. </p>
<p>We could become the next tech-whiz entrepreneur gazillionaires.</p>
<p>Here&#039;s how it could work (stop me if this is too much information):  </p>
<p>I have a Japanese style toilet - seems more hygienic - just wanted it for the water - but modern ones sense you sitting down - make whirring noises - lights are activated. Freaks guests out a little bit but i&#039;m used to it - find it comforting even.</p>
<p>How hard can it be to equip that existing setup with an anal recognition function? </p>
<p>We know Covid can be detected in sewerage - now you will be able to trace that all the way back to the actual arse-hole it came out of.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2021 07:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That makes drive-through testing a bit tricky!</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2021 07:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Literally.</p>
<p>&quot;Health authorities in China are using anal swabs to mass test residents for coronavirus amidst a severe outbreak spreading from the north-east of the country.</p>
<p>Doctors claim the procedure can be more effective in detecting the virus than nasal swabs.&quot;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/coronavirus-australia-live-news-australia-ranked-eighth-in-lowy-institutes-covid-performance-index/news-story/abb6913c12de7a1c401e999987dc3c7e">https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/coronavirus-australia-live-news-australia-ranke...</a> (paywall)</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Internet allows us to live in idea mirrors, echo chambers, or whatever the term is. Decentralization actually will make that problem worse by making it easier for people to hide in their own idea caves. </p>
<p>In effect, decentralization will allow us all to retreat to our own thought neighborhoods that we existed in before the Internet! So this is a real conundrum. </p>
<p>On the one hand, decentralization allows more freedom. On the other, we use that freedom to avoid new ideas and surround ourselves with the comfort of familiarity.</p>
</blockquote><p>Good analysis, &#039;conundrum&#039; is the right word - just to echo your remarks haha.  </p>
<p>One thing about the Covid origin arguments, however, it has thrown up some strange bedfellows - which breaks through the echo chamber to some extent. For example, most people on the left trust the experts and believe it was the result of natural selection, whereas the right is more likely to believe the lab scenario.</p>
<p>Then there are those that have an opinion on the origin that is formed without regard to left or right thinking. It would be nice if this engenders a rise in independent analysis - outside the web of both party machines. </p>
<p>Alan Deshowitz describes himself as a &#039;liberal Democrat&#039; but has an <a href="https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/fighting-for-the-right-to-speak-even-donald-trump/news-story/02d3e017642db2019490c6e66aed1518">interesting perspective</a> (paywall) that relates to the above: </p>
<p>&quot;There is a crisis in free speech led by the United States but literally around the world. And the tragedy is it’s being led by the left. I grew up with McCarthyism. There were great threats to free speech from the right, and we, liberals, stood up for free speech because naturally they were suppressing our free speech.</p>
<p>Today, the conservatives are speaking up for free speech, because the left is repressing their free speech. There are very, very few people out there who say “free speech for me and for thee, rather than free speech for me but not for thee”.</p>
<p>The left have become so certain of their truth that they don’t think there’s a need for dissent. They don’t think there’s a need for due process. Many support cancel culture which is a direct denial of both freedom of speech and due process. With certainty comes intolerance.&quot;</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2021 21:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, this decentralized model doesn&#039;t necessarily solve the major problem with the Internet with regards to sharing information, discussing issues, and coming to conclusions based on sound evidence and logic.</p>
<p>And that major problem is that the Internet allows us to live in idea mirrors, echo chambers, or whatever the term is. Decentralization actually will make that problem worse by making it easier for people to hide in their own idea caves. </p>
<p>In effect, decentralization will allow us all to retreat to our own thought neighborhoods that we existed in before the Internet! So this is a real conundrum. </p>
<p>On the one hand, decentralization allows more freedom. On the other, we use that freedom to avoid new ideas and surround ourselves with the comfort of familiarity.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2021 12:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But there&#039;s a helluva lot of stuff that doesn&#039;t really hurt anyone that still gets the full cancel-culture treatment. This is where big-tech appears to be heading - &#039;We believe in free speech - so long as you don&#039;t say anything that we disagree with.&#039;</p>
</blockquote><p>Noted, but this is where technology may step in. Censorship is now possible because all major platforms are centralized, i.e., there is a gatekeeper. Decentralized technologies will remove the gatekeeper, to an extent. The highest level gatekeeper is the ISP, not the platform like Twitter. People connect to the Internet via an ISP, so they are the highest level gatekeeper, right now.</p>
<p>China enacts gatekeeping via the ISP level. Western countries haven&#039;t gone there yet, at least not explicitly.</p>
