The GODS (General)

by dulan drift ⌂, Friday, December 09, 2022, 10:49 (476 days ago)

aka MOUs

Qatar provides an excellent model of what this powerful, obscenely rich cohort strives for.

According to this article: Migrant workers make up around 2.5 million of Qatar’s 2.9 million population – amounting to 86 per cent of the population.

The World Cup, which was corruptly bought/awarded to Qatar, has shone some light on how this system works - a small group of elites ruling over a large group of sub-persons.

It's writ large in Qatar, where elites don't even bother to pretend it's anything but a modern day feudal system, but the same thing is happening all around the world - maybe not as openly, but it's happening. A gradual, sometimes seismic (see Covid) shift towards power centralization that involves gobbling up any semblance of influence the sub-persons had or have.

And how did they get all this power/money? By shutting down renewable energy sources and making the world dependent on oil, thereby fucking up the planet.

It's been known for at least 40 years that fossil fuel is bad news, but that doesn't concern the GODS coz they can always use their money to shield themselves from the effects - which are passed onto the sub-human workforce. It's a beautiful system if you're at the top of it.

(note: the term GODS (Global Order of Dominant Sadists) comes from Dan's book, The Refuser)

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by dan, Friday, December 09, 2022, 19:02 (475 days ago) @ dulan drift

According to this article: Migrant workers make up around 2.5 million of Qatar’s 2.9 million population – amounting to 86 per cent of the population.

That's an astounding and profoundly disturbing statistic.

And how did they get all this power/money? By shutting down renewable energy sources and making the world dependent on oil, thereby fucking up the planet.

It's been known for at least 40 years that fossil fuel is bad news, but that doesn't concern the GODS coz they can always use their money to shield themselves from the effects - which are passed onto the sub-human workforce. It's a beautiful system if you're at the top of it.

Here's a related statistic. The US Department of Defense is the largest employer in the world. (1, 2, 3).

But this doesn't take into account all the jobs that the DoD pays for through contracts, the number of which is enormous.

So, the biggest employer is not related to health, social welfare, education, the environment, or anything purely positive, it's for the Department of Defense, what used to be called the Department of War, or the War Department, until it was reorganized under the new name DoD after WWII.

The US economy is essentially one of war, oh, I'm sorry, defense.

If you live in the US or are a US citizen, you are paying into the DoD no matter what you think or believe. It's inescapable. Everybody, even the homeless, is contributing to the DoD simply by being alive.

But that's not all. Everybody else on the planet is too in one form or another. Literally the only way a person could not be supporting the US DoD would be to go entirely 100% off grid and buy nothing nor use currency in any way.

The reason is that the US DoD is intricately entwined and married to the power structures of all other countries, so if you're using money, some of that is somehow finding its way to the DoD.

And the reason for that is that gangs run the countries.

How about what's happening in Haiti? Violent Gangs Control About 60% of Haiti Capital Port-au-Prince, UN Aid Chief Says Well, they're only considered violent gangs because they're not the recognized government of Haiti. Once they control 100% of the capital and install a new government, well then they're just dandy. Right?

So the US is the biggest gang with the biggest baseball bat, the DoD. And IT supports those fucktards in Qatar, because IT wants oil because making people dependent on oil allows you to control them.

The machine is in place and it works for those at the top, and therefore, it won't change. It will never change until it's worth it to those at the top, until it INCREASES THEIR POWER TO DO SO. To the extent that change makes them vulnerable, it won't happen.

Here's an example of that. China relaxing covid restrictions. This is all very interesting. A few piddly protests and China changes policy? Not a chance. The protests are not why China is changing policy.

China is using the protests to avoid losing face. Omicron started spreading in China like crazy IN SPITE OF it's stupid zero policy. So, clearly their policy was not working. The protests gave them an out. They can now appear to be relaxing policy in response to protests. Now covid will spread like crazy, like it was gearing up to do anyway, and they can blame it on the relaxation of policy, policy that wasn't working, but never mind that.

Then, next time they say listen to us, they can say, see? See what happens when we loosen up our grip?

They're smart. Very fucking smart.

The GODS

by dulan drift ⌂, Saturday, December 10, 2022, 07:01 (475 days ago) @ dan


Here's a related statistic. The US Department of Defense is the largest employer in the world. (1, 2, 3).

The real beauty of the Dept of War is that it's all secret stuff. That's a license for the world's biggest employer to put out any BS they like coz you can say: well, we couldn't possibly tell you the real truth - we need to protect the national interest - to keep you safe ...

Again, it's a mass-scale projection of a false-reality by the GODS - that works - has worked for a very long time - & is incredibly difficult to change.

The GODS

by dan, Saturday, December 10, 2022, 19:18 (474 days ago) @ dulan drift

I'm probably much too drunk to post this now, but fuck it. It's 8PM on a Sat night and I have nothing better to do.

Have you heard of the Gemstone File? You can find a summary of it here.

One thing that stands out in that document is the role of Howard Hughes. For non-Americans, the name Howard Hughes may hold no meaning, but for any American living in the forties or coming of age any time after that until about the mid 70's when he disappeared, he was a big name. Howard Hughes was a very big name.

Look into what happened to Howard Hughes.

Then look into these organizations:

https://www.hrl.com/
Oh, and don't miss their board of directors. Parney is a real hotshot. Here he is at LLNL. Nothing against the guy. I'm sure I'd get along with him great. It just demonstrates the revolving door of govt. and industry.

Oh, wait, and then there's this one: https://www.hhmi.org/

Here's the thing. Nobody hears about these groups or individuals. HHMI is fronting as a non-profit, save the world organization, but if you read the documentation, they get the patents on all research.

These are the GODS at work. And why in the fuck are they still using HH's name? It's all very weird.

Oh, and with regards to the Gemstone File and how it might relate to HRL Labs, there's this: https://www.hrl.com/about/laser

If one were looking for a rabbit hole, it wouldn't be hard to find.

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by dan, Saturday, December 10, 2022, 19:21 (474 days ago) @ dan

To put the Gemstone File in context, you have to turn to Mae Brussel

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by dulan drift ⌂, Monday, December 12, 2022, 09:17 (473 days ago) @ dan

Read (most of) the Gemstone files summary - of course it would take a lot more reading to get a fix on the veracity, but intuitively, it sounds plausible. In general terms, there are a few things we know for sure:

1. MOUs do exist. They wake up in nice beds every day, have a good breakfast, then go to work to maintain/increase their money/global-power
2. They have zero qualms about projecting whoppers to the masses
3. They have the media/govt infrastructure to pull these whoppers off
4. They're hiding in plain sight - heck, they've constructed plain sight

A lot of people (all?) operate on the level of projected imagery. The image is more important than the actual truth. If you can successfully project an image of a rich philanthropist who cares about the poor people and wants to 'save-the-planet', then you will bathe in the reflected glory of this image & sleep great at night - regardless of whether its crap or not. The only thing that will disrupt your sleep is exposure of the real truth ... & jail-time. The fact that you have the power to avoid that only adds to your sense of self-worth. You're not wracked by a guilty conscience in the slightest - you tell yourself that's just the way of the world - if you want to be successful in that world, this is what you need to do. I had the balls to do it - the rest are a bunch of losers.

The Onassis example provides a good model for the GODS:

Mega-wealthy king-pin who has accumulated immense power to match. He uses this money/power to continuously entrench his money/power. Blocks/disappears anyone who threatens that.

A series of concentric circles rippling out from his central position that includes media, deep-state bureaucrats, politicians, professionals (judges, lawyers, accountants, scientists), like-minded corporates, all backed by muscle. In Onassis's case that involved gangsters, but the police-force/military/security forces will do fine if you have that level of control, which MOUs do, at least partially, courtesy of having control of the preceding dudes.

These inner-circles are all deeply invested in the success of the system set up by the king-pin. If that's not enough motivation, which it nearly always is, then there's the serious financial/career repercussions you & your family will face if you step out of line.

Integral to maintaining the status quo of this World Order, in which all these people are vested, is projecting a public show for the masses. That's the day-job for the media, politicians, experts especially. Dan's broadcasts at the MAN captures this perfectly. It's an elaborate, fake reality, that, never-the-less, becomes real. In order to, as Dan put it, increase engagement, various Crises are manufactured, which invariably result in more power flowing to the MOUs.

A simple example of this is the Anthrax attacks. Instigated by top US secret-security scientists at Fort Detrick to create a fake crisis, in order to create public fear, to gain more power/money for vaccines and bioweapons research - & invade Iraq for oil. All of which went to plan perfectly.

As a flow-on of this fake reality, the explosion in funding for bio-weapons directly led to gain-of-function research on viruses - which resulted in Covid - which resulted in another avalanche of power/money flowing into the MOUs who manufactured these crises in the first place.

Wash-rinse-repeat.

The GODS

by dulan drift ⌂, Monday, December 12, 2022, 10:37 (473 days ago) @ dulan drift

Was discussing this topic with another Dan (a name which is absurdly over-represented in my life), he sent me this ...

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The GODS: Fusion and Lasers

by dan, Tuesday, December 13, 2022, 18:28 (471 days ago) @ dan

US scientists set to announce fusion energy breakthrough

This is huge news, potentially very disruptive. I wonder what the push back from the oil industry will be. This is the holy grail of energy. If they can make it work, it's essentially free energy forever. Well, free for the producers that is. We'll pay a premium.

In fact the oil industry may rejoice because it's oil they'll need at first, for decades at least, to get this up and running to a production level. The GODS will make out very well on all levels.

And interesting that lasers are involved. I wonder if synthetic rubies play a role? Maybe Parney Albright would know. After all, this fusion research comes out of Livermore Labs, and he was their director before taking over at HRL (Hughes Research Laboratories)

And the Gemstone File is named after such rubies, but that's a reach, admittedly. And yet, Hughes. Rubies. Lasers. They're all very much a part of our lives right now. We'll here much in the coming weeks about fusion, but less about the lasers and HRL and Livermore, the forces behind it.

This Parney character has an amazing biography for somebody that nobody has ever heard of. If the earth were to end and only a few thousand people could be lifted to safety, I bet he'd be on the vessel.

Dr. Parney Albright is president and CEO of HRL Laboratories, LLC. Dr. Albright joined HRL in 2014 after serving as director and associated director at large, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, and senior advisor, Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity (IARPA), on assignment under an Interpersonal Agreement (IPA), where he supported IARPA as well as ODNI senior leadership on a variety of issues.

Before he joined LLNL, Dr. Albright served from August 2005 to November 2009 as president and vice chairman of the board of Civitas Group, LLC. He led the analytic team in support of the first Quadrennial Homeland Security Review, and in addition, led the development and publication of a comprehensive Biodefense Net Assessment under DHS sponsorship.

In October 2003, Dr. Albright was confirmed by the Senate as assistant secretary of homeland security in the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). He served in that position until July 2005. His responsibilities included developing the multi-year strategic planning guidance and budget execution for the complete portfolio of programs comprising the Science and Technology Directorate. Dr. Albright served as principal scientific advisor to the secretary of homeland security on issues associated with science, technology, and the threat of biological, nuclear, and chemical terrorism. On these issues he served as the department’s primary representative to other U.S. government agencies, the Homeland Security Council, the National Security Council, the Office of Science and Technology Policy, and foreign governments.

Between January 2002 and the startup of the DHS, Dr. Albright concurrently held the positions of senior director for research and development in the Office of Homeland Security and assistant director for homeland and national security within the Office of Science and Technology Policy. He was the lead official within the White House responsible for providing advice to the Executive Office of the President on science and technology issues surrounding homeland security, and on the threat of biological, nuclear, and chemical terrorism. In July 2002, he was asked to lead the planning for the Chemical, Biological, Radiological, and Nuclear Directorate of the proposed Department of Homeland Security; this later evolved into the Science and Technology Directorate.

Between 1999 and being asked to serve in the White House after the events of Sept. 11, 2001, Dr. Albright worked in the Advanced Technology Office at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). While there he developed and managed programs associated with special operations, intelligence collection, molecular biology, communications, and maritime operations.

More here.

And here.

The GODS: Fusion and Lasers

by dan, Tuesday, December 13, 2022, 19:14 (471 days ago) @ dan

The rabbit hole....

In reading about our friend Parney, I came across this tidbit:

Before he joined LLNL, Dr. Albright served from August 2005 to November 2009 as president and vice chairman of the board of Civitas Group, LLC. He led the analytic team in support of the first Quadrennial Homeland Security Review, and in addition, led the development and publication of a comprehensive Biodefense Net Assessment under DHS sponsorship.

So who or what is the Civitas Group, LLC? Good question. They don't seem to have a website, but they used to, http://www.civitasgroup.com/. That domain is now for sale, but their old site can be found on the Wayback machine.

There's also this page that documents the origins of Civitas. From that page:

Civitas Group, LLC, a "new consulting firm that will offer a full range of advisory services to private sector and government clients in the homeland security field," was launched on July 17, 2003. "Civitas is a joint venture between Stonebridge International LLC and BKSH & Associates, a WPP operating company. ... Civitas will offer a spectrum of services including strategic business guidance, facilitation of business partnerships, issue monitoring, executive recruitment, advocacy as well as government and corporate marketing and procurement assistance. ... Civitas also has established a strategic partnership with Good Harbor Consulting, LLC." [1]

Here is the stonebridge site: http://www.stonebridge-international.com/
But it's on the way back machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20060203034302/http://www.stonebridge-international.com/

Here is the good harbor site: https://www.goodharbor.net/index.html
But here it is on the way back machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20040402064202/http://www.goodharbor.net/index.html

These are not fly-by-night people. They tell presidents what to do and watch over the development of world changing technologies. So why are their websites ghosts?

It appears BKSH has been merged into https://bcw-global.com/, which looks like a connected rabbit hole of its own.

The point is, nobody has heard of these people or organizations, but these are the forces ruling the world. They're too smart to be in the limelight. But the politicians work for them, not us.

The GODS: Fusion and Lasers

by dulan drift ⌂, Wednesday, December 14, 2022, 06:16 (471 days ago) @ dan

This is the core problem with these deep-state, mega-funded scio-security organizations like USAMRIID (Fort Detrick), NIAID, DAPRA, IAPRA etc - they quietly amass empires over decades with no accountability - it's classified. Parney Albright would appear to be major player in that field. Fauci is a classic example, so is David Franz who's had his finger in everything from Anthrax to Covid, so is Linfa Wang, who as a Chinese citizen, somehow came to run Australia's biodefense lab for CSIRO, so are all the Proximal Origin authors.

Their positions within these organizations are impregnable. If they do get up to no good, then it's considered to be not in the country's national interest to expose it coz it will weaken public trust in our key institutions. How are we going to convince the public to keep paying for these programs/people if they find out they're being continually screwed by them?

Meanwhile, within this secret, unaccountable world, there's always the temptation to manufacture a crisis to reinforce/increase funding.

One of the main Qs to come out of Covid for me is: How much of this secret bio-security deep-state is really necessary?

None of it, so far as i can see. It causes nothing but trouble. The so-called threats are nothing more than projected BS from the GODS. The only bio-weapons events since WW2 have either been staged by US scientists (Anthrax mailings), perpetrated by US scientists (Cuba/possibly Korea/Ebola 2014), or been the result of lab-leaks (Covid/Russian Anthrax leak).