<p>But the IPFS and blockchain models are major gamechangers. IPFS, as it exists now, will likely die out, but something will replace it. Blockchain tech is absolutely going nowhere. It is the future. The old (current) model of databases on servers is so clearly inferior to what decentralized data structures provide NOW that it&#039;s just not a guessing game. This is why all the big banks and old school companies like IBM are getting into it, albeit quietly. </p>
<p>These technologies are going to leapfrog Twitter, Facebook, etc. Check out <a href="https://solidproject.org/">SOLID</a> and <a href="https://ethereum.org/en/">Ethereum</a></p>
<p>So there is a lot on the horizon happening. This is an incredibly exciting time in technology. We are on the brink of something as big as the beginning of the Internet. I believe that. The entire Internet is based on centralized servers and data. That is being disrupted right now. I keep telling my high school students that they&#039;d better start learning about this stuff.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2021 11:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with censorship is that &#039;Who decides what to censor?&#039; and &#039;Who censors the censors?&#039;</p>
<p>For example, we have top experts telling us China is &quot;open and transparent&quot;. That is Covid misinformation - pure and simple, but there has been no move to ban these experts from Twitter or anything else - not even a &#039;Disputed Claim&#039; notification. That doesn&#039;t bother me at all - so long as i&#039;m free to publish details as to why China is not &quot;open and transparent&quot;. But when that right is under threat, that&#039;s when i have concerns. Sure i can publish on Formosahut, which i&#039;m grateful for, but I would never be granted access to mainstream media platforms to challenge those claims. (I know this coz i&#039;ve tried haha! The reply is either no reply or &#039;Now is not the time to talk about that.&#039;)</p>
<p>I remember a long time ago you made a point about calculating a response to something by asking the question: &#039;How is this hurting me (or others)?&#039; If it&#039;s not, or if it just offends my sensibilities, then that&#039;s not grounds for banning it.</p>
<p>That stuck with me and i often use it as a rule of thumb. In the category of things that do hurt, we have racism, homophobia, sexism, violence, human rights abuses etc</p>
<p>But there&#039;s a helluva lot of stuff that doesn&#039;t really hurt anyone that still gets the full cancel-culture treatment. This is where big-tech appears to be heading - &#039;We believe in free speech - so long as you don&#039;t say anything that we disagree with.&#039;</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2021 02:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This arguably necessary application of censorship by the tech giants could nudge the decentralized movement closer to mainstream (or fringe, in this case) adoption. I&#039;m talking here about <a href="https://ipfs.io/">IPFS</a> and also future applications built on blockchain technology. </p>
<p><a href="https://peepeth.com/welcome">Peepeth</a> is a blockchain powered social network that also uses IPFS. It is moderated, so crazies calling for overthrow of governments or inquiring about kiddie porn aren&#039;t going to be welcomed there, but there&#039;s nothing stopping Parler wannabes from creating exactly the same thing without moderation.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2021 10:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One good thing that could come out of this is internet diversification. Google/Apple/Amazon pulling the plug on Parler was a big moment. That could backfire spectacularly down the track.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-10/apple-bans-social-media-site-parler-from-app-store-after-us-riot/13045868">https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-10/apple-bans-social-media-site-parler-from-app-sto...</a></p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2021 10:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This could be the &#039;cyber-attack of the century&#039;. It penetrated government departments, major corporations and even cyber-security firms.</p>
<p>&quot;Prof Alan Woodward, a cyber-security researcher at the University of Surrey, says: &quot;Post Cold War, this is one of the potentially <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-55321643">largest penetrations of Western governments</a> that I&#039;m aware of.&quot;</p>
<p>The funny thing is that it was so simple the way they did it. Forget about going after all these heavily fortified entities individually with their mega-security budgets - just hack the company that supplies them with software - then wait for them to upload it!</p>
<p>As the articles point out - it&#039;s not an &#039;in and out&#039; disruption thing - the consequences are unknown and will reverberate years into the future.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-30/sunburst-cyber-hack-solarwinds-software-cybersecurity-expert/13021104">https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-30/sunburst-cyber-hack-solarwinds-software-cybersec...</a></p>
<p>PS. I had to &#039;hack&#039; my way past the spam filter to get this post up - seems it picked up something it didn&#039;t like.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2021 22:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Muslims in China’s Xinjiang were “arbitrarily” selected for arrest by a computer program that flagged suspicious behavior, rights campaigners said yesterday, in a report detailing big data’s role in repression in the restive region.</p>