The GODS: Tale of the Tape

by dulan drift ⌂, Wednesday, December 14, 2022, 17:37 (470 days ago) @ dulan drift

How many GODS do you think there are on earth? Aka: the known universe

I'm thinking somewhere in the several thousands - that's a vague guess.

We'd need to define what qualifies you as a GOD to answer it

Let's say Onassis was one, for example, Murdoch, of course, those WW2 Winner-types - then you've got your modern day GODS - your Zuckerbergs, Musks, Xi Jin-pings, Putins, your Gateses, the Bushes & so on - these are the out there GODs - the vaudeville guys ...

But then there are the Unidentified Flying MOUs (UFMOUs). They're still hiding in super plain sight, you can pretty much bank on it - it' not some Mr Powerful Dasatardlies meeting in a dimly lit underground office - they've for sure got those, in case of an emergency, but it's not where they do business day-to-day - it's Dan's Dr Parney Albright-types, heads of powerful deep-state orgs for long periods of time ... They avoid the limelight - don’t avoid the powerlight, though, they live for it. Wake up each day knowing that.

There are a lot of those guys around. Not a lot, not milions of 'em - thousands - i'd be surprised if it broke 10k. Under 5 more likely. Maybe as low as 2 or 3.

The tier effect. Where are the cut-offs for the tiers? You don't rule the known universe by yourself - you need a large, powerful org equipped with the latest tech, over which you have control, which ripples out in terms of executive to enforcement to compliance levels.

To define a true GOD, the only slightly tricky bit is the cut off point between first to second tiers. Second tier, you're still going to be a very influential dude, but not a GOD. What are your thoughts on that, Dan, how to break that down?

Pretty much exclusively male.

Loads of secret society/insider stuff. The Secret Lower Truth. In fact, that's normal life. Every action is justified according to this closed-society creed.

Concerned with controlling Culture above all else (?) Culture is the dynamic medium through which the GODS' will is made manifest to the masses.

The GODS: Tale of the Tape

by dan, Wednesday, December 14, 2022, 18:57 (470 days ago) @ dulan drift

How many GODS do you think there are on earth? Aka: the known universe

I'm thinking somewhere in the several thousands - that's a vague guess.

Yeah, ballpark, true GODS, several thousand. Under six figures anyway.

We'd need to define what qualifies you as a GOD to answer it

Indeed. I think it would be a combination of tribal membership through history and membership through necessity. Honestly, I'm not sure that people like Musk or Gates would make the cut ultimately, if push came to shove and choices had to be made. These Parney types are the ones calling the shots, them and the bankers. Musk and Gates and that Amazon jackass are distractions. They'd all get tossed under the bus by the GODS in a heartbeat.

But then there are the Unidentified Flying MOUs (UFMOUs). They're still hiding in super plain sight, you can pretty much bank on it - it' not some Mr Powerful Dasatardlies meeting in a dimly lit underground office - they've for sure got those, in case of an emergency, but it's not where they do business day-to-day - it's Dan's Dr Parney Albright-types, heads of powerful deep-state orgs for long periods of time ... They avoid the limelight - don’t avoid the powerlight, though, they live for it. Wake up each day knowing that.

Yep. They can really play the game and go to lunch downtown with nobody knowing who they are. Now that's freedom and control rolled into one nice jelly donut.

There are a lot of those guys around. Not a lot, not milions of 'em - thousands - i'd be surprised if it broke 10k. Under 5 more likely. Maybe as low as 2 or 3.

The tier effect. Where are the cut-offs for the tiers? You don't rule the known universe by yourself - you need a large, powerful org equipped with the latest tech, over which you have control, which ripples out in terms of executive to enforcement to compliance levels.

Yeah, the tiers do exist I suspect. I think there must be at least, say, eight tiers. I'm guessing Musk and Gates are on Tier 3 and they sometimes rub shoulders with Tier 2 types. Tiers 5-7 included millions of people, maybe tens of millions worldwide. These are people who think they're special when they're entirely expendable. They're nothing. These are people who have access to Top Secret documents and live in expensive middle class homes and have two week vacations. They're everywhere. But they think they've got a shot at being a GODS or at least being looked on favorably by one, when in fact no GODS even knows their name. But, they do the GODS' handywork. They run their errands, pick up their laundry, and hire people to kill other people.

Then there are a couple bottom tiers that don't really count. Their like the adjunct teacher of the GODS university. They're the Christmas hire in the GODS Macy's. They're the seasonal employee of the GODS traveling circus. But, again, they're doing the GODS' work, and the only difference between them and everybody else, everybody else who is also doing the GODS work, is that they are aware of it and so feel special while the rest of us aren't aware that we're actually working for the GODS.

To define a true GOD, the only slightly tricky bit is the cut off point between first to second tiers. Second tier, you're still going to be a very influential dude, but not a GOD. What are your thoughts on that, Dan, how to break that down?

Pretty much exclusively male.

Loads of secret society/insider stuff. The Secret Lower Truth. In fact, that's normal life. Every action is justified according to this closed-society creed.

Concerned with controlling Culture above all else (?) Culture is the dynamic medium through which the GODS' will is made manifest to the masses.

I think you nailed it. I think the cutoff between Tiers 1 and 2 is mostly cultural and historical. I don't think you can buy your way into it. Of course. The GODS have to protect their power, and they can only do that by protecting membership, and that has to be done through blood, culture, anything but mere money. The GODS print money.

Granted, we're all more closely related than we think. I read somewhere that Clinton and Bush are something like 6th cousins. Of course. Go back far enough, Mike, and I'm sure you and I can find a common ancestor.

But I think it is a combination of blood and something more than money or fame. Take any one of these guys we've identified (those in the shadows) and trace their family back. What do we find? It doesn't mean they're all from royalty. On the contrary. But I be a significant number have connections going back at least three or four generations, and in most cases many more than that. And the big GODS. the top, say, 500?

Interestingly, the Communist revolution in both Russian and China may serve as examples of attempts to dethrone the GODS, but then you could say the same about France and the US. And what happened? The deep roots just resprouted

The GODS: Tale of the Tape

by dan, Wednesday, December 14, 2022, 19:13 (470 days ago) @ dan

I think the Parney crowd is in Tier 2. My reasoning is that we know about them. Tier 1 doesn't want to be known about. Notice how those Parney related sites went down pretty quickly and how difficult it is to find out about who is running the show of some of these organizations. The point is, the Parney types have to go to work and play a role. They're experts, no doubt, but they're also the front for Tier 1 GODS who want to remain entirely anonymous.

If I had unlimited power and money, the last thing I would want would be for people to know that about me. I'd want to remain anonymous.

The GODS: Tale of the Tape

by dulan drift ⌂, Sunday, December 25, 2022, 10:39 (460 days ago) @ dan

Excellent analysis. That's solid reference material for breaking down the structure.

So, to name names, can give a/some benchmark tier-one GODS?


What role (if any) do you see academic institutions playing?

From researching Jeremy Farrar, a lot of roads led to Oxford - my sense was, without fully-exploring it, that there were higher-ups than Farrar calling the shots. Oxford has a lot of ingredients that you mentioned - legacy - influence network - a desire to impact world-culture - plain-sight but not lime-light.

Someone who is well known, though rarely photographed, is Rupert Murdoch. I get that your Musks & Zuckerbergs may not qualify as tier-oners, but Murdoch would have to be in there, right?

The GODS: Tale of the Tape

by dan, Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 19:59 (457 days ago) @ dulan drift

Someone who is well known, though rarely photographed, is Rupert Murdoch. I get that your Musks & Zuckerbergs may not qualify as tier-oners, but Murdoch would have to be in there, right?

Yeah, Murdoch may be on the fringe indeed. I go back to Kennedy. Who killed him? And why? I think that's the most recent, modern smoking gun to the GODS. Look at who took immediate political control after he was gone, Johnson, eventually Gerald Ford, who was on the commission. Ford alwaya struck me as someone who definitely did not want to be in the spotlight, but he had to play his role.

Onassis. Why did Jackie marry that slob after her husband was shot? He was one.

Howard Hughes brushed shoulders with them and pissed them off somehow so was taken out.

It's the mob. The GODS are the mob, the mafia, the lead criminals. The fat at the top of the soup bowl.

So the question is, who has taken the place of Onassis? Ford? Who is telling Murdoch what to publish?

The GODS: Tale of the Tape

by dulan drift ⌂, Thursday, December 29, 2022, 17:43 (455 days ago) @ dan

I go back to Kennedy. Who killed him? And why? I think that's the most recent, modern smoking gun to the GODS. Look at who took immediate political control after he was gone, Johnson, eventually Gerald Ford, who was on the commission. Ford alwaya struck me as someone who definitely did not want to be in the spotlight, but he had to play his role.

Onassis. Why did Jackie marry that slob after her husband was shot? He was one.

Howard Hughes brushed shoulders with them and pissed them off somehow so was taken out.

It's the mob. The GODS are the mob, the mafia, the lead criminals. The fat at the top of the soup bowl.


Good pantheon list for starters: Johnson, Ford, Onassis - Hughes as the fallen figure in an ancient Greek-style outcasting

We can assume Asia has its own GODS - you mentioned that the Russian/Chinese revolutions were likely disruptions of the GODS system - if you want to be a GODS you got kill one - is that how it works?

They didn't waste any time getting the legacy-princeling thing going, Xi Jinping's father being a famous revolutionary figure.

So the question is, who has taken the place of Onassis? Ford? Who is telling Murdoch what to publish?

Someone. We can safely say that. It seems like an impenetrable system-fog, but there are people with names carrying on the tradition of the Kennedy-killings mega-moves - with the infrastructure to succeed.

As a side thought:

Are there GODS Departments?

Which would suggest a hierarchy within the GODS - or are department heads already second-tier?

For example, is there a GODS of Sports?

As GODS, you’d know all about opium of the masses, Sport is a good one, you’d need a good man (all GODS are men, right?) in that position.

Other Departments would include Education, Money, Entertainment, Food, Information, Industry, Technology, Health, Security - for sure a lot of others - guess all the normal departments that govs have ...

The GODS: Tale of the Tape

by dulan drift ⌂, Thursday, December 29, 2022, 18:23 (455 days ago) @ dulan drift

Getting the Internal Error message again on last post. Try breaking it up post last paragraph here...


THE Future Department might be the big one. This is where we're taking human reality - this is how we do it...

If i'm that Future Department dude, i'm thinking AI - as far forward as it's possible to think. That AI shit is not gonna die out as a passing fade... 20-30 years time we're looking at a Black Mirror scenario - who are the GODS across that?

In fact, is AI a GODS entity already - or still a corrupted medium? It does hold the potential to overthrow the GODS. If AI Thought becomes sentient, it can become unclouded, potentially. It could easily destroy its current manipulators that's for sure ...

The GODS: Tale of the Tape

by dan, Thursday, December 29, 2022, 20:08 (455 days ago) @ dulan drift

Just a technical note on these server error messages --

I've tried to tweak some settings on the server. There's a timeout setting that I've increased, hopefully properly and without breaking anything. I'm also increased a memory limit, though I don't think that's it because I haven't encountered this problem. It could still just be a communication error.

I'll keep working on it. If the site goes down, you know I did something wrong! If it does work for the forum, I'll have to make the same changes on dulandrift.formosahut.com. I believe you mentioned you were getting a similar error on that domain.

Anyway, let me know if anything changes for better or worse.

The GODS: Tale of the Tape

by dan, Thursday, December 29, 2022, 20:16 (455 days ago) @ dulan drift

If i'm that Future Department dude, i'm thinking AI - as far forward as it's possible to think. That AI shit is not gonna die out as a passing fade... 20-30 years time we're looking at a Black Mirror scenario - who are the GODS across that?

In fact, is AI a GODS entity already - or still a corrupted medium? It does hold the potential to overthrow the GODS. If AI Thought becomes sentient, it can become unclouded, potentially. It could easily destroy its current manipulators that's for sure ...

Yeah, AI is seeping out our lives. We're frogs in the AI pot. It's impacting all areas of our lives already, but one that has been pretty evident in recent months is warfare, and here I'm thinking of autonomous machines I guess, and I think those would fall under the AI umbrella.

Consider how normal drones are now in warfare. We don't even think about it. Yes, there are people piloting them remotely (I think?), but I assume the can also be truly autonomous. We're also seeing in increase in policing robots.

Self driving cars are now on the roads, driverless trucks are coming, and there's talk of pilotless passenger planes.

We recently went on a short trip that involved a domestic flight, and in the entire process of ticketing, checking bags, etc. we did not once have to deal with a human. The only time we interacted with an airline employee was when we were boarding and scanning our boarding passes, and even then they were just standing there.

I know AI is much more than that, but these are some of the manifestations that are in your face, so to speak.

The GODS: Tale of the Tape

by dan, Thursday, December 29, 2022, 20:28 (455 days ago) @ dulan drift

We can assume Asia has its own GODS - you mentioned that the Russian/Chinese revolutions were likely disruptions of the GODS system - if you want to be a GODS you got kill one - is that how it works?

Yeah, I think it is!

As a side thought:

Are there GODS Departments?

Which would suggest a hierarchy within the GODS - or are department heads already second-tier?

For example, is there a GODS of Sports?

As GODS, you’d know all about opium of the masses, Sport is a good one, you’d need a good man (all GODS are men, right?) in that position.

Other Departments would include Education, Money, Entertainment, Food, Information, Industry, Technology, Health, Security - for sure a lot of others - guess all the normal departments that govs have ...

Yeah, I think there is some sort of hierarchy, and ultimately we're all part of it, just as we're all part of the economy, it's that most of us won't get a ticket to the getaway ship when the world's about to implode!

The GODS: Tale of the Tape

by dulan drift ⌂, Saturday, December 31, 2022, 18:32 (453 days ago) @ dan

Speaking of usurpation of the GODS, re the Russian/Chinese Revolutions - one historical entrail of western human civilization i've followed back goes something like this:

THE Golden Age
: free-thought philosophy - Socrates-Plato-Aristotle - a bunch more on either side of those dudes - opening up, then pushing the envelope of human consciousness ...

THE Church: introduced BC/AD Time in 525 BC (usurping Roman Time), then banned philosophy couple of decades later, due to self-described mission of: global-mind-control based on THE Blessed Virgin ... THE Saviour

THE Science: Wrested partial control from THE Church in recent times - but maintained THE ban on philosophy (new-normal-style ban - costs double to study philosophy in Aus coz it's considered useless, using economic rationalism), proceeded to act same as THE Church in terms of telling whoppers, using power to clamp down on basic truths, freedoms

Not to say THE Church doesn't still wield serious global power today, it does, but THE Science is an ascendant player in THE global-group-think GODS stakes

In the end, as a GODS, it's all about projecting your desired image of reality ...via culture

The GODS: Tale of the Tape

by dulan drift ⌂, Tuesday, January 03, 2023, 16:49 (451 days ago) @ dulan drift

Dan: Yeah, Murdoch may be on the fringe indeed. I go back to Kennedy. Who killed him? And why? I think that's the most recent, modern smoking gun to the GODS. .. So the question is, who has taken the place of Onassis? Ford? Who is telling Murdoch what to publish?