<p>&quot;Surveillance spending in Xinjiang has ballooned in the past few years, with facial recognition, iris scanners, DNA collection and artificial intelligence deployed across the region in the name of preventing terrorism.&quot;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2020/12/10/2003748449">https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2020/12/10/2003748449</a></p>
<p>This is another example of &#039;the future now&#039;. Before people didn&#039;t care too much about China&#039;s human rights violations - many still don&#039;t - so long as they keep it to within their own country. </p>
<p>But the internet takes it beyond the Chinese border. Data is being collected from all around the world and is ready to be weaponized when the time comes.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2020 05:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/animals/gordon-chang-china-is-collecting-the-worlds-dna-and-the-reason-is-sinister/vi-BB1bDDLL">This video from Gordon Chang</a> talks about CCP&#039;s concerted effort to collect the world&#039;s DNA.</p>
<p>The program has experienced a Covid-enhanced bump. For example, whenever they conduct vaccine trial tests in foreign countries, DNA is collected.</p>
<p>Chinese entities also own large parts of ancestry companies - indeed they subsidize the cost of analysing DNA on these sites - just to get the data.</p>
<p>They hack insurance company and medical databases.</p>
<p>Chang makes the point that whether you think Covid was a biological weapon or not, it proves that biological weapons do work - exhibit A - the mess America was reduced to - within months.</p>
<p>He argues that controlling the DNA data means you now know how to tailor a virus to attack a particular ethnic group.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2020 02:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if this is data war - could be.</p>
<p>&quot;Chinese scientists have revealed they will use satellites and rockets as part of an ambitious project to artificially create rainfall.&quot;</p>
<p>On the surface, it could be a useful technology - bringing rain to drought areas - though i&#039;m wary of fighting climate change through artificial weather manipulation.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#039;s supposed to happen fast. Due to &quot;breakthroughs in research and new technologies&quot; the plan is to have a <a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-04/china-announces-expansion-to-weather-modification/12952590">&quot;developed weather modification system&quot;</a> by 2025. Includes an area the size of India.</p>
<p>So if this is a another technology taking off - literally to the stratosphere - where is that gonna go?</p>
<p>Manipulating typhoons - causing floods - droughts - heatwaves - blizzards? You&#039;d imagine all those possibilities would be logical extensions.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple Daily owner, Jimmy Lai (73), and activist Joshua Wong (24) have been locked up. </p>
<p>Their crimes: voicing opinions.</p>
<p>At least it shows the inter-generational solidarity in HK. </p>
<p>Lai is awaiting trial, while Wong was sentenced to 13 and half months. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2020/12/04/2003748078">https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2020/12/04/2003748078</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/02/hong-kong-activist-joshua-wong-jailed-over-protest-police-hq">https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/02/hong-kong-activist-joshua-wong-jailed-ove...</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s important to remember, it&#039;s not just China who is into mass surveillance technology - maybe i&#039;m guilty of focusing too much on their exploits. </p>
<p>This is an interesting article on American Big Data company called Palantir. Came across them browsing the stock market. So far as the Covid K curve goes, Palantir is on the up-ramp, having increased 175% this year. </p>
<p>What do they do? Supply big data scraping algorithms to governments, the military, and mega-corporations.</p>
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<a href="https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/land-and-expand-secretive-palantir-makes-its-market-debut-20201001-p560uu.html">https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/land-and-expand-secretive-palantir-makes-its-ma...</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DNA surveillance is one of the last frontiers remaining in total surveillance state. Covid has fast-forwarded us into this Brave New World faster than we thought.</p>
<p>One of the main functions of the Uyghur re-education camps was a playground for this sort of stuff.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note from Dulan Drift: Hope you don&#039;t mind Dan but i moved this post to here.</p>
<p>DAN WROTE: </p>
<p>China Wants Your DNA—and It&#039;s up To No Good</p>
<p><a href="https://www.newsweek.com/china-wants-your-dna-its-no-good-opinion-1550998">https://www.newsweek.com/china-wants-your-dna-its-no-good-opinion-1550998</a></p>
<p>The story starts:</p>
<p>&quot;We need to further harmonize policies and standards and establish &#039;fast tracks&#039; to facilitate the orderly flow of personnel,&quot; said Chinese ruler Xi Jinping to the virtual G20 Leaders&#039; Summit on November 21. &quot;China has proposed a global mechanism on the mutual recognition of health certificates based on nucleic acid test results in the form of internationally accepted QR codes. We hope more countries will join this mechanism.&quot;</p>
<p>China wants a worldwide database of DNA records on qrode. Yep, they want us all to have a qrcode. No doubt they&#039;d prefer it be tattooed on our foreheads.</p>
<p>And they&#039;re using COVID as justification for pushing through and making it a reality.</p>
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