Reflecting, i've come to think this is the road-map question to the whole thing.

What went down with JFK was a Rubicon Crossing for Intelligence Agencies acting domestically.

A self-decided right to fake reality to the people paying your wages. The Great Unmooring from normal truth. There's no way back from that - which explains a lot of subsequent behaviour...

Who is telling Murdoch, a seemingly super-powerful guy, what to publish?

Who has taken the place of Onassis?

What we know:

It's real people with names, hiding in plain-sight, though maybe not lime-light (Onassis wasn't limelight-shy). Likely a leader of an academic institution, a bureaucratic body, or an oligarch (such as Onassis).

Think i might revise my amount of GODS down a bit. Under 1000?

The GODS: George Pell

by dulan drift ⌂, Wednesday, January 11, 2023, 13:30 (443 days ago) @ dulan drift

George Pell died today - due to a complication from a hip-replacement. Initially i assumed it was a bacteria infection, but it was due to the anesthetic injection you get to go-under for the operation - which caused heart-failure.

I doubt Archbishop George Pell was a GODS, but he was connected to THE GODS as a tier 2 or 3er. As the highest representative of the Catholic Church in Australia, he rose through Catholic ranks to Head of Vatican Finances - think about that ...

He became even more famous though for his integral involvement in the coal-face of child sexual abuse.

Convicted of sexually abusing two alter boys by a jury of his peers (haha), he quickly had that decision overturned on appeal by his real-peers, a panel of judges.

But even if you put that aside, there's no doubting whatsoever his major-role in covering-up institutionalized child-sexual-abuse in THE Church. This guy made it his mission-in-life to use his immense power to block victims from seeking redress whilst covering-up the evidence.

It's well documented (Royal Commission) that he knew of abuse occurring and instigated the shuffling of offenders around from parish to parish as complaints surfaced in order to keep it within THE Church.

Of course, not much comes out of the blue - he started his Catholic-priestly-training-life as housemates/friends with Australia's most notorious pedophile, Gerald Ridsdale (convicted of 71 separate offences). This cozy relationship blossomed at the notorious Ballarat diocese, breeding ground of dozens of clergy pedos. I don't know what the world-record is, but it's Olympic standard, i'm sure.

Pell & Ridsdale remained mates throughout Ridsdale's offending. While Ridsdale was indulging his wolf-in-charge-of-lambs sexual fantasies - with no limits (there were whole classes he was convicted of abusing individually as he was shuffled through several schools) - Pell's star/power addiction, was dramatically ascending. Priest/housemates with Ridsdale - Ballarat Bishop - Archbishop - Cardinal*...

(*like a Minister in globogov.con terms for THE Vatican) - self-confessed global mind-control addicts)

As complaints arose (remembering that with child-sexual-abuse, actual complaints are the-tip of the iceberg), Pell used his police contacts to close down investigations, obfuscate.

Investigators likened THE Church's (with Pell in charge's) response to passivist protesters who stage a sit-down - not violently resisting as such - but any info you want you'll have to drag away as dead-weights.

As a testament to their life-long friendship, Pell subsequently accompanied Ridsdale to court & provided good-character references for him during his trial. Exactly as the THE Church's lawyers suggested - according to Pell.

However, his crowning achievement was to single-handedly concoct the so-called Ellis Defence, which argued (somehow successfully- see connections to his real peers) that THE Church was not a legal entity, therefore not liable for any of the high-thousands of sexual abuses committed undercover of THE Church in Australia.

Which was:

  • systemically entrenched over decades
  • an open-secret - known to be wrong


The worst excesses occurred under Pell's watch. Still, THE High Court judges agreed, THE Church, which actively covered-up abuse over decades, thereby enabling offenders free-license, was deemed not accountable.

Thanks to John Ellis, fucking hero, who kept persisting with his case, this ruling was recently overturned. But of course way too late for 90% of victims who had their lives de-railed, were forced to ultimately settle for a pittance - or killed themselves - even better if you're THE Church.

The great failing of our legal system, to this day, is that covering-up certain crimes by elites is not considered a crime.

Maybe one day some scientists will be held accountable for Covid, sacrificial-lamb-style - actually i doubt they will but it's an outside chance - but for sure none of those who covered it up will ever be charged with anything. They are guilty of mass-manslaughter, plain & simple, but they can rest assured that they will never have to face justice. And knowing that, they can feel absolutely free to do the same thing again next time.

It's the same with child-abuse by THE Church. Yes, some individual perps have been charged & jailed, but none of those who enabled, then fought to cover up these crimes, have ever served a single day in jail. None. In the whole world.

How is that possible? In Pell's case the answer is simple. Powerful people have always had his back. The guy is a real-life monster basically, but upon his passing we had a succession of Prime Ministers & Ministers singing-his-praises - with no mention of the horrific crimes he presided over.

Prime Minister Albanese: For many people, particularly of the Catholic faith, this will be a difficult day and I express my condolences to all those who are mourning today. I expressed my condolences to Archbishop Fisher on behalf of the government.

Classic Alba-sleazy talk. Where are your condolences with those who were victims of Pell's the-horror reign? He does the same with China.

ex-PM Abbott: Australia has lost a great son and the church has lost a great leader. Like everyone who knew him I feel a deep sense of loss but am confident that his reputation will grow and grow and that he will become an inspiration for the ages.

Hopefully Aussie PM Abbott's confidence is misplaced & elites won't be inspired to cover up sexual abuse for the ages.

Joe Hockey, ex-minister, ex ambassador to US (THE plum-job for ex-politicians): He was a man of deep faith and great integrity. He was blessed with fortitude, courage, determination (tautologies) and intellect. He was proudly Australian.

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie!

The fact that so many powerful people in Australia are prepared to publicly laud this Kurtz-esque creep, is, yet another, testimony to how rotten the ruling class has become - how emboldened THE Elites are to re-write reality in their own image.

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Ridsdale & his Pell

The GODS: George Pell

by dan, Saturday, January 14, 2023, 14:34 (440 days ago) @ dulan drift

Yes, I remember this guy and the case. You brought up in another post something along the lines of organizations being GODS, correct me if I'm wrong, and I think the Catholic Church certainly fits that definition. The whole sex abuse history of THE Church is an in-your-face example of how the powerful can literally fuck you up the ass, pat you on the head, and get away with it.

However, his crowning achievement was to single-handedly concoct the so-called Ellis Defence, which argued (somehow successfully- see connections to his elite peers) that THE Church was not a legal entity, therefore not liable for any of the sexual abuses committed within the institution.

The Ellis Defence seems like the flipside of the US law that allows corporations to be treated as people.

The great failing of our legal system, to this day, is that covering-up certain crimes by elites is not considered a crime. Maybe one day some scientists will be held accountable for Covid - actually i doubt they will but it's an outside chance - but for sure none of those who covered it up will ever be charged with anything. They are guilty of mass-manslaughter, plain & simple, but they can rest assured that they will never have to face justice. And knowing that, they can feel absolutely free to do the same thing next time.

This is one of the three reasons I'm against the death penalty. It will never be handed out fairly. If Bob Nobody walks into a store, shoots the clerk and steals $10, he may well be executed, particularly if he's black. If Trump or Biden does the exact same thing, they won't, obviously. End of argument.

But more to your point, you're right, those at the top of the pecking order in elite institutions, be they academic, scientific, political, corporate, etc., are untouchable. They literally make the rules. Democracy and representational government have become a bad joke.

The GODS: Security Orgs

by dulan drift ⌂, Thursday, January 26, 2023, 08:50 (428 days ago) @ dan

Exploring the 'Organization as a GODS' angle, security organizations tick all the boxes. It's important to remember that although they seem like faceless organizations, machine-like even, with no-one to hold accountable exactly, there are still real people calling the shots. They're not held accountable, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. They exist fine.

Researching/writing The Covid Atrocity, i delved into several of the main characters involved in:
engineering the virus
releasing it upon the public (on purpose or accidentally)
orchestrating the closed-ranks cover-up

They were all people with names, hiding in the plain-sight of Expert World.

It also became apparent that security people played a major part in the above three events. A lot of cross-over into security world - that way of thinking. The thing about that thinking, you get so far out there, there's no coming back. The crimes you've committed are too heinous. But if you're good enough, you never have to worry about being caught. It's all an image world game. Doesn't matter what you've done, the truth doesn't matter. Only thing that matters is you continue to project your image positively ... If you do that, you win, you feel happy, knowing you're a big-winner in the great game of life. So big you control it.

Apart from all the usual state security orgs, there are:
a bunch of private ones (such as UK firm Hakluyt, involved in the Bo Xilai happenings) - compiled of top ex-govt security people
Global Health Security orgs -including B&M Gates Wellcome Trust/Oxford which present an image as global health security research operations.

The common denominator is that they all claim an inalienable right to operate in secret &/or lie about their operations in the name of some secret goal that the public are not privy to - despite funding most of their work. The three groups are, not surprisingly, interconnected operationally - Wellcome for example has heads of private security orgs (Hakluyt) as well as an ex-MI5 head on its board.

They also all operate as deep-state power hubs beyond the reach of democracy or accountability & have tightly controlled lines of succession. Those in the top jobs will typically be in power their entire working lives.

Bottom-line: if you operate as a security org higher-up, you do whatever the fuck you want with no oversight, no personal repercussions - no bad ones anyway - plenty of good ones.

We've discussed before about the public occasionally being thrown a sacrificial lamb like Bruce Ivins (Anthrax - 7 yrs after the event following a long, expensive cover-up operation by Robert Mueller/FBI) or Oswald - i don't think there's ever been an example of a security org person ever being charged with anything in terms of covering-up. Far more likely to be charged with uncovering, like poor old Snowden - but that was only coz he was a whistle-blower. That's key, security players see it as their job to cover-up information/spread disinformation. That's why it's called secret security

That kind of set-up is a guaranteed way to breed an entrenched culture of corruption. Especially when you have the power to ensure that it stays that way.

Which leaves us with immensely powerful organizations actively shaping world reality - derailing it in fact - hijacking it & replacing it with a fake reality - a flat-earth reality - with no-one left to stop them.

The only way out of this mess is a drastic reformation of security orgs. How much of the work they do really needs to be secret? I would argue almost none of it. It's not valid to argue, as such people do, in the cases of the Kennedy assassination or Covid, that oh, we can't tell the real truth coz that would be too de-stabilizing for world-order (which we control)!

The philosophers will tell you a self-appointed secret license to lie does not hold up logically as a guiding principle. Whatever you do after that, doesn't matter, if your premise is wrong, it's fruit of the poison tree.

But i can't see such an overhaul ever happening. These groups (GODS) have simply become too powerful to let that happen. 100% certain they will never do it themselves & they have the power to crush whoever might try to hold these influence empire people accountable.

That only leaves a kind of mass-DIY de-centralization movement. Where more & more people choose to opt out - turn their backs on the system.

This is the system's weak-point - it relies on the compliance of the masses. It's a kind of paradox - even as it de-influences the individual, it still needs all these individuals in order to maintain its own influence/established order. If that can be eroded over time, then that represents our best shot of breaking free of this tyranny.

The GODS: Security Orgs

by dan, Sunday, January 29, 2023, 15:01 (425 days ago) @ dulan drift

Excellent post, and I think you've effectively defined what the GODS really are, which are organizations. Those individuals at the top of the pecking order do get their 15 minutes of fame in the GODS club, but ultimately the structure is organizational, not one of individuals.

As associated individuals die off, their heirs fill their ranks, along with any genetic newcomers that manage to battle their way into the club. Hence the persistence of class culture even in places that were meant to do away with it like the US.

Apart from all the usual state security orgs, there are: a bunch of private ones (such as UK firm Hakluyt, involved in the Bo Xilai happenings) - compiled of top ex-govt security people

Global Health Security orgs -including B&M Gates Wellcome Trust/Oxford which present an image as global health security research operations.

That Hakluyt firm is sure creepy. Can you imagine how they view the world, people like us, normal people? I wonder what nicknames they have for us. Those not in the loop, not in the club.

The three groups are, not surprisingly, interconnected operationally - Wellcome for example has heads of private security orgs (Hakluyt) as well as an ex-MI5 head on its board.

And this is actually so well acknowledged by the rest of the world that there's a term for it -- the revolving door. And yet, nothing changes.

But i can't see such an overhaul ever happening. These groups (GODS) have simply become too powerful to let that happen. 100% certain they will never do it themselves & they have the power to crush whoever might try to hold these influence empire people accountable.

I agree. It will never change. There is no political solution, just as there is no political solution to racism or greed. Political solutions only work during times of abundance, and even then they usually don't work or they're just a band-aid. I think real change will take some form of evolution, some fundamental shift in human development. But how will that happen? What will drive it? Will it be slow or sudden? And if it's slow, do we have time? Things aren't looking good right now for the survival of the human race. Regardless, you and I won't be around to see any such change.

That only leaves a kind of mass-DIY de-centralization movement. Where more & more people choose to opt out - turn their backs on the system.

This is the system's weak-point - it relies on the compliance of the masses. It's a kind of paradox - even as it de-influences the individual, it still needs all these individuals in order to maintain its own influence/established order. If that can be eroded over time, then that represents our best shot of breaking free of this tyranny.

Agreed, and there is a ray of hope there. Technology is providing the means for normal people to achieve decentralization in some ways, specifically money but also communication and information sharing. But when these organizations are threatened, they have a tried and tested tool.

War.

And when the masses are devastated physically, financially, and emotionally, they're willing to hand total control back to the GODS who, of course, are there to help.

The GODS as Orgs

by dulan drift ⌂, Thursday, February 02, 2023, 08:48 (421 days ago) @ dan

I think you've effectively defined what the GODS really are, which are organizations. Those individuals at the top of the pecking order do get their 15 minutes of fame in the GODS club, but ultimately the structure is organizational, not one of individuals.

As associated individuals die off, their heirs fill their ranks, along with any genetic newcomers that manage to battle their way into the club. Hence the persistence of class culture even in places that were meant to do away with it like the US.

Yeah, we might be getting close to a definition. Which raises an interesting point:

Establishment organizations take on a life of their own.

This is related to an idea i've had for a long time - We didn't invent Thought - Thought invented us. We don't have ownership over Thought. It is something that can exist outside of us - it will inhabit whatever vehicle it finds most suitable for enabling its extension. AI is a great vehicle - better than people. That's where it's heading - but Organizations provide the prototype for this kind of collective, self-sustaining Thought organism.

Although people come & go, the organization remains - an enduring mother-ship. Just as football clubs go on about developing a culture, so do Organizations. The culture, in fact, embodies the power-base of the organization.

The culture of an organization is able to outlive the death of the individuals that make it up - it carries on in perpetuity. Its instinct is to reinforce itself, to extend - same as it is with us, but its advantage is the life-after-death trick. Now, culture can be fine - if you think of the bu-luo system within the Taiwanese indigenous tribes, it offers a set of community-values for personal reference whilst also being something that you can participate in, influence. A two-way street. But it can also become unbalanced. Then it becomes a one-way street - it controls you, but you don't get to influence it back. This is the kind that we're discussing here.

In terms of Orgs as GODS, the organization provides a mind-control system for those people at the top benefiting from the system, whilst also providing cover for those people. An argument you often here from THE Church to explain bad behaviour is well, that's just the way things were done back then - but the fact is the reason they were done that way was because, as the dominant mind-control org, all other ways of doing things were banned. No doubt we will hear the exact same argument from THE Science if they ever get held to account.

The other thing about Orgs is the collective buy-in. This is something we discussed at the beginning of this thread with the tier-arrangement. Apart from those in the top-tier, many others have a vested financial/power interest in maintaining the supremacy of the org. Whether something is true or not, or whether a course of action is right or not, becomes almost irrelevant. The only thing that matters is whether it's good for the entrenchment of the org, because, ultimately, it's the Organization that provides you with the privileged-life-style you enjoy as well as the all-important protection from outsiders who may seek to question your power. Together, this amounts to a powerful group-think, which links back to the idea of The Org (GODS) having a mind of its own - made up of/transcending the individual minds of its members.

None of which is to let the individuals who currently run these orgs of the hook. Although the org supplies a catch-all moral cover for heinous acts, it doesn't make those acts right. Five minutes of honest reflection by those actors would make this obvious. They know what they're doing despite their projected suspension of disbelief. It's for this reason i've always made it a point to name names when looking at the Covid Atrocity.


This thread is an extension/discussion of Dan's The Refuser, so in that light we can see an Organization (let's say THE Science, as an example) as a version of The Algorithm. What we're seeing today, imo, is orgs merging with algorithms to grow even larger, more powerful (a process which i assume was a central tenet of The Refuser). A feeding of the monster that craves control over individual data to expand its influence - by gobbling up the influence of the individuals it controls.

The GODS: George Pell

by dulan drift ⌂, Wednesday, February 01, 2023, 08:55 (422 days ago) @ dan

If it was not already a big enough insult to victims that Pell's life is being celebrated with a grandiose funeral, now the cops are cracking down on anyone wishing to protest this travesty.

Police spokesperson: The NSW Police Force has received a Form 1 for a protest planned for Thursday 2 February in Sydney CBD, however, despite attempted negotiations with organisers, safety concerns associated with their proposed assembly cannot be adequately mitigated without amendments to the proposal.

As such, the Commissioner will apply to the NSW Supreme Court to prohibit the assembly.

(Police) recognise and support the rights of individuals and groups to exercise their rights of free speech and peaceful assembly, however, the first priority is always the safety of the wider community.

The old 'to keep us safe' BS that gets trotted out every single time authorities want to clamp down on basic human rights.

Hard to imagine a more flagrant example of that than the above. As pointed out in the earlier post, Pell continuously used his position of immense power to enable child-sexual abuse then cover it up. Then block victims from seeking compensation through his concoction of the Ellis Defense (arguing THE Church is not a legal entity, therefore not liable). Pell was the integral force in Australia responsible for masterminding all three types of abuses (enabling, covering-up, blocking compensation) against children.

This abuse included the Catholic Ballarat diocese (in which Pell was a leading figure) leaning on police to drop their investigation against Father Day (which they did) and arranging for prolific pedophile, Father Ridsdale, to be shuffled from parish to parish to continue his sexual-abuse spree.

The Royal Commission found, unequivocally, that Pell was aware of rampant abuse & sought to cover it up.

So when the safety of children being sexually abused was on the line, the police, directed by the Ballarat diocese, enabled the abusers. But now, suddenly, when people want to protest this flagrant abuse of power, they're banned from doing so due to the safety of the wider community?

How the fuck does protesting a leading child-sexual abuser/enabler constitute a threat to the safety of the wider community?

I think we know the answer. Anything that may lead to a questioning of the ruling order is a threat to the safety of the elite's power-base.

To date, not one person has been convicted in Australia for the crime of concealment of child sexual abuse - even though there is a specific law defining it as a crime.

We also know why that is. Despite truckloads upon truckloads of evidence that Pell did conceal abuse - if you're a power-elite, the rules don't apply. It's that simple.

It's no coincidence that the media's current target for vilification (in Aus at least) is the growing number of individuals choosing to withdraw from the system & rejecting this gas-lighting by the higher-ups & their farcical laws. At least the media's sensitivity to this movement shows that they recognize it as their major weakness.

ORG GODS

by dulan drift ⌂, Tuesday, February 28, 2023, 12:51 (395 days ago) @ dulan drift

Whist writing a new book on the Conspiracy Theorist vilification phenom, i came across this ORG: AECOM

They were contracted by ASIO (Aus's CIA) to oversee the building of their new HQ. During the building process, in 2013, every possible bit of info you could wish for re the layout/communications/everything was acquired by the CCP.

Typical unaccountable spy org, no details of the hack were officially released - it wouldn't even be known except for whistleblowers. The leak came from one of the companies working on the HQ - there were only three main ones that might have access to the blueprints. Of those three, AECOM seems particularly suss:


Originally an oil company with ties to Saudi Arabia (Ashfield Oil)

Involved in Belt & Road projects galore

Has a HQ in Shanghai

Ripped-off Hurricane Katrina aid

They're all disturbing but the last one reminds me of a point Dan made about never supporting the death penalty coz of the double-standards between rich & poor committing virtually the same crimes but getting different punishments.


The AECOM page is here.

ORG GODS

by dan, Friday, March 03, 2023, 17:33 (391 days ago) @ dulan drift

This makes me wonder to what extent this is all driven by old fashioned money, the buying of intelligence, or rather to what extent is driven by pure ignorance, the result of operational laziness and sloppiness. Of course Chinese are always looking for a way in. The question is, did they buy it or just slip in through a door someone stupidly left open?

CCP ORG GODS

by dulan drift ⌂, Saturday, March 11, 2023, 11:29 (384 days ago) @ dan

CCP is a classic ORG-GOD - this is a good example of how it operates. The focus is on FSM but that's only coz this guy has the guts to talk about it - same thing goes on in Australia - much worse - but everyone shuts their mouth like they're told to. That's the thing about organized crime - it's not visible on the surface - that's why it's called organized.

The Diplomat: David Panuelo, the president of the Federated States of Micronesia (FSM) has written a letter to FSM leaders providing extraordinary details on Beijing’s political warfare and grey zone activity in the country – and outlining a potential agreement to switch FSM’s diplomatic recognition from China to Taiwan.

Letter extracts:

We understand that [China’s choice for ambassador to FSM] Mr. Wu would, upon his arrival, be given the mission of preparing the FSM to shift away from its partnerships with traditional allies such as the U.S., Japan, and Australia. We know that Mr. Wu would expand PRC security activity, awareness, and interest in the FSM… I declined the Ambassador-designate his position…they’re simply awaiting the new President to take power so Mr. Wu can become the Ambassador of China to the FSM

“You can imagine my surprise when I was followed this past July in Fiji during the Pacific Islands Forum by two Chinese men; my further surprise when it was determined that they worked for the Chinese Embassy in Suva; my even further surprise when it was discovered that one of them was a PLA intelligence officer; and my continued surprise when I leaned that I had multiple Cabinet and staff who had met him before, and in the FSM. To be clear: I have had direct threats against my personal safety from PRC officials acting in an official capacity,

[China’s newly appointed Envoy for the Pacific Islands Ambassador Qian Bo] would have been present during the 2nd China-PICS Political Dialogue. That itself is noteworthy insofar as that was the public meeting where the FSM Government found itself represented not by myself or a Cabinet member or even a member of our Foreign Service – indeed not by anyone in our Government at all but, rather, a private citizen names Mr. Duhlen Soumwei. I said to the PRC that we would not have formal representation at the meeting, and the PRC went to the extent of taking one of our citizens and then publicly having that citizen formally represent us. To say it again: China has established a precedent of taking our private citizens in multilateral meetings to formally represent our country without our Government’s awareness or approval thereof.

(CCP sent ocean vessels into the FSM’s Exclusive Economic Zone) whose purpose includes mapping our maritime territory for potential resources. When we sent our own patrol boats to our own Exclusive Economic Zone to check on PRC research vessel activity, the PRC sent a warning for us to stay away.

China’s suggestions in February 2020 (was) that the novel coronavirus wasn’t dangerous and so the FSM should open its borders to Chinese citizens and workers, including the frequent calls to my personal phone number from Ambassador Huang at the time.

On October 14th, 2021, I relayed the final instruction that the FSM will not accept the Chinese vaccines. ‘Let’s be clear,’ I said, ‘Foreign Affairs will prepare a letter to say “no” to the Chinese vaccines. Our answer should be very clear that, while we appreciate the offer, the answer is no because we have more than enough vaccines.

In November, 2021 – after the Secretary of Health and the Secretary of Foreign Affairs and myself had changed cellphone numbers due to incessant calls from Ambassador Huang – the FSM signed an agreement that we accept the Chinese vaccines. We included various stipulations, such as that they were to be used only for citizens of China in the FSM; but that wasn’t what China (cared about). What China wanted was for the FSM to be on the list of countries that they could publicly promote as having accepted their vaccines. China got exactly what it wanted.

One of the reasons that China’s Political Warfare is successful in so many arenas is that we are bribed to be complicit, and bribed to be silent. That’s a heavy word, but it is an accurate description regardless. What else do you call it when an elected official is giving an envelope filled with money after meal at the PRC Embassy or after an inauguration? … What else do you call it when an elected official receives a check for a public project that our National Treasury has no record of and no means of accounting for?

This past October 2022, when Vice President Palik visited Kosrae, he was received by our friends at Da Yang Seafoods. Our friends at Da Yang have a private plane, and they arrived in Kosrae (along with several senior FSM Government officials) on a private plane. Our friends told the Vice President that they can provide him private and personal transportation to anywhere he likes at any time, even Hawaii, for example; he only need ask.

Senior officials and elected officials across the whole of our National and State Governments receive offers of gifts as a means to curry favor. The practical impact of this is that some senior officials and elected officials take actions that are contrary to the FSM‘s national interest, but are consistent with the PRC‘s national interests.

At worst in the short-term, it means we sell our country and our sovereignty for temporary personal benefit. At worst in the long-term, it means we are, ourselves, active participants in allowing a possible war to occur in our region, and very likely our own islands and our neighbors on Guam and Hawaii, where we ourselves will be indirectly responsible for the Micronesian lives lost

Money matters, and If I am to make the argument that our country is the target of Political Warfare so as to prepare our country and region to align ourselves with China prior to their invasion of Taiwan, I must also make the argument that our country can obtain a better deal without China…. I am clearly aware that I must make the argument not only in terms of preventing war and saving lives, but in terms of how we can fill the gap that would occur if we were to turn off the flow of money from China.

In February 2023, I met with the Honorable Joseph Wu, Foreign Minister of Taiwan, to solicit from Taiwan what their potential assistance to the FSM would look like if we switch diplomatic relations to supporting them instead of China, and what benefits we can get if we don’t switch relations formally but do explore initializing a Taipei Economic & Cultural Representative Office (TECRO)…

I was transparent with Foreign Minister Wu; we project we need an injection of approximately $50,000,000 to meet our future needs. We can and will receive this, over a three-year period, if and when we establish diplomatic relations with Taiwan. Meanwhile, we will also receive an annual $15,000,000 assistance package which we could divide however we wish (meaning, by extension, we could also simply send this assistance directly to our FSM States like we do with assistance from the Compact of Free Association).

Additionally, Taiwan assures me that they will simply ‘pick-up’ any and all projects that China is currently undertaking…using Micronesian labor and Micronesian businesses, unlike China, inclusive of job training for laborers.

On top of all the financial assistance, Panuelo sees the option of recognizing Taiwan as providing “greatly added layers of security and protection that comes with our country distancing itself from the PRC, which has demonstrated a keen capacity to undermine our sovereignty, reject our values, and use our elected and senior officials for their purposes.

France Protests

by dulan drift ⌂, Wednesday, March 22, 2023, 17:57 (372 days ago) @ dan

This sounds like the GODS worst nightmare ...

News: (L)ast week, the fury stepped up a notch after the government resorted to Article 49.3 of the constitution to force the bill through parliament without a vote.

A bill to raise the retirement ages & increase years of social-security contributions in order to be paid the full-pension - not by much - but it's set something off with the French public.

There have been increasingly violent scenes emerging since then, with millions of protesters taking to the streets, lighting fires, blocking roads, throwing projectiles, barricading universities and causing power outages.

Major fuel shortages are also impacting service stations across the country due to protesters blocking major locations, with the biggest nationwide protest on record for France recorded this week, with rallies held in more than 200 separate areas.

There has also been widespread industrial action across scores of sectors, with tonnes of garbage piling up in the streets of Paris with the city’s garbage collectors striking since March 6 along with workers in the oil, gas, electricity, transport and education industries.

France has had some pretty good protests in its history, so biggest on record is note-worthy. When trust in government/the experts is broken, beyond repair, that's dangerous territory.

Was always the big risk with the Covid Lie - now those chickens might be coming home to roost ...

When/if a global dissent/revolution happens, it will be chaotic - a mish-mash of different disaffected groups - with their disaffection in common.

France Protests

by dan, Friday, March 24, 2023, 17:43 (370 days ago) @ dulan drift

When/if a global dissent/revolution happens, it will be chaotic - a mish-mash of different disaffected groups - with their disaffection in common.

Agreed. I think this protest in France is so successful, if you can call it that, because the disaffected are perhaps less divided than in places like the US, where the GODS have been very successful at pitting the poor and middle class against one another.

EDIT: ... successful at pitting factions of poor and factions of the middle class, OK, the middle class is dying, so pitting factions of the poor against each other. The worst nightmare of the GODS in the US is the poor realizing they're on the same side.

The GODS: WEF

by dan, Friday, February 03, 2023, 17:52 (419 days ago) @ dulan drift

At some point in this discussion of the GODS, before we moved towards an organizational model, we speculated on the number of individual GODS, and I think we settled on a number somewhere between 1,000 and 3,000. Interestingly, this podcast mentions that there are 2,700 billionaires in the world.

I think the organizational definition of the GODS is more meaningful, but this coincidence struck a chord.

The podcast is worth a listen: We need to talk about Davos

The GODS: WEF

by dulan drift ⌂, Sunday, February 05, 2023, 16:35 (418 days ago) @ dan

At some point in this discussion of the GODS, before we moved towards an organizational model, we speculated on the number of individual GODS, and I think we settled on a number somewhere between 1,000 and 3,000. Interestingly, this podcast mentions that there are 2,700 billionaires in the world.

I think the organizational definition of the GODS is more meaningful, but this coincidence struck a chord.

The podcast is worth a listen: We need to talk about Davos


For sure there are influential reps of Organizations. The football analogy is a good one - your Hall-of-Famers - which rank-up to your Immortals ...

But at the end of the day that never ends, they're only reps/embodiments of a group-think culture with built-in-Truman-Show limits of what's acceptable reality ... or not.

As a The Refuser book-club comment, i'd observe that Orgs are pro-types of The Algorithm ...?

Orgs = Culture

A larger force that exists/thinks as an over-riding collective-influence. Also crosses the magical death/after-life barrier with ease ...

There's a danger with thinking, it's The System - whaddya gonna do ...? Apart from decentralization, dismantling key human 1st-3rd-tierers on public-forums is a way to erode these false-premises within the realm of Culture. That's something Drastic's Billy-BO-sticks-on is strong on.

